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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 31, 2010 5:37 pm

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woah bird your out of control melvin was on the ground from the first punch motionless and took a left once there. the first one lost him the fight the next one just for show

No no no, Im not disagreeing with that, Im saying those extra 2 are the ones that left him looking fucked up, I think without a doubt that first punch is what did the job, but I dont think he is lying on the ground 5+minutes afterwards and getting taken out of the cage before official decision is announced if those follow up shots dont happen


Those are the type of knock outs that do add some milage on a guys chin.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 31, 2010 5:41 pm

watching replay in my opinon it was that left hand while Manhoeff was on the ground that put him in a scary place
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 31, 2010 6:44 pm

yeah bird the right dropped him the left hook while on the ground nearly took his jaw off.

the left as manhoeff was falling did not connect
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 31, 2010 6:45 pm

Cu Bua wrote:
yeah bird the right dropped him the left hook while on the ground nearly took his jaw off.

the left as manhoeff was falling did not connect

ya I know, that first shot that made him doo the hokey pokey before falling was great and would have ended the fight either way
but that left that landed while he was on his back was what had EMT in the ring IMO

either way , if manhoef is ok, then man that was fun wasnt it
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 31, 2010 11:13 pm

Having a weak chin and no ground game won't get you far in MMA. Melvin should stick to K1.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 31, 2010 11:15 pm

I don't know that Melvin has a weak chin. There have been other fights where he has taken a lot of punishment.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 31, 2010 11:28 pm

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I don't know that Melvin has a weak chin. There have been other fights where he has taken a lot of punishment.

He is have been knocked out numerous times in his K1 career.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 01, 2010 12:13 am

so still no word on him?
guess tahts a good sign
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 01, 2010 12:40 am

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:
Having a weak chin and no ground game won't get you far in MMA. Melvin should stick to K1.

Why is it that guys have a weak chin when they get knocked out? That was a knockout punch and he got hit again after he hit the ground. Robbie Lawler has one punch KO power...and that was a KO punch. Melvin does not have a "weak chin". That's only the second time he's been knocked out in his MMA career.

Alot of guys get knocked out in K-1 because motherfuckers hit hard. The best way to avoid getting knocked out is to not get hit with big punches right to the face like Manhoef did last night.

the whole "strength of chin" shit is overrated. Sure, some guys like Nog can take a lot of shots but it does not mean those who take a fucking uncontested brick to the face and don't get up have "weak" chins.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 01, 2010 11:34 am

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:
Having a weak chin and no ground game won't get you far in MMA. Melvin should stick to K1.
With a 24-7 MMA record 23 wins by KO I'd say its got him pretty far.


There is no shame getting knocked out by Lawler who has knocked out 14 of his 17 wins and has always been known for his power. All his training partners used to talk about how they even hated to spar with him.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 01, 2010 2:02 pm

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All his training partners used to talk about how they even hated to spar with him.

Great point.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 01, 2010 4:25 pm

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Having a weak chin and no ground game won't get you far in MMA. Melvin should stick to K1.
Why is it that guys have a weak chin when they get knocked out? That was a knockout punch and he got hit again after he hit the ground. Robbie Lawler has one punch KO power...and that was a KO punch. Melvin does not have a "weak chin". That's only the second time he's been knocked out in his MMA career.

Alot of guys get knocked out in K-1 because motherfuckers hit hard. The best way to avoid getting knocked out is to not get hit with big punches right to the face like Manhoef did last night.

the whole "strength of chin" shit is overrated. Sure, some guys like Nog can take a lot of shots but it does not mean those who take a fucking uncontested brick to the face and don't get up have "weak" chins.

Please....ask any one who real follows K1 and they will tell you he has a weak chin. Watch his fight with Keijiro Maeda or some of his earlier fights. He gets knocked out by some very weak punches. Most K1 fighters don't get knocked out cold like Melvin does every time he takes a jab.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 01, 2010 4:31 pm

That second shot caught him right below the ear under the jaw is the one that really put him out. Luck had a lot to do with that first overhand that stunned him. Robbie was looking at the ground if his eyes were open at all. But that's how it goes. You can get you ass totally kicked and still pull your punchers chance card out of your ass. Wouldn't call it a great game plan though just a fortunate turn of events. I really thought we would see him verbally submit on his feet from leg kicks for the second time in his career. To bad for Melvin, he was looking dominant.

I think the loss had a lot to do with the lack of gladiator trunks.
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PostSubject: Re: Any Word on Manhoef ?   Any Word on Manhoef ? - Page 2 EmptyMon Feb 01, 2010 11:02 pm

LMFAO@"please"


Ninja you don't watch a whole lot of K1, seen many of Melvin's fights or have many folks who do watch it a lot I'd imagine.

That fight you linked didn't even happen 12 months ago. You act like Melvin's chin has been this legendary weakspot. I do remember watching that recently though and the thought of a declining chin crossed my mind as much as "I wonder how much money changed hands with that upset". Anyway he wasn't knocked out cold. He tried to stand up at eight and the ref stopped it probably early so the jap could get the win. As usual.

Melvin always fights guys 20, 40 or more pounds bigger than he is. If his chin were weak at all, there is no way he could survive doing that long. He has been fighting for over 15 years, if anything this is just his chin catching up to him now. He has never had a weak chin in his career.

Let us break it down ;

His other notable KOs that you might have ever seen would be a ko from a flying kick from Remy who ran all the way across the ring in a fight where he had already taken a lot of flush kicks to the head and a short hook directly to the back of his head from Ray Sefo. and him fading in round three once he was gassed and took two or three huge hooks from Dževad Poturak who outweighed him by probably 40 or more pounds in that fight. None of these fighters weigh close to what Melvin does. There is another kickboxing loss by KO but it's from 1996 and I didn't feel like looking that up.


As for his loss to Bob Schriber, it took 20+ huge shots from a
260 pound HW in his guard for the red to stop that, which Melvin immediately protested. Rodney Faverus, a guy the size of Rampage, tko'd him late into their war after they exchanged a lot of heavy shots with a massive shot that bounced his head off the ground. In both of those fights, they were ground and pound TKO's late in fights where he had started to run out of gas.

Melvin's only been out cold I believe once in his career, and that came Saturday, against a guy with sickening power.





No sir, Melvin Manhoef doesn't have a "weak chin", unless these two recent tkos reflect a decline in his chin that comes from years of brawling.
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Most K1 fighters don't get knocked out cold like Melvin does every time he takes a jab.

Still laughing at this sillyness.
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