Couture wants 1st shot at Toney

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Randy will beat his ass! I hope this happens and Toney fights Kimbo next. Pleasw DW and Joe Silva make it happen!

Randy please don't try and box with Toney, not for 2 seconds.

This is what I hoped for. Randy has to just shoot right away, and it's over.

Im not interrested.

RETIRE RANDY!

Sorry for the outburst, I guess im just sick of watching him try to lay and pray or press people on the cage for a whole fight every time.

boomer sooner wrote:

This is what I hoped for. Randy has to just shoot right away, and it's over.

yep

NoRegret wrote:

Im not interrested.

RETIRE RANDY!

Sorry for the outburst, I guess im just sick of watching him try to lay and pray or press people on the cage for a whole fight every time.

Agreed

NoRegret wrote:

Im not interrested.

RETIRE RANDY!

Sorry for the outburst, I guess im just sick of watching him try to lay and pray or press people on the cage for a whole fight every time.

Yeah, they call that "tactics" and it seems to be working out quite well. If he can't dominate you, then he holds you down, plays some defense, throw in some dirty boxing to score points, go for the decision. 5 time UFC Champion NR. Show some respect.

If Coleman landed a punch that hurt Couture...

Mike Chiapetta speculates on possible opponents:

Chuck Liddell (3:1) - Liddell seems like the best fit for Toney's debut. Though the UFC has money invested in the last fight of Liddell's trilogy with Tito Ortiz, they may switch plans if they can make more with Liddell-Toney, which seems quite possible. Also, both Liddell and Toney have few fights left in their careers; why not pair them against each other?

Randy Couture (4:1) - Amazingly enough, this fight was talked about once, years ago. Couture only wants big fights, and a Couture-Toney fight would get massive media exposure.

Kimbo Slice (6:1) - Slice has an May date against Matt Mitrione, but after making his name as a backyard brawler, it would be interesting to see him against a star boxer, even if it is in an MMA cage rather than a boxing ring. Because Slice isn't thought of as a future champion, there would be little risk to his reputation in such a matchup as well. The fight would be a win-win proposition.

The Shane Carwin-Frank Mir UFC 111 loser (8:1) - This may seem a bit more far-fetched than most as Toney isn't really ready for a huge hitter who can take him to the ground, but he's said he'll face anyone, and this could be a way for Dana White to prove MMA's superiority over boxing as a combat sport.

Anderson Silva (12:1) - A darkhorse, but maybe more possible than we might imagine. Silva's always wanted to box Roy Jones; maybe Toney would help him quell his desire to face a boxer. He is big enough to fight Toney even at heavyweight, and he may campaign for the opportunity. The "Boxing Champ vs. MMA Champ" storyline is also an easy one to sell.

Rampage Jackson (15:1) - Jackson has said he may be done with the UFC after fighting Rashad Evans at UFC 114, but perhaps a chance at a big payday against Toney might lure him back into the fold.

Farmer1906 wrote:

Mike Chiapetta speculates on possible opponents:

Chuck Liddell (3:1) - Liddell seems like the best fit for Toney's debut. Though the UFC has money invested in the last fight of Liddell's trilogy with Tito Ortiz, they may switch plans if they can make more with Liddell-Toney, which seems quite possible. Also, both Liddell and Toney have few fights left in their careers; why not pair them against each other?

Randy Couture (4:1) - Amazingly enough, this fight was talked about once, years ago. Couture only wants big fights, and a Couture-Toney fight would get massive media exposure.

Kimbo Slice (6:1) - Slice has an May date against Matt Mitrione, but after making his name as a backyard brawler, it would be interesting to see him against a star boxer, even if it is in an MMA cage rather than a boxing ring. Because Slice isn't thought of as a future champion, there would be little risk to his reputation in such a matchup as well. The fight would be a win-win proposition.

The Shane Carwin-Frank Mir UFC 111 loser (8:1) - This may seem a bit more far-fetched than most as Toney isn't really ready for a huge hitter who can take him to the ground, but he's said he'll face anyone, and this could be a way for Dana White to prove MMA's superiority over boxing as a combat sport.

Anderson Silva (12:1) - A darkhorse, but maybe more possible than we might imagine. Silva's always wanted to box Roy Jones; maybe Toney would help him quell his desire to face a boxer. He is big enough to fight Toney even at heavyweight, and he may campaign for the opportunity. The "Boxing Champ vs. MMA Champ" storyline is also an easy one to sell.

Rampage Jackson (15:1) - Jackson has said he may be done with the UFC after fighting Rashad Evans at UFC 114, but perhaps a chance at a big payday against Toney might lure him back into the fold.

Toney gets destroyed by all these guys. But I could see him dropping Kimbo. What about Brian Stann or Tim Bostech? Those could be marginally competitive maybe.

I think the win win fight is definitely Kimbo. Regardless of the winner, MMA doesn't come out looking bad in a MMA/boxing comparison.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

If Coleman landed a punch that hurt Couture...

scary isn't it. Randy would try to box him I bet. This would be bad for MMA fans.

Why are people so worried about the comparison of the 2 sports? Boxing is OK, but I think MMA is superior in every way, so that is what I watch. If Toney has something to bring to the MMA table, he will bring it. If he doesn't he will get thrown out of the cage on his kiester.

That would be bad for Randy and Randy fans. No need to keep speaking for all MMA here.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Why are people so worried about the comparison of the 2 sports? Boxing is OK, but I think MMA is superior in every way, so that is what I watch. If Toney has something to bring to the MMA table, he will bring it. If he doesn't he will get thrown out of the cage on his kiester.

I agree. pugilism is a martial art, albeit a dynamically limited one, a partial art if you will. Toney's best weapon is obviously his punch. If he beats a guy that's how it goes. It's a fight. You don't hear many people knocking a guy after he wins in an mma fight because he only beat a guy with punches.

Long heated battle from Boxing fans and MMA fans. Not to mention the old timers at ESPN that hate MMA. They would have a field day on MMA if Toney beat Randy. That is a fact. What would guys like Kornheiser say, or Grantzilla. I don't mean all boxing fans, but there are alot of them that would never let it go if it happened. That is my worries about one of those fights.

If you value the opinion of 70 year old sports writers or ESPN boxing boarders then I could see why that would scare you. A lot of people could care less. A couple of forty year old former champs are not a barometer for comparison to people who know better.

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GDPofDRC wrote:

If you value the opinion of 70 year old sports writers or ESPN boxing boarders then I could see why that would scare you. lot of people could care less. A couple of forty year old former champs are not a barometer for comparison to people who know better.

yeah those 70 year old sportswriters and PTI fuckheads have a lot of influence among the public .. but you are right who cares.

You guys realize Randy could to knocked out here.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

NoRegret wrote:

Im not interrested.

RETIRE RANDY!

Sorry for the outburst, I guess im just sick of watching him try to lay and pray or press people on the cage for a whole fight every time.

Yeah, they call that "tactics" and it seems to be working out quite well. If he can't dominate you, then he holds you down, plays some defense, throw in some dirty boxing to score points, go for the decision. 5 time UFC Champion NR. Show some respect.

Nobody is denying the fact that they are tactics. Im saying its fucking boring as fuck and stupid to watch and is a waste of time and money.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

You guys realize Randy could to knocked out here.

Very unlikely. All Randy has to do is grab Toney and its all over. He could GnP an easy win or eventually choke him out. Randy isn't going to stand and trade. He knows he's too slow for that now after what Brock & Nog did to him,