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| Best Cesar Gracie fighter | | Shields | | 33% | [ 5 ] | | Nick Diaz | | 47% | [ 7 ] | | Nate Diaz | | 0% | [ 0 ] | | Gilbert Melendez | | 20% | [ 3 ] |
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| | Subject: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:50 pm | |
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:51 pm | |
| should I have added Jose? | |
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:53 pm | |
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:54 pm | |
| Gilbert, but you should have added Canseco. He is an animal in the octagon. He ran like a gazelle against HMC. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:59 pm | |
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:28 am | |
| Sheilds considering he would beat Diaz at 170 or 185.
Sheilds
Nick
Gilbert
Nate.
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:28 am | |
| See I think it'd be the other way around | |
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:34 am | |
| - tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- See I think it'd be the other way around
Why is that? The Diaz bros. have always been susceptible to getting taken down by good wrestlers and decisioned. Thats Jake's forte. Nick has an active guard, but its nothing Jake can't deal with.
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:39 am | |
| Shields
Nick
Gil
Nate
Terrell
Heath
Douglas
Cesar | |
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:45 am | |
| - KingsOwn19 wrote:
- Shields
Nick
Gil
Nate
Terrell
Heath
Douglas
Cesar I thought the Douglas bros. split with Cesar. I could be wrong though. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:01 am | |
| - Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:
- tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- See I think it'd be the other way around
Why is that? The Diaz bros. have always been susceptible to getting taken down by good wrestlers and decisioned. That's Jake's forte. Nick has an active guard, but its nothing Jake can't deal with. This is my argument against Nick and top WWs like Fitch, Kos ect If I've seen anything from Sheilds lately, stylistically a fighter like Nick could beat him. Sheilds probably wouldn't sub Nick, so it'd be a HnP affair like against Mayhem. This fight is a wash in bjj, with a huge advantage striking for Diaz and a wrestling/HnP advantage for Sheilds. I'll concede that Sheilds could win a decision, but I'd say Nick has the better chance at finishing the fight. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:26 am | |
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:05 am | |
| - tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:
- tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- See I think it'd be the other way around
Why is that? The Diaz bros. have always been susceptible to getting taken down by good wrestlers and decisioned. That's Jake's forte. Nick has an active guard, but its nothing Jake can't deal with.
This is my argument against Nick and top WWs like Fitch, Kos ect
If I've seen anything from Sheilds lately, stylistically a fighter like Nick could beat him. Sheilds probably wouldn't sub Nick, so it'd be a HnP affair like against Mayhem. This fight is a wash in bjj, with a huge advantage striking for Diaz and a wrestling/HnP advantage for Sheilds. I'll concede that Sheilds could win a decision, but I'd say Nick has the better chance at finishing the fight. +1 Well said | |
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:52 am | |
| in terms of the Shields Nick debate, we see that the guys excell in 2 of the 3 major categories, Jake in Wrestling and JJ, Nick in JJ and striking, but for each that 3rd category is considered a weakness.
And that factored into my pick for gilbert, he doesn't have that exploitable weakness that the other two have, true he may not excell in any of the 3 the way the others do, but the other 2 can look often vulnerable in certain situations. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Best Cesar Gracie Fighter? Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:54 am | |
| I think Nick would rape Jake if they ever fought. But then again I see Jake as one of the most overrated fighters in MMA. | |
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