Fighter's whose hype you don't buy into and fighters you do.

If this is a buy-sell thing as in buy when low and sell high then

Buy: Lawler, Kongo, Gegard(young and still a relatively unknown here in the states, a good buying price yet a fertile field in strikeforce in which to grow), Nate Diaz(young, and coming off 2 losses is way undervalued, watch him whoop up on flo in the near future)

Sell: Shields, MTB, Fedor(why you ask? his stock can't get any higher, and I think that a loss might be due while Spider and Lyoto continue to role) GSP(if he dares to face Spider), Gina(im picking her to win, but considering her opponent and how high her stock is now im selling).

If Im buying a rising stock I still Buy: Lesnar, Grim, Nick Diaz, Rumble, Diego( a very risky stock considering he's in line to fight penn, but with a win, he balloons, an impressive loss keeps him stable)

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Don't -

1. Overeem - lost to everyone good he has ever faced. His best win in his entire career is Vitor Belfort who I also think is overrated.

2. Vitor - Terry Martin was blasted by Smith in seven seconds. Matt Lindland is a politician who is semi retired and hasn't looked good since he was robbed against Page years ago. Vitor loses to everyone good he fights too if they give him any fight, and he lost to Overeem too.

3. Jon Jones - This guy is good, but his defense is bad, O'Brien was really tagging him early in that fight. A more rounded kickboxer with decent wrestling chops would hurt his kid. Slow the train down.

4. Rumble - He looked great against bums like Spears, but he shows a lot of flaws in his game that shows me he isn't ready for the big time yet.

5. Dos Santos - Dangerous, but the lack of wrestling chops and a still developing BJJ game will hurt him against....



Do -


Carwin/Cain/Lesnar - Looks like wrestling will become the dominant style in the division for years to come. Strikers will be an after thought in this division.

Mousasi - He wins in a lot of different ways and appears to be the most well rounded guy rising outside the UFC. No reason not to believe in it.

Rogers - He is huge and has steamrolled everyone he has faced. Lack of wrestling experts in Strikeforce means even if his unknown groundgame is weak, it won't matter for a while.

Aoki - Yellow pants + improving striking skills = win.

Steve Cantwell - This dude will be top ten in the coming years for a lot of years.

Luiz Cane - This guy would knock Rampage, Franklin, Ortiz, Rua and Evans into the dead zone. His defense is ridiculous and he disguises what he throws fantastic. So much upside for this cat. Heart too.

LOL how classic is this?

lollllllllllllll.

I think someone hacked onto my account to make this post. I've never thought anything of Diego at all. Weird

On another note: how many pages did you have to read through to get to this lol

bobbitt15 wrote:

I think someone hacked onto my account to make this post. I've never thought anything of Diego at all. Weird

On another note: how many pages did you have to read through to get to this lol

It was one of the first pages lol, It kind of steam rolled this morning. I was bored and looking for an old "who wins" thread and I stumbled on this bad boy. Wolf's thoughts on Cane are the best lol
Cantwell is pretty funny looking back now too.

Funny stuff, I'm ok with my thoughts, Reem hadn't been facing anyone back then, Swick was a miss.

No shocker Wolf was off.

Farmer1906 wrote:

BUY BIG
-Aldo
-Mousasi
-Joe Warren

buy
-Diego giving BJ all he can handle and possibly taking the title
-The Polish Experiment
-Cane
-Kimbo being a decent guy, not fighter

sell
-Carwin ever being champ
-Rogers
-KenFlo

I was money on Aldo, semi right on Mousasi, and the jury is still on on Warren.

I was way off on Diego, Polish, Cane.

I was right so far on Carwin not winning the title. Right to sell Rogers and KenFlo too.

OU wrote:

Sell: Brock, Cain, Kenny, Shields

Buy: Diego, Nick Diaz, Jon Jones

I failed with Cain, Jake and Diego. The rest I'm good with.

Quote :

Don't -

1. Overeem - lost to everyone good he has ever faced. His best win in his entire career is Vitor Belfort who I also think is overrated.

2. Vitor - Terry Martin was blasted by Smith in seven seconds. Matt Lindland is a politician who is semi retired and hasn't looked good since he was robbed against Page years ago. Vitor loses to everyone good he fights too if they give him any fight, and he lost to Overeem too.

3. Jon Jones - This guy is good, but his defense is bad, O'Brien was really tagging him early in that fight. A more rounded kickboxer with decent wrestling chops would hurt his kid. Slow the train down.

4. Rumble - He looked great against bums like Spears, but he shows a lot of flaws in his game that shows me he isn't ready for the big time yet.

5. Dos Santos - Dangerous, but the lack of wrestling chops and a still developing BJJ game will hurt him against....



Do -


Carwin/Cain/Lesnar - Looks like wrestling will become the dominant style in the division for years to come. Strikers will be an after thought in this division.

Mousasi - He wins in a lot of different ways and appears to be the most well rounded guy rising outside the UFC. No reason not to believe in it.

Rogers - He is huge and has steamrolled everyone he has faced. Lack of wrestling experts in Strikeforce means even if his unknown groundgame is weak, it won't matter for a while.

Aoki - Yellow pants + improving striking skills = win.

Steve Cantwell - This dude will be top ten in the coming years for a lot of years.

Luiz Cane - This guy would knock Rampage, Franklin, Ortiz, Rua and Evans into the dead zone. His defense is ridiculous and he disguises what he throws fantastic. So much upside for this cat. Heart too.

Cantwell and Cain have literally declined as fighters since their battle. Big whiffs on those, for now at least.

My bad on JJ. Everything I said there was true but his improvement ratio was hard to predict. Like yall motherfuckers were calling him to smash Shogun to little pieces back then. Eat cock. Bowls of cock.

I recanted the Overeem thing a while ago. Back then he wasn't facing anyone. He still has a vulnerable chin and still hasn't fought a UFC/Pride/Fedor type schedule.

I have yet to see Dos Santos fight a wrestler I listed so we still can't say for certain what will come of that but at the time I was somewhat overrating Lesnar as a wrestler because his power double is less impressive than I thought and as yall know I've never liked him that much as a fighter.

Mousasi panned out to be a top level guy who is still improving. Aoki is legit as fuck on the ground. Carwin and Cain are still at the top of the heap HW wise.

Nothing I said about Vitor wasn't true. Anderson Silva front kicked his jaw off.

Bowls of slimey dicks, the lot of yous!

You're list ate bowls of cocks. It's OK, it's fun/funny looking back now. Plenty of people made picks they can laugh at now.

LA wrote:

Sell: Overreem, Vera, Rogers (as beating top guys with chins)

Buy: Aldo, Warren, Brock, Carwin, Cane, Swick, Rumble, Jones, Dos Santos, a lot of guys it's easier

Sold Reem but this was when he hadn't been facing anyone, he's also grown on me because he's actually one of the cooler guys in MMA

Cane still could be ok if he never faces a southpaw, miss though

Swick bad miss LOL

Back then no one thought Dos Santos would be able to hang with any of the other three. Most of my shit was consensus. BOWLS OF DICKS.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Back then no one thought Dos Santos would be able to hang with any of the other three. Most of my shit was consensus. BOWLS OF DICKS.

I did but it's me....

Damn I didnt get in on this thread? Shit I wanted to see how terrible I was.

I still think his ability to fight a real wrestler has to be questioned. Turns out HW doesn't have that many though. Lesnar = fraud. Carwin = old man with lactic acidosis and a bad back. Cain = no shoulder cartilage.

No doubt bro, that's the real question in this fight, but honestly just seeing JDS next to Brock is making me want to pick him. Never really thought he could beat Cain, Cain has striking to compete with the best and some of the best wrestling in the division or just MMA. Hope the shoulder doesn't plague his career, not sure how guys comeback from those injuries.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Back then no one thought Dos Santos would be able to hang with any of the other three. Most of my shit was consensus. BOWLS OF DICKS.

Doesn't make you any more right. Everyone got a few wrong. You just went into more detail then others making your list the funniest one to look bad on. But I'm sure Cantwell will shoot up the ranking anytime now and be there for years to come...

Steve has like two fights at the most since I made that post I think. Injuries have fucked him over entirely.

OU wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Back then no one thought Dos Santos would be able to hang with any of the other three. Most of my shit was consensus. BOWLS OF DICKS.

Doesn't make you any more right. Everyone got a few wrong. You just went into more detail then others making your list the funniest one to look bad on. But I'm sure Cantwell will shoot up the ranking anytime now and be there for years to come...

LMAO

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Steve has like two fights at the most since I made that post I think. Injuries have fucked him over entirely.

Hold on to the hope. Love the dedication. It's admirable.

OU sold Cain

LA wrote:

OU sold Cain

LOL, I was shocked looking back on that. Thought this thread was funny to look back on.

Nah great bump, I was just messin around, I sold Reem and now he's one of my favorite HWs, The Reem helped though.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Back then no one thought Dos Santos would be able to hang with any of the other three. Most of my shit was consensus. BOWLS OF DICKS.

Been calling JDS for a whiiiiile

LA wrote:

Nah great bump, I was just messin around, I sold Reem and now he's one of my favorite HWs, The Reem helped though.

This is a pretty early thread. It's a year and half old. Things have changed for sure.