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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 10:37 pm

Oggy showing his ass and ignorance here by name calling and thinking Diaz was landing more. Longer fighters that have portions of their forearm touching their opponent while he is defending =/= landing strikes.

I kept screaming at the TV though for Maynard to take him down because when a shorter, better boxer plays the jab game with a longer fighter, even well meaning judges can be duped.
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 10:41 pm

whatever im done arguing about this just thought i would share my opinion this fight was closer to a diaz win than a 30-27 for maynard.
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 10:44 pm

I had it scored myself as a 29-28 for Maynard, but wouldnt have been shocked if it had been scored 30-27.

I dont see how you can have a problem with that Oggy.
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 10:46 pm

umm because Maynard clearly lost the 3rd round. Thats why. Tell me what Gray did to win that round. Please tell me.
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 10:48 pm

I DIDNT GIVE GRAY THE THIRD ROUND I HAD IT 29-28!!! lol
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 10:50 pm

you just said you wouldn't be shocked if it was 30-27.
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 11:33 pm

Because I wouldnt have been shocked. That doesnt mean thats how I thought it went lol
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 11:38 pm

my bad NoRegret im real fired up tonight if ya cant tell haha
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 11:40 pm

Diaz bros are raelly overrated strikers
they slap , they in no way shape or form have great boxing technique or skills
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 11:47 pm

^ someone either hasn't watched Nick Diaz fight or doesn't know much about boxing...
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 1:27 am

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my bad NoRegret im real fired up tonight if ya cant tell haha

ha well if ya arent gettin laid then maybe you need to let the snake outta its cage tonight hahaha testosterone is a bitch! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 2:38 am

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^ someone either hasn't watched Nick Diaz fight or doesn't know much about boxing...

From what Ive seen of them, they always square up, dont put their sholders into their punches, THEY ARE ARM PUNCHERS, which in the world of boxing is called a slap.

yet alone they rarely put their legs or body behind a punch

I am not surprised they changed forms of combat sports
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 2:39 am

go pull up the punch stats for Maynard fight

it wasnt very impressive

the wrestler outlanded him
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 3:29 am

Had it 29-28 Gray, but thought there was some biased commentating going on
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 10:32 am

I honestly think it should have been a draw. They both looked like crap neither in imo did enough to earn the win. It was the sloppiest pro standup fight I have ever seen.


I would like to add that the Diaz "pillow punching" claims are getting out of hand. Lets say your at the bar and two guys take a fight outside and you stay inside. After their done they both come back into the bar, one guys face looks like Maynards and one looks like Nates. EVERYONE on this board seeing the two guys faces would say the guy that looked like Maynard got his ass fucked up and no one would question if the other guy hit hard.
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 11:06 am

Many could have given the 3rd to Maynard for hurting Diaz at the end of the round and in boxing talk..."stealing the round."
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 12:02 pm

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I honestly think it should have been a draw. They both looked like crap neither in imo did enough to earn the win. It was the sloppiest pro standup fight I have ever seen.


I would like to add that the Diaz "pillow punching" claims are getting out of hand. Lets say your at the bar and two guys take a fight outside and you stay inside. After their done they both come back into the bar, one guys face looks like Maynards and one looks like Nates. EVERYONE on this board seeing the two guys faces would say the guy that looked like Maynard got his ass fucked up and no one would question if the other guy hit hard.

Maynard had a cut going into the fight from what I heard, so that is a ridiculous post.

Not to mention some people just cut and bruise easier than other fighters, so once again your post is untrue.
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 12:32 pm

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MMAEYES wrote:
I honestly think it should have been a draw. They both looked like crap neither in imo did enough to earn the win. It was the sloppiest pro standup fight I have ever seen.


I would like to add that the Diaz "pillow punching" claims are getting out of hand. Lets say your at the bar and two guys take a fight outside and you stay inside. After their done they both come back into the bar, one guys face looks like Maynards and one looks like Nates. EVERYONE on this board seeing the two guys faces would say the guy that looked like Maynard got his ass fucked up and no one would question if the other guy hit hard.

Maynard had a cut going into the fight from what I heard, so that is a ridiculous post.

Not to mention some people just cut and bruise easier than other fighters, so once again your post is untrue.

Sorry if I don't but alot of weight into what "you heard".
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 12:38 pm

Well sorry if I dont agree with the "his face was more messed up so Diaz had more power in his punches" post that you made sir.
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 12:44 pm

Some fighters cut and bruise more easily then others; its a fact of fighting. Forget all the "if two guys went outside of a bar and fought" nonsense. We are talking about two professional fighters, not two jackasses in a bar. Youre right about the bar thing, usually the guy who is more marked up lost. However, when dealing with pro fighters, thats not always the case. Take Arturo Gatti for example. That guy swelled and cut if you touched his face once; doesnt mean he lost every decision he was in simply because he cuts and bruises easily. The whole "look at the other guy's face" is the predictable reaction by a fighter who knows he lost, but can only point to one thing that might mislead the public. Did BJ win the last two rounds against GSP because he bloodied him up in the first? No.
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 12:48 pm

Fedor clearly lost against Cro Cop. Look at his face -

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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 12:50 pm

lmao
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 12:52 pm

NoRegret wrote:
Well sorry if I dont agree with the "his face was more messed up so Diaz had more power in his punches" post that you made sir.

His face wasn't just more messed up than Nate's it was way worse and Nate looked like he hadn't even fought. And at least I have evidence to support my opinion(greys face) least I didn't say I HEARD Nate hits harder than people say
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 12:53 pm

MMAEYES look at the two other posts backing up my post you moron.

SOME FIGHTERS CUT AND BRUISE EASIER THAN OTHERS
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PostSubject: Re: Diaz was robbed   Diaz was robbed - Page 2 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 12:55 pm

JimboJones1 wrote:
Some fighters cut and bruise more easily then others; its a fact of fighting. Forget all the "if two guys went outside of a bar and fought" nonsense. We are talking about two professional fighters, not two jackasses in a bar. Youre right about the bar thing, usually the guy who is more marked up lost. However, when dealing with pro fighters, thats not always the case. Take Arturo Gatti for example. That guy swelled and cut if you touched his face once; doesnt mean he lost every decision he was in simply because he cuts and bruises easily. The whole "look at the other guy's face" is the predictable reaction by a fighter who knows he lost, but can only point to one thing that might mislead the public. Did BJ win the last two rounds against GSP because he bloodied him up in the first? No.


I agree I'm using the bar arguement to say Nate has more power in his punches than people are giving him credit for that's all
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