Roger Heurta to SF?

"Ok.... Yall keep asking me when my next fight is going to be. Who on here wants to really know?? ...My manager @jeffclarkmma and I met with scott coker and Richard Chou with strikeforce on monday. So I believe this is where..."

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/1/8/1240336/roger-huerta-20-3-1-about-to-sign

He might as well since he will never win the belt in the UFC.

Another good fighter going to SF.

I wish he was staying with the UFC, but he can't win the LW title there, so maybe he can do better against the middle-of-the-road talent at SF.

Bigs03 wrote:

He might as well since he will never win the belt in the UFC.

Well then everyone outside of Penn should bolt the UFC.

But the SF's 155 is looking pretty darn good. Amazing how deep that division is world wide.

Like Huerta, but he's pretty low on the totem pole in the UFC LW division, he'd prob be the 4th best LW in the WEC, good move for him personally.

captain organic wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

He might as well since he will never win the belt in the UFC.

Well then everyone outside of Penn should bolt the UFC.

But the SF's 155 is looking pretty darn good. Amazing how deep that division is world wide.

Maybe so.

captain organic wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

He might as well since he will never win the belt in the UFC.

Well then everyone outside of Penn should bolt the UFC.

But the SF's 155 is looking pretty darn good. Amazing how deep that division is world wide.

Even more amazing someone can dominate a division that deep.

He's going no where til NOV

http://mmajunkie.com/news/17473/despite-strikeforce-teases-roger-huerta-unlikely-to-sign-anywhere-until-november.mma?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mmajunkie+(MMAjunkie.com+Feed)&utm_content=Twitter

It's not like he'll win a belt in Strikeforce and DREAM neitheir. He can provide entertaining matchups but i would pick most of those guys like Gil, Josh, KJ, Aoki, Kawijiri to beat that guy.

Heurta is good for some exciting fights though. I'm surprised why he's not going back to UFC. I thought they liked guys like Heurta.

I think he can compete with Josh and KJ for sure

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

I think he can compete with Josh and KJ for sure

Heurta can compete with just about anybody though except BJ. His last fight with Gray was pretty damn competitive. The guy is tough as nails. Im not saying he couldent beat KJ or Josh, i would just pick them to beat Roger.

I actually think they'd be about 50/50 fights, but I see what ur sayin, who knows if the UFC still won't give him a new contract, though I think he'll probably be gone, that division is too stacked for him now, and if they ever (which I think they will) merge with the WEC, he's even further down the totem pole.

Huerta is all of 26 years old. 20-3 career record. Just went to a split decision against a top UFC contendor. If he in line behind numerous WEC guys then the UFC 155 division is vastly overrated.

Ya Huerta is still an exciting young talent with a good career in front of him, who I would put in the same class as everyone south of BJ in the UFC. Tremendous heart too.

LA, with Strikeforce constantly going after UFC poster boys like this and huge stars in the Japanese market, do you really think the potential loss of a couple guys here or there would be that bad for them? There are few if any MMA journalists who have ever questioned this promotions staying power, where as everyone else's doom was seen a mile away.

I'm a Heurta fan, but lets be realistic, he has no wins against top guys, his best wins are against Guida eh and Garcia a FW, other than that he hasn't rally beaten anyone of note. I mean he's a gamer and will put on some exciting fights, but that's about all he's gonna do. He put on a good effort against Gray, but lost, and Maynard could have won easily had he used his wrestling more. In the UFC LW landscape he's behind

BJ
KenFlo
Edgar
Gray
Diego
Sherk
Griffin
Gomi
Stevenson
Miller
Nate Diaz
then there's guys like Stout, Pellegrino, Fisher, Neer, ect who the fights can go either way

The WEC guys, like Varner, Henderson and Cerrone the fights could also go either way, but Cerrone is a better striker and more well-rded, and Varner and Henderson would use there wrestling which is Heurta weakness.

Wolfy, with the guys that have or might leave the UFC and sign with SF, the ball is always in the UFC court, it's ultamately their decision if they want to resign the guy or let him walk.

LA the ball is always in the court of the original contract holding body in any sport. That is irrelevant to whether other teams or interests are going to pursue free agents aggressively to compete and certainly imaterial to whether Strikeforce will go under because Nick Diaz and Gagard Mousasi leave if Strikeforce continues to sign all these great and popular fighters.

Heurta great? but losing 2 of their top 5 fighters is a blow, anyways u want to look at it.

He is a great star in any event. No one said it wasn't a blow, but you said that if they lost two of those guys they'd go under. Just wonderin if you'd rethought it at all.

Strikeforce is a sure thing man.

Here's the thread bro, https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/mma-f1/predictions-for-2010-t2315.htm give it a read, closest thing I say to what ur claiming, is "I'm not buying staying power" People are trying to make it seem like they're gonna be this threat and competition to the UFC, and I'm not buying it.

I would like to see him in the WEC.

i think he can make noise in the SF LW division. Especially if people are gonna brawl with him cause Roger can brawl. I think fights with Gil and Josh and others would be very competitive and i wouldn't be surprised to see him win. He's young and getting better and i know i read he was in Thailand for a while training Muay Thai so he seems to be taking his fighting career very seriously which is a good sign.

The "threat" and competition factor is over played, I agree there. They aren't going to compete for viewers. They don't even really offer the same product. The UFC is PPV dollars and live gate, Strikeforce is free, making money more like a traditional sport, advertising and live gate. Strikeforce has countered one Zuffa event, but that was more like a counter strike after Zuffa "declared war". They will compete for fighters, but that is really the only place real competition is going to happen, especially once Strikeforce gets more name recognititon.

The whole thing where Zuffa counters Strikeforce events is really a dangerous thing for Zuffa because if Strikeforce starts countering PPVs, that could really hurt UFC buyrates, especially with all the young guns and name fighters they have now. I don't anticipate the UFC to be countering Strikeforce for too much longer in light of that. That policy of Zuffa could certainly backfire, especially if Strikeforce secures a cable deal similar to the Spike one and could reach millions of homes cheaply on a network more like TBS, FX, USA or any number of other ones.

I don't see anyway the UFC could squeeze Strikeforce out of the market considering Strikeforce has sound finacial practices, makes money with every event, and doesn't rely on PPV. Also, I don't think the UFC is stupid enough to open the pandoras box of simply out-bidding Strikeforce fighters out of the promotion. That would ultimately involve over paying for services and signing guys for more than they're worth, compared to UFC guys with similar records and rankings. That would just drive UFC profits down and could force them to raise what they pay anyone. That also risks giving perhaps undeserved legitimacy to Strikeforce fighters if the UFC is seen going after anyone they have aggressively, putting them on the same plane.

They will compete for somethings, but I think it is more likely they'll work something out to exist together and squeeze other rivals out in concert. Strikeforce is the only promotion outside of Dream I have ever felt will really grow or survive. I was loud in my criticism of those who declared Affliction, the IFL, EliteXC and others dead in the water long before that was clear, but I still recognized that those promotions were facing an uphill battle.

Strikeforce just feels different. LA, I think the infant mortality rate of MMA promotions has made you cynical here. I can relate to that, because I don't see Bellator surviving in this climate long at all. This is their last season.

But Bellator offers such a unique product Wolf. A straight tourney format. In terms of finding a unique niche in the market I think Bellator found a great one. One could see a SF type org which has fighters sitting idly(Joey Villasenor for instance) encouraging their fighters to fight on ESPN and try to win a Bellator tourney win.

Still have yet to see a Bellator fight, but i'll be looking for it this year.

That is true to an extent, which is why Bellator if it wishes to survive, would likely have to reduce it's aim to being a feeder promotion. I don't see them being able to sustain stars with this season format.

Strikeforce was still having tournaments until 2007, and I've heard nothing saying they won't in the future. The UFC offers a tournament once or twice a year with prospects itself by the way, it is just polluted with peeing in fruit and giant pink poneys. Dream and Sengoku are always in the mist of tournaments too.