Ultimate Fedor thread.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

What statements are flip flops?

OMG Wolf serious? What I said above. I am done with the Fedor thing. I feel like I am bashing a loved one anyways. I just want the guy to fight already and he is contradicting Fedor of the past.

I would like to see Fedor fight more also as well as UFC champs. Brock and GSP have each fought only 1 fight in the past 12 months, same as Fedor. BJ, Machida, and Anderson have fought twice each since last March. There have been a lot of injuries and ailments scattered among them, broken nose / busted hand for the defendant in question. The only Champ overall who I am sufficiently satisfied with their eagerness to get back in action quickly is BJ, who has also been lucky enough to stay relatively healthy. He is usually calling someone out quick after he defends the LW title, but even with that it seems like his fights don't materialize that fast. But shit happens. Fedor was closes to having a second fight to add to his past 12 month resume. Barnett ruined that scenario, not Fedor.

GDPofDRC wrote:

I would like to see Fedor fight more also as well as UFC champs. Brock and GSP have each fought only 1 fight in the past 12 months, same as Fedor. BJ, Machida, and Anderson have fought twice each since last March. There have been a lot of injuries and ailments scattered among them, broken nose / busted hand for the defendant in question. The only Champ overall who I am sufficiently satisfied with their eagerness to get back in action quickly is BJ, who has also been lucky enough to stay relatively healthy. He is usually calling someone out quick after he defends the LW title, but even with that it seems like his fights don't materialize that fast. But shit happens. Fedor was closes to having a second fight to add to his past 12 month resume. Barnett ruined that scenario, not Fedor.

Good point, but look at all the champs and see how many fights they have all had in the past two years. I bet Fedor is dead last.



Above is where I threw out the challenge and you accepted it homie. Then you can read down from there. I know what you said was based on a year before this discussion was brought up by me. With all do respect you would still be wrong there. Now you are trying to twist this and blame me for ignoring your post. I didn't ignore it at all. I just thought it would be more fair to compare the past few years since Fedor arrived over here with Affliction and SF since you were talking bout UFC champs being as inactive. You are reaching too much my man. Bringing Barnett into the equation when I was already counting a fight for Fedor when an opponent has NOT been named yet while the UFC champs have one on the books. Brock missed a fight for surgery too. Fedor could have replaced an opponent instead of taking more time off too. That is on him for real. You are wrong man. Plain and simple. You are right alot GDP and make alot of good posts, but it is okay to admit being wrong at times instead of twisting things and placing blame on who you rae discussing things with. That is just like Wolf does dude. We are all human here and can't always be right.

They all have 4 except for the 2 HW's who both have 3.

From 2008 to July of 2010
Fedor has 4 counting his next fight
Anderson has 6 has counting his next fight
GSP has 5 including his next fight
BJ has 6 including his next fight
Machida has 5 counting his next fight
Brock will have 5 including his next fight and he had surgery and had to back out of one. He would be at 6 by July if it wasn't for that.

GDPofDRC wrote:

They all have 4 except for the 2 HW's who both have 3.

Nope I just checked. Take all of the fights they had from 2008 to July when Fedor is fighting next since we are basing it off of him. They all have fought more than Fedor. Brock had surgery too. or he would be at 6 instead of 5 coming up in July. Face it the UFC guys have all fought a bit more.

im talking about 2 years ago today

GDPofDRC wrote:

im talking about 2 years ago today

I see what you mean, but the more fair way to look at it is to base it off of Fedors fights from 2008 up until july since that is what we were talking about. Either way they have all fought 1 or 2 more fights than Fedor even if we went by what you are saying.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

im talking about 2 years ago today

I see what you mean, but the more fair way to look at it is to base it off of Fedors fights from 2008 up until july since that is what we were talking about. Either way they have all fought 1 or 2 more fights than Fedor.

If I was going to look at it like that I would count Dec 31st of 2007. And they will have until he fights when It would be none or one more.

And Brock had surgey too let's keep that in mind. He would have had another fight by September at the latest if the Diverticulitus surgey never happened.

Brock had surgery Fedor had Barnett. They all would of fought but shit happens.

GDPofDRC wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

im talking about 2 years ago today

I see what you mean, but the more fair way to look at it is to base it off of Fedors fights from 2008 up until july since that is what we were talking about. Either way they have all fought 1 or 2 more fights than Fedor.

If I was going to look at it like that I would count Dec 31st of 2007

Not really. If that is the case he still hasn't fought as much because you would add another fight for 3 of the UFC champs also. Fedor hasn't fought as much if you count December of 2007. Besides you want to count the freak show with HMC? Funny I watched that earlier today.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Brock had surgery Fedor had Barnett. They all would of fought but shit happens.

Yeah but Fedor wouldn't be fighting in July more than likely if he did fight Barnett so we couldn't count his July fight I am counting against an unknown fighter right now? I am giving Fedor the benefit of doubt here GDP. Keep that in mind. Either way he has fought one or two less. Fact are facts dude.

Just saying in by those terms I wouldn't exclude a fight, regardless of it significance, because of four hours.

You can't speculate on when Fedor would be fighting if he and Barnett fought. The landscape of MMA would be totally different then what exists now.

That is why I said if, so I wasn't speculating dude. I can count the Dec fights but you would have to count the UFC champs fights also because they were on the 27th you know.


Bottom line is Fedor has not fought more than any UFC champion like you said or just as nuch and I have been more than fair to Fedor with what we are talking about. I think both of us can agree we just want to see him fight more?

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Kudos my man! This is well deserved of the baddest man on the planet who is sneaky like a fox as of late. I should be the OP though, lol.

He would be better off as part owner of Haagen Daas than M-1

LudoCain wrote:

He would be better off as part owner of Haagen Daas than M-1

I am still mad about them discontinuing Bananas Foster ice cream. That was the best!

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

That is why I said if, so I wasn't speculating dude. I can count the Dec fights but you would have to count the UFC champs fights also because they were on the 27th you know.


Bottom line is Fedor has not fought more than any UFC champion like you said or just as nuch and I have been more than fair to Fedor with what we are talking about. I think both of us can agree we just want to see him fight more?

Fedor's fight frequency has more or less been consistent with the other UFC champs the past couple of years and especially recently. He did fight only four months ago. Anderson, GSP, and Brock haven't fought since last summer with GSP and Anderson only now bout to get back into it. We are looking at three champions who's schedule confirms 8 or 9 month layoffs and Brock's return is loose and unconfirmed and will be longer. I'm just not seeing how Fedor's perceived lack of activity should carry more significance then others. The activity has been lacking across the board.

GDPofDRC wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

That is why I said if, so I wasn't speculating dude. I can count the Dec fights but you would have to count the UFC champs fights also because they were on the 27th you know.


Bottom line is Fedor has not fought more than any UFC champion like you said or just as nuch and I have been more than fair to Fedor with what we are talking about. I think both of us can agree we just want to see him fight more?

Fedor's fight frequency has more or less been consistent with the other UFC champs the past couple of years and especially recently. He did fight only four months ago. Anderson, GSP, and Brock haven't fought since last summer with GSP and Anderson only now bout to get back into it. We are looking at three champions who's schedule confirms 8 or 9 month layoffs and Brock's return is loose and unconfirmed and will be longer. I'm just not seeing how Fedor's perceived lack of activity should carry more significance then others. The activity has been lacking across the board.

Yeah it has been consistently 1-2 fights behind the UFC champs across the board. I admit when I am wrong and I have been alot over the years. Why is it so hard for some of you guys? Facts are here and Fedor has fought less as of the past few years, which is what we are talking about. All you need is some mean curse words right now GDP because you are being stubborn like Wolf. Let's move on for real and talk about something else like how awesome the Fedor RVCA shirt is that I refuse to by until he gets his act together. Any takers want to talk me into buying it?

You basically ignore what I said before, go back and twist my reckoning of it to every fight after Fedor's last from over two years ago to skew the perspective against Fedor. In the past one year or two years Fedor has fought precisely one less or equal amounts of time then all of the UFC champions. Since you are so keen on what is fact, prove that wrong. And I am still interested about the reasons for which standards for Fedor deserve to be higher then the others.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

I would like to see Fedor fight more also as well as UFC champs. Brock and GSP have each fought only 1 fight in the past 12 months, same as Fedor. BJ, Machida, and Anderson have fought twice each since last March. There have been a lot of injuries and ailments scattered among them, broken nose / busted hand for the defendant in question. The only Champ overall who I am sufficiently satisfied with their eagerness to get back in action quickly is BJ, who has also been lucky enough to stay relatively healthy. He is usually calling someone out quick after he defends the LW title, but even with that it seems like his fights don't materialize that fast. But shit happens. Fedor was closes to having a second fight to add to his past 12 month resume. Barnett ruined that scenario, not Fedor.

Good point, but look at all the champs and see how many fights they have all had in the past two years. I bet Fedor is dead last.



Above is where I threw out the challenge and you accepted it homie. Then you can read down from there. I know what you said was based on a year before this discussion was brought up by me. With all do respect you would still be wrong there. Now you are trying to twist this and blame me for ignoring your post. I didn't ignore it at all. I just thought it would be more fair to compare the past few years since Fedor arrived over here with Affliction and SF since you were talking bout UFC champs being as inactive. You are reaching too much my man. Bringing Barnett into the equation when I was already counting a fight for Fedor when an opponent has NOT been named yet while the UFC champs have one on the books. Brock missed a fight for surgery too. Fedor could have replaced an opponent instead of taking more time off too. That is on him for real. You are wrong man. Plain and simple. You are right alot GDP and make alot of good posts, but it is okay to admit being wrong at times instead of twisting things and placing blame on who you rae discussing things with. That is just like Wolf does dude. We are all human here and can't always be right.

Oops I edited instead of qouting! I didn't even realize it? See I told you I was wrong. It is easy and doesn't make me feel any worse because I am human and I can make a mistake from time to time!

I asked if you could prove my statement wrong, and justify the standards for which you hold Fedor by, you did neither. You say I'm wrong while not demonstrating how so.