Fight Metric on Diaz-Maynard

http://fightmetric.com/fights/Maynard-Diaz.html

Diaz had more in sheer numbers because of his style, but Maynard landed way more power shots.

Head Power
19 to 6

Body Power
10 to 2

Legs Power
0 to 6

hmm interesting. Maybe the judge who had Diaz winning wasn't that crazy afterall. I mean yea Gray rocked him but dont forget Diaz dropped Gray with a punch too and tagged him good a couple times in the 3rd. Grays face was bloddied up. Nate won the last part of the 2nd round and the 3rd convincingly. Although i had it 29-28 Maynard.

When was Gray dropped by a punch?

he dropped him in the 3rd

"In the third both fighters began to get a sense of urgency, and Diaz landed his best strike of the fight in knocking Maynard down a minute and a half into the third. Diaz controlled the third round most of the way, but Maynard came on hard late, and at the end of the fight it was hard to guess how the judges would score it."

I just rewatched that part and Maynard throws a huge looping right and gets tagged. To me it looked like he wasn't dropped, but more just knock off balance. He was up before Nate could even attempt to hit him again.

naa he cought him with a punch and dropped him. Have to give credit where it's due. Granted Gray wasn't super rocked but he still went down.

oggy420 wrote:

naa he cought him with a punch and dropped him. Have to give credit where it's due. Granted Gray wasn't super rocked but he still went down.

So being off balance had nothing to do with a guy didn't seem hurt and "wasn't super rocked"?

Farmer1906 wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

naa he cought him with a punch and dropped him. Have to give credit where it's due. Granted Gray wasn't super rocked but he still went down.

So being off balance had nothing to do with a guy didn't seem hurt and "wasn't super rocked"?

So what if he was off balance? That's still something he did wrong, cause his footing wasn't right or whatever the case may be, and Nate took advantage of it. Therefore, like Oggy said, give credit where credit is due.

ram_escandon wrote:

Farmer1906 wrote:

oggy420 wrote:

naa he cought him with a punch and dropped him. Have to give credit where it's due. Granted Gray wasn't super rocked but he still went down.

So being off balance had nothing to do with a guy didn't seem hurt and "wasn't super rocked"?

So what if he was off balance? That's still something he did wrong, cause his footing wasn't wrong or whatever the case may be, and Nate took advantage of it. Therefore, like Oggy said, give credit where credit is due.

Thats like giving Maynard credit for dropping Diaz after he caught him with a good shot then shoved him down. Maybe it looks good, but neither Diaz or Maynard were in danger in the situations.

Argument being: was it in fact a knock down if Maynard was off balance? Yes.

Was Maynard ever really hurt? No.

Neither fighter rocked the other, really.

A knockdown implies the fighter was hurt, even breifly. What happened to Maynard in the third round was the equivalent to a "slip" in boxing which is not scored as a knockdown. It was caused by being off balance, not because he was momentarily rocked. However, Maynard did rock Diaz in the closing minute of the third round. I had Maynard winning the fight bc he was landing the harder shots and hurt Diaz more.

JimboJones1 wrote:

A knockdown implies the fighter was hurt, even breifly. What happened to Maynard in the third round was the equivalent to a "slip" in boxing which is not scored as a knockdown. It was caused by being off balance, not because he was momentarily rocked. However, Maynard did rock Diaz in the closing minute of the third round. I had Maynard winning the fight bc he was landing the harder shots and hurt Diaz more.

Whatever about the knockdown..... but, I agree, I had Maynard winning, too. To me it looked like Maynard was getting the cleaner shots that were landing flush and some of Nate's were also on target, but they were more like grazing shots and any that landed even semi flush, didn't really have power behind them.

he got tagged on the chin and went down. Its not like he went down on his own or was pushes down. Id diaz didn't land the punch Maynard wouldnt have been on the ground, even if it was for 1 second. Doesn't matter it's still a knock down.

diaz tagged maynard cleanly more than you think. Because he wasn't winging them from his hips like maynard doesn't mean they weren't landing. Rewatch the 3rd round if you must. It's not like Maynrad dominated thid fight.

Both need to work on thier standup. Lets just leave it at that.

This debate is a laugh.


Punch to the face + falldown = knockdown.

I do not understand the label of great strikers on the Diaz brothers

6 of 82 head power strikes for Diaz
sounds about right

Well Nick actually lands strikes. Nate isn't near the same level

bobbitt15 wrote:

Well Nick actually lands strikes. Nate isn't near the same level

They both slap with punches and arm punch
Obvious why they gave up on boxing to me

bobbitt15 wrote:

Well Nick actually lands strikes. Nate isn't near the same level

They both slap with punches and arm punch
Obvious why they gave up on boxing to me

If Nick Diaz is such a terrible striker how come more than half of his wins are by tko? Everyone knows Nick's boxing is well above average. So that kills your point right there. I guess because he prefers to throw more accurate strikes than powerful, he must be garbage to then uneducated striking fan. Nicks boxing is honestly some of the best in mma you tard. He out boxed Gomi for christ sake.

Now to this fight, where you try to skew the numbers to support your biased attack against the Diaz bros, a person with common sense can look at the fight metirc for this fight and see the Diaz landed a hell of alot more strikes throughout the fight. If you rewatch the fight on mute (because it's obvious Rogan is on Grays nuts) you will see a hell of a close 1st round that i honestly after rewatching gave to nate, then Gray takes round 2, and Nate clearly picked aprt Gray in round 3. And if you look at Grays face, that "pitter patter arm punches" fucked his face up pretty bad.

I watched it without sound and felt that the judges made the right call. Nate tried to clinch a few times in the fight, I'm guessing because he was hurt. He had to know that there was no way he could take Gray down. Kind of a desperation move, plus judges score points for successful sprawls as grappling/octagon control.

Gray fought a dumb fight, but I still think he did the most damage and came the closest to finishing. If Gray were smart he should have taken him down each round just before the horn to avoid a sub and earn a takedown point. Plus throwing that many power shots is just silly.