Anderson at HW?

mir may get lit up on the feet but he is not stupid and once distance closed he would get on the ground and then as the saying goes"a good big man will be a good smaller man"

U sure about that Cubua? Fedor cough, Fedor

I have no idea on why everyone thinks Fedor could beat him, unless they started the fight on the ground. Fedor is slower and less accurate than Forrest and he couldn't touch Anderson. If hey fought, unless Fedor managed to get him on the ground, I don't see the "Last Emperor" looking good or winning. Silva is a match-up nightmare for almost anyone.

LA i would have fedor over anderson lol and yes fedor is exception to my overall good rule.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

I have no idea on why everyone thinks Fedor could beat him, unless they started the fight on the ground. Fedor is slower and less accurate than Forrest and he couldn't touch Anderson. If hey fought, unless Fedor managed to get him on the ground, I don't see the "Last Emperor" looking good or winning. Silva is a match-up nightmare for almost anyone.

Anderson has already stated that he wouldn't win in a fight against Fedor. Not to mention moving from Middleweight to the Heavyweight division is a tremendous leap in the strength of the competition. Anderson wouldn't be stronger than anyone, not to mention wouldn't have the knockout power to beat the top guys like Mir or Lesnar. Those two guys would bull rush his ass and put him to the mat. Can you really see Silva getting his little clinch on Brock or Mir, much less Fedor?...Big mistake if Silva moves up to try and challenge these guys. I see him being much more competitive at the LHW division with the likes of Shogun and Machida.

I know what Anderson said and I have a hard time believing he doesn't believe he can beat Fedor.

Fedor is one thing, Brock due to his pure raw strength and size is another, but I fail to see why Anderson couldn't take out Mir.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

I have no idea on why everyone thinks Fedor could beat him, unless they started the fight on the ground. Fedor is slower and less accurate than Forrest and he couldn't touch Anderson. If hey fought, unless Fedor managed to get him on the ground, I don't see the "Last Emperor" looking good or winning. Silva is a match-up nightmare for almost anyone.

Even Anderson admitted he is no match for Fedor and Forest is a good bit slower than Fedor. Arlovski was out cold before the audience even knew what hit him.


Brock or Fedor would crush Anderson but he might have a chance with Mir if Mir decided to trade with him.

Anderson vs Kongo would be fun while it lasted. There is a good reason why Anderson cuts so much weight though.

Anderson actually has progressively been moving up the weight classes, he was a WW, then MW, little at LHW, now possibly HW. Standing Anderson has the advantage over Fedor, on the ground it's all Fedro.

Pardon my pucker, but the guy walks around at 215 or 220. You don't have really cut weight in the HW division unless your built like Brock or Mir. Do you guys think that Fedor cuts down to 230 for a fight? Really? As far as stand-up I know Fedor has faster hands than Forrest, I also know that Silva is one of the best fighters when it comes to avoiding blows, he hits hard, he hits fast, he hits with regularity. Of course Fedor could beat him, I just don't think so. The only one I can kinda see beating Silva at HW? Maybe Brock, but even then, I don't think so.

wow andrew you must bee balls deep in manateen your talking craziness

I am confused some of you think GSP would beat Silva but some you think Silva would beat Mir ?

GSP wouldn't beat Silva. He would need 25 minutes of lay n pray which wouldn't happen against someone of Anderson's caliber. And yes Silva beats Mir

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Do you guys think that Fedor cuts down to 230 for a fight? Really?

No because unlike Anderson he doesnt need to fight smaller guys to win.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

As far as stand-up I know Fedor has faster hands than Forrest

LOL glad we agree on that now.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Pardon my pucker, but the guy walks around at 215 or 220. You don't have really cut weight in the HW division unless your built like Brock or Mir. I also know that Silva is one of the best fighters when it comes to avoiding blows, he hits hard, he hits fast, he hits with regularity. Of course Fedor could beat him, I just don't think so. The only one I can kinda see beating Silva at HW? Maybe Brock, but even then, I don't think so.

Silva walks around at 215-220 so why dont he fight at HW then if Brock is the only HW in the world that "maybe" can beat him?

Spider is good but come on guys??? Fedor kills him, Brock kills him, and Mir in my opion also beats him. he is awesome but just because he is great dont mean he would beat every1. Except Fedor lol.

Mir would play the fight smart and bullrush Anderson, then work a version of Lesnar's own topgame on Anderson, or worse.

I think if Mir got Anderson down, he could position himself for some finishing strikes easily with his BJJ game and size.

Mir TKO GNP, or Anderson via standing shut out.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Mir would play the fight smart and bullrush Anderson, then work a version of Lesnar's own topgame on Anderson, or worse.

I think if Mir got Anderson down, he could position himself for some finishing strikes easily with his BJJ game and size.

Mir TKO GNP, or Anderson via standing shut out.

Wolf that might be the smartest thing you have ever typed. I still don't see it happening that way, because I think Mir doesn't have enough foot speed to make that happen. But if he could get him to the ground, I believe Mir's ground skills would have a good chance of locking him up.

As to the others who think GSP can't beat Silva? You got that right!

timthebim wrote:

Spider is good but come on guys??? Fedor kills him, Brock kills him, and Mir in my opion also beats him. he is awesome but just because he is great dont mean he would beat every1. Except Fedor lol.

Agree. Anderson has dominated the MW division and had success at LHW, that doesn't mean he can contend with the bigger HWs out there. At some point size advantage does matter, and it matters a lot.

Also, there's no reason to think Anderson would beat Fedor. Arlovski has better hands than Fedor and look what happened to him. Anderson is a great MW and possibly a great LHW, but he's not a HW and definitely not a great HW. Anderson's success has come against a largely lackluster MW division, I mean, who has been his toughest test? Marquardt? Franklin? Come on, neither of those guys are top ten p4p, Marquardt barely breaks into the top 20 and Franklin isn't even in the tope 20 IMO.

Anderson is awesome, fucking awesome, but let's not go overboard.

Bigs03 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

Spider is good but come on guys??? Fedor kills him, Brock kills him, and Mir in my opion also beats him. he is awesome but just because he is great dont mean he would beat every1. Except Fedor lol.

Agree. Anderson has dominated the MW division and had success at LHW, that doesn't mean he can contend with the bigger HWs out there. At some point size advantage does matter, and it matters a lot.

Also, there's no reason to think Anderson would beat Fedor. Arlovski has better hands than Fedor and look what happened to him. Anderson is a great MW and possibly a great LHW, but he's not a HW and definitely not a great HW. Anderson's success has come against a largely lackluster MW division, I mean, who has been his toughest test? Marquardt? Franklin? Come on, neither of those guys are top ten p4p, Marquardt barely breaks into the top 20 and Franklin isn't even in the tope 20 IMO.

Anderson is awesome, fucking awesome, but let's not go overboard.

So because Fedor beat Arlovski, then Anderson has no shot. I don't see how the correlates at all. Arlovski also got KO'd by Viacheslav Datsik. You think Anderson has a shot vs him???

As for his toughest tests, how about one of the greatest of all times Dan Henderson? Rich Franklin is a very good MW. So is Nate Marquardt. Forrest Griffin is a former LHW Champion.

And Anderson was sub'd by Ryo Chonnan. Fedor by near-horrifically-unwatchable kimura.

Farmer1906 wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

Spider is good but come on guys??? Fedor kills him, Brock kills him, and Mir in my opion also beats him. he is awesome but just because he is great dont mean he would beat every1. Except Fedor lol.

Agree. Anderson has dominated the MW division and had success at LHW, that doesn't mean he can contend with the bigger HWs out there. At some point size advantage does matter, and it matters a lot.

Also, there's no reason to think Anderson would beat Fedor. Arlovski has better hands than Fedor and look what happened to him. Anderson is a great MW and possibly a great LHW, but he's not a HW and definitely not a great HW. Anderson's success has come against a largely lackluster MW division, I mean, who has been his toughest test? Marquardt? Franklin? Come on, neither of those guys are top ten p4p, Marquardt barely breaks into the top 20 and Franklin isn't even in the tope 20 IMO.

Anderson is awesome, fucking awesome, but let's not go overboard.

So because Fedor beat Arlovski, then Anderson has no shot. I don't see how the correlates at all. Arlovski also got KO'd by Viacheslav Datsik. You think Anderson has a shot vs him???

As for his toughest tests, how about one of the greatest of all times Dan Henderson? Rich Franklin is a very good MW. So is Nate Marquardt. Forrest Griffin is a former LHW Champion.

I wasn't trying to use MMA math there, I was just combatting the point someone else made about Anderson being better on the feet than Fedor. Of course just because Fedor beat Arlovski doesn't mean that Fedor can beat Anderson, I just happen to believe that Fedor is much better than Anderson as great as Anderson is.

As far as Hendo, sure, he's another great test, but other guys have beat him too. Do you think Rampage is suddenly a guy who can move up and beat Fedor, Lesnar, and Mir just because he beat Hendo? Of course not.

Forrest used to be LHW champ but he's nowhere near the level of the very top fighters in MMA. He's a tough scrapper and that's great, but he can't hang with the best of the best.

Farmer1906 wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

Spider is good but come on guys??? Fedor kills him, Brock kills him, and Mir in my opion also beats him. he is awesome but just because he is great dont mean he would beat every1. Except Fedor lol.

Agree. Anderson has dominated the MW division and had success at LHW, that doesn't mean he can contend with the bigger HWs out there. At some point size advantage does matter, and it matters a lot.

Also, there's no reason to think Anderson would beat Fedor. Arlovski has better hands than Fedor and look what happened to him. Anderson is a great MW and possibly a great LHW, but he's not a HW and definitely not a great HW. Anderson's success has come against a largely lackluster MW division, I mean, who has been his toughest test? Marquardt? Franklin? Come on, neither of those guys are top ten p4p, Marquardt barely breaks into the top 20 and Franklin isn't even in the tope 20 IMO.

Anderson is awesome, fucking awesome, but let's not go overboard.

So because Fedor beat Arlovski, then Anderson has no shot. I don't see how the correlates at all. Arlovski also got KO'd by Viacheslav Datsik. You think Anderson has a shot vs him???

As for his toughest tests, how about one of the greatest of all times Dan Henderson? Rich Franklin is a very good MW. So is Nate Marquardt. Forrest Griffin is a former LHW Champion.

Also, Franklin dominated the MW division when the MW division wasn't very good. He's been embarrassed twice by Anderson, had to go the distance against Wandy, lost to Hendo, and got KO'd brutally by Vitor. There are any number of guys who can beat Franklin. Franklin won the belt from Evan Tanner who was a good fighter but not great. Then Rich defended against Nate Quarry and David Loiseau...not exactly a very impressive lineup of contendors at MW at that time. Kind of the same problem that Anderson faces at MW now which is why he's moved to LHW.

Look at the guys GSP has had to face at 170, much stiffer competition than Anderson or Rich ever had to face in their division. Same for BJ, he has dominated 155 but there are a lot of good fighters there. The LHW division has great fighters also, that's why Anderson should stay there. If he dominates the LHW division he will cement his legacy so much more than if he just stayed a MW and defended his belt against nobodies.

Silva has a punchers chance, but I would put my money on Mir, Brock, and Fedor if he fought any of them. Mentioning Ryo Chonan is played out and was pure luck Wolfie...and I am a Silva hater from way back.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

And Anderson was sub'd by Ryo Chonnan. Fedor by near-horrifically-unwatchable kimura.

You just said like a week ago that they'd have a close fight, and u could see Anderson beating Fedor.

Fedor would kill Silva! Any Silva for that matter