Ultimate Fedor thread.

You also contradict yourself. I didn't twist anything, you twisted, or as you put it ' I just thought it would be more fair'. You can think it is more fair but it is an extrapolation away from my point to better satisfy yours.

GDPofDRC wrote:

I asked if you could prove my statement wrong, and justify the standards for which you hold Fedor by, you did neither. You say I'm wrong while being unable to demonstrate so.

Wow is what I have to say. It seems like anytime someone gets proved wrong about Fedor they try to switch it to something else???WTF is the deal??? Serious guys you have got to stop. Andrew or Ludo made a valid point yesterday and someone switches up to something else then it gets tossed away.

GPD why should I have to explain what standards I hold Fedor by when you say he fights as much as UFC champs and make it sound like he fights as much? Do you work for M-1 Global? I am serious man. I think you have been hired by them to cruise around MMA boards to hold up Fedor and his image. You get proved wrong and switch up to something else. I am not the smartest guy so maybe I am missing something here, but this is laughable right now. I apologize if I am not getting what you mean, but I don't understand you, nor do I see why you are asking when we were just talking about how many times they all fought. I will admit if I am wrong. Someone besides GDP help us out here.

You have said I am wrong many times but I'm waiting for the part where you prove me wrong? You shouldn't have to explain you what your standards are, I only asked if you would.

This particular stanza started with me looking at the past year referencing march since this is march. You asked me to look another year back. When I did you retracted away from the original premise and said you were talking about more then two years back to a date that happened to be one day after a fight on Fedor's Record. None of the statements I have made in any of this been inaccurate or false.

GDPofDRC wrote:

You also contradict yourself. I didn't twist anything, you twisted, or as you put it ' I just thought it would be more fair'. You can think it is more fair but it is an extrapolation away from my point to better satisfy yours.

I can see why you say that, but at the same time your OP about what we were talking about wasn't fair to the UFC fighters so I made it more fair for all parties instead of better for UFC and not just Fedor like you did. You keep it up and M-1 is gonna fire you man. I would just drop it, lol. I mean honestly it is almost the same as saying "Fedor fought more fights in his career than the UFC champs!" That isn't a fair assesment GDP. There is nothing wrong when making an arguement more fair. That doesn't mean I am twisting anything. Besides we were talking about two years after you accepted the argument.

GDPofDRC wrote:

This particular stanza started with me looking at the past year referencing march since this is march. You asked me to look another year back. When I did you retracted away from the original premise and said you were talking about more then two years back to a date that happened to be one day after a fight on Fedor's Record. None of the statements I have made in any of this been inaccurate or false.

That is not how it went down. You know people can see what we posted don't you? I threw out the two year challenge and you accepted period. I see what you mean in the March to march thing. I just thought it would be more fair to take the past two years since Fedor arrived in the US.

Tell you what let's do it both ways. I will go from March to March. That will be more fair to you and I see what you are saying.

Lesnar fought once and required surgery or it would have been twice.
Machida fought twice
Anderson Silva fought twice
GSP fought once and has another fight with Hardy in March
BJ fought twice


FEDOR FOUGHT ONCE AND WON'T FIGHT UNTIL JULY---This is speculation because no fight has been announced!

Now if we go to July to give Fedor another fight then we would add a few for some of the UFC champs.

Fedor didn't take another fight after barnett and could have found another opponent and help off for a few months to reshedule and that didn't happen.

Now what is your point?

How is looking one year back unfair to any body? Or looking two years back? If anything the alteration to the parameters of my argument were biased against Fedor since they would begin 4 hours after a fight of his. "Fedor fought more fights in his career than the UFC champs"?? I don't know what you were hoping to accomplish with that. No where in any of today's conversion has anything remotely similar to this been stated by me.

March was what I said in my first post in this thread today. I did the same in looking back the past two years. That is why I said you ignored my point and built your own more favorable comparison.

GDPofDRC wrote:

How is looking one year back unfair to any body? Or looking two years back? If anything the alteration to the parameters of my argument were biased against Fedor since they would begin 4 hours after a fight of his. "Fedor fought more fights in his career than the UFC champs"?? I don't know what you were hoping to accomplish with that. No where in any of today's conversion has anything remotely similar to this been stated by me.

Okay well either way I did what you meant and you are still wrong. I can't wait for what you come up with next. Now you are trying to turn what I said way after what you first meant out there to pull others eyes away from what you first meant. You are wrong in every way GDP. Sorry I won this time buddy.

GDPofDRC wrote:

March was what I said in my first post in this thread today. I did the same in looking back the past two years. That is why I said you ignored my point and built your own more favorable comparison.

Okay and I just did March to March like you said and the same thing GDP. You were wrong to say the UFC champs were inactive as much as Fedor. That is why I challeged that originally. What can you come up with next?

GDPofDRC wrote:

In the past one year or two years Fedor has fought precisely one less or equal amounts of time then all of the UFC champions.

Lesnar fought once and required surgery or it would have been twice.
Machida fought twice
Anderson Silva fought twice
GSP fought once and has another fight with Hardy in March
BJ fought twice


FEDOR FOUGHT ONCE AND WON'T FIGHT UNTIL JULY---This is speculation because no fight has been announced![/quote]

So...... you just rehashed half of the point I presented which you before said I was wrong about.

March to March or two years, Your way and my way= You are wrong GDP. Like I said facts are facts.

GDPofDRC wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

In the past one year or two years Fedor has fought precisely one less or equal amounts of time then all of the UFC champions.

Lesnar fought once and required surgery or it would have been twice.
Machida fought twice
Anderson Silva fought twice
GSP fought once and has another fight with Hardy in March
BJ fought twice


FEDOR FOUGHT ONCE AND WON'T FIGHT UNTIL JULY---This is speculation because no fight has been announced!

So...... you just rehashed half of the point I presented which you before said I was wrong about.[/quote]



Yeah that was the whole point wasn't it. This all started because YOU/GDPofDRC said the UFC champs haven't been as active as Fedor or the same as Fedor. So I challenged you and laid the facts out for you to see. What don't you get man? Serious dude you are a stubborn person.

My first post of the day in this thread

GDPofDRC wrote:

I would like to see Fedor fight more also as well as UFC champs. Brock and GSP have each fought only 1 fight in the past 12 months, same as Fedor. BJ, Machida, and Anderson have fought twice each since last March. There have been a lot of injuries and ailments scattered among them, broken nose / busted hand for the defendant in question. The only Champ overall who I am sufficiently satisfied with their eagerness to get back in action quickly is BJ, who has also been lucky enough to stay relatively healthy. He is usually calling someone out quick after he defends the LW title, but even with that it seems like his fights don't materialize that fast. But shit happens. Fedor was closes to having a second fight to add to his past 12 month resume. Barnett ruined that scenario, not Fedor.

12 months, last march. Translation 1 year.

GDPofDRC wrote:

In the past one year or two years Fedor has fought precisely one less or equal amounts of times then all of the UFC champions.

12 months, last march translation 1 year

BJ 2
GSP 1
Silva 2
Machida 2
Brock 1
Fedor 1

24 months, two March's ago translation 2 years

BJ 4
GSP 4
Silva 4
Machida 4
Brock 3
Fedor 3

?????

No games, nothing twisted, just exactly the numbers. Wrong according to you.

Someone else help this guy understand he started it and I simply laid out facts to show him why he is wrong. He is playing opossum now.

GDPofDRC wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

In the past one year or two years Fedor has fought precisely one less or equal amounts of times then all of the UFC champions.

1 year

BJ 2
GSP 1
Silva 2
Machida 1
Brock 1
Fedor 1

2 years

BJ 4
GSP 4
Silva 4
Machida 4
Brock 3
Fedor 3

?????

OMG NOW YOU ARE GOING THERE? You just said what you meant was March to March in the first place. You are now taking any month from when Fedor fought the most is all. You are something else GDP.

GDPofDRC wrote:

This particular stanza started with me looking at the past year referencing march since this is march. You asked me to look another year back. When I did you retracted away from the original premise and said you were talking about more then two years back to a date that happened to be one day after a fight on Fedor's Record. None of the statements I have made in any of this been inaccurate or false.

Okay this is your own words. Look above ^^^^^^ You said what you meant was March to March, so I did that for you now you are showing some fake numbers with no dates and It wouldn't be fair anyways to all fighters because they all don't fight in the same month.

GDP YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!!

I am done with this convo now GDP. I don't see any other reason to comment. Clearly you are wrong and you will try to play games to save face.

My first post of the day in this thread

GDPofDRC wrote:
I would like to see Fedor fight more also as well as UFC champs. Brock and GSP have each fought only 1 fight in the past 12 months, same as Fedor. BJ, Machida, and Anderson have fought twice each since last March. There have been a lot of injuries and ailments scattered among them, broken nose / busted hand for the defendant in question. The only Champ overall who I am sufficiently satisfied with their eagerness to get back in action quickly is BJ, who has also been lucky enough to stay relatively healthy. He is usually calling someone out quick after he defends the LW title, but even with that it seems like his fights don't materialize that fast. But shit happens. Fedor was closes to having a second fight to add to his past 12 month resume. Barnett ruined that scenario, not Fedor.


12 months, last march. Translation 1 year.

GDPofDRC wrote:
In the past one year or two years Fedor has fought precisely one less or equal amounts of times then all of the UFC champions.


12 months, last march translation 1 year

BJ 2
GSP 1
Silva 2
Machida 2
Brock 1
Fedor 1

24 months, two March's ago translation 2 years

BJ 4
GSP 4
Silva 4
Machida 4
Brock 3
Fedor 3

?????

No games, nothing twisted, just exactly the numbers. Wrong according to you.

GDPofDRC wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

That is why I said if, so I wasn't speculating dude. I can count the Dec fights but you would have to count the UFC champs fights also because they were on the 27th you know.


Bottom line is Fedor has not fought more than any UFC champion like you said or just as nuch and I have been more than fair to Fedor with what we are talking about. I think both of us can agree we just want to see him fight more?

Fedor's fight frequency has more or less been consistent with the other UFC champs the past couple of years and especially recently. He did fight only four months ago. Anderson, GSP, and Brock haven't fought since last summer with GSP and Anderson only now bout to get back into it. We are looking at three champions who's schedule confirms 8 or 9 month layoffs and Brock's return is loose and unconfirmed and will be longer. I'm just not seeing how Fedor's perceived lack of activity should carry more significance then others. The activity has been lacking across the board.

Here is what started all this since I DID NOT START IT AND GDP DID! NOTICE GDP HAS QOUTED ME AND THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS!! So to be fair read on from here. I never even commented on your first post which you are trying to sway peoples eyes away from to save face. I DIDN'T EVEN READ NOR DID I COMMENT.

GDPofDRC wrote:

My first post of the day in this thread

GDPofDRC wrote:
I would like to see Fedor fight more also as well as UFC champs. Brock and GSP have each fought only 1 fight in the past 12 months, same as Fedor. BJ, Machida, and Anderson have fought twice each since last March. There have been a lot of injuries and ailments scattered among them, broken nose / busted hand for the defendant in question. The only Champ overall who I am sufficiently satisfied with their eagerness to get back in action quickly is BJ, who has also been lucky enough to stay relatively healthy. He is usually calling someone out quick after he defends the LW title, but even with that it seems like his fights don't materialize that fast. But shit happens. Fedor was closes to having a second fight to add to his past 12 month resume. Barnett ruined that scenario, not Fedor.


12 months, last march. Translation 1 year.

GDPofDRC wrote:
In the past one year or two years Fedor has fought precisely one less or equal amounts of times then all of the UFC champions.


12 months, last march translation 1 year

BJ 2
GSP 1
Silva 2
Machida 2
Brock 1
Fedor 1

24 months, two March's ago translation 2 years

BJ 4
GSP 4
Silva 4
Machida 4
Brock 3
Fedor 3

?????

No games, nothing twisted, just exactly the numbers. Wrong according to you.

Nice try GDP. You know darn well this all started when you qouted me. Then the argument went on from there. Now you are puling an older post in which we weren't even talking about. I couldprobably tear that apart too. This is the fourth time I have done something different to try and please what you are saying and now you are coming up with another post. You are a messed up dude if don't see what you are doing here? I think people like you are what ruined Detroit. "No boss I said this and not that!"

GDPofDRC wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

That is why I said if, so I wasn't speculating dude. I can count the Dec fights but you would have to count the UFC champs fights also because they were on the 27th you know.


Bottom line is Fedor has not fought more than any UFC champion like you said or just as nuch and I have been more than fair to Fedor with what we are talking about. I think both of us can agree we just want to see him fight more?

(Fedor's fight frequency has more or less been consistent with the other UFC champs the past couple of years and especially recently.) He did fight only four months ago. Anderson, GSP, and Brock haven't fought since last summer with GSP and Anderson only now bout to get back into it. We are looking at three champions who's schedule confirms 8 or 9 month layoffs and Brock's return is loose and unconfirmed and will be longer. I'm just not seeing how Fedor's perceived lack of activity should carry more significance then others. The activity has been lacking across the board.

I mean read it GDP! Look at what you said when you started it with me earlier