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PostSubject: Re: UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks    UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks  - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 12:08 pm

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Hendricks won the fight but GSP clearly won 2 rounds.
I don't agree. If you take away round scoring and just score the fight Johnny won. I though it was competitive but not a close fight. I just don't see any way you score the fight for GSP without being overly cute with your point system. Any scoring system giving GSP that fight is flawed.

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OU wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
Hendricks won the fight but GSP clearly won 2 rounds.
I don't agree. If you take away round scoring and just score the fight Johnny won. I though it was competitive but not a close fight. I just don't see any way you score the fight for GSP without being overly cute with your point system. Any scoring system giving GSP that fight is flawed.
You're arguing against me when I said I thought Hendricks won it also. I had it 48-47 Hendricks. I don't know how you only gave GSP 1 round though. He clearly won rounds 3 and 5. Hendricks won rounds 1, 2 and 4.
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PostSubject: Re: UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks    UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks  - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 12:50 pm

So, I thought the main event was pretty good. Do you guys hate GSP's performance against Hendricks?

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Are u fucking serious with this post bro? ur a newbie to MMA compared to me, I watch all fights, but don't get a hard on unless guys are in the top 30.

Uh, Are u fucking serious with this post bro?



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So, I thought the main event was pretty good.  Do you guys hate GSP's performance against Hendricks?
He was physically and mentally beat for 20 minutes of that fight. It played out like I thought it could. But no one wanted to hear that before the fight. I'm still very frustrated and extremely disappointed in the reaction of some. Weird that some hardcores are the one grasping to some flawed scoring system that would suggest that fight was anywhere close to even. GSP was competitive but clearly lost the fight. If there was a video game type bar above each fighters head it would look like Johnny dominated. Which he didn't exactly dominate but he clearly controlled the majority of the fight and clearly did more to win the fight. I hate so much that anyone can twist points to score it for GSP. He didn't control position, he didn't do damage. How the fuck can you win without doing either? Volume of punches doesn't mean shit if you don't have anything on it.

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PostSubject: Re: UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks    UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks  - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 1:15 pm

I think GSP fought like a man who knew he was leaving after the fight and Hendricks took advantage and probably should've gotten a 48-47 decision

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PostSubject: Re: UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks    UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks  - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 1:27 pm

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I think GSP fought like a man who knew he was leaving after the fight and Hendricks took advantage and probably should've gotten a 48-47 decision
He fought like a man who couldn't implement his gameplan and probably suffered a concusion early on in the fight. The fact that he is in amazing shape and a great athlete is what even kept him competitive. But he couldn't get or keep Johnny down and he was obviously the weaker fighter physically for the first time since he fought Hughes the 1st time and he didn't have the advantages he is use to having. Being hurt early in the fight and not being able to physically wear his opponent down from top position made him look very different late in the fight then we are use to. But IMO it was all Hendricks doing that broke him and not some bullshit personal issue leading up to the fight. He got beat buzzer to buzzer for the first time in his career.

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PostSubject: Re: UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks    UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks  - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 1:32 pm

He speared Hendricks 10 seconds into the fight and made a nice transition for a top side guillotine and then pretty much ignored his grappling for the rest of the fight outside of very brief stretches. That's not GSP.

There wouldn't even be controversy about this decision if GSP didn't trip on Johny's leg in the 4th round which let him get on top, that's the funny part

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He speared Hendricks 10 seconds into the fight and made a nice transition for a top side guillotine and then pretty much ignored his grappling for the rest of the fight outside of very brief stretches. That's not GSP.

There wouldn't even be controversy about this decision if GSP didn't trip on Johny's leg in the 4th round which let him get on top, that's the funny part
Funny, I thought it was weird it was called a slip and not an intentional trip which I thought it was. Either way he was forced to move away by Johnny and he was on his back as a result of Johnny being in his face. GSP also got rocked very hard in round 1 and IMO the damage he took had an effect on his cardio. That and the combination of his opponent being much fresher then usual because they aren't fighting to get up like most of GSP opponents. But like I said everything was a result of Johnny. The trip, the cardio, the mental break. It was all Johhny who isn't getting the credit he deserves.

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PostSubject: Re: UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks    UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks  - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 1:40 pm

Like GSP I'm ready to take a break. I'm just extremely annoyed by a lot of things about MMA right now. I'm just going to watch and not read or really interact about MMA for awhile. Killing my fandom.

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PostSubject: Re: UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks    UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks  - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 2:12 pm

Rewatching fight right now...

Round 1: GSP ducks under and lands the takedown. Moves quickly for the guillotine but Hendricks pushes off and gets back to his feet. Hendricks lands 3-4 nice elbows while GSP is holding onto a single leg. The majority of the offense the rest of the round is some pretty nice knees to the thigh from Johny while they are clinched up and a good body shot from Georges. 10-9 Hendricks

Round 2: Hendricks comes out and lands the uppercut that buckles GSP. Lands a few more hard shots in close before he clinches up and they pause to put his mouthpiece back in. Ironically, the next 2.5-3 minutes is possibly GSP's best action of the fight as he picks apart Johny on the feet with the jab and straight right. Give it to Hendricks because of the early damage and GSP appeared to be rocked. Hendricks 10-9

Round 3: Hendricks looks sluggish the majority of this right and Georges picks him apart. Counter hooks and the lefts that Johny lands have noticeably less of an impact than they did early. Hendricks gets a takedown with about 30 seconds left but does nothing on top and Georges gets back to his feet. GSP 10-9

Round 4: They engage on the feet, Johny throws some wild shots and Georges ducks under and then trips on his leg as he's backpedaling to get away. Johny gets on top and lands some decent elbows and then surprisingly lets him back up with the round half over. Johny lands some nice shots back on the feet and they clinch up for a while. 10-9 Hendricks

Round 5: GSP goes after a single leg for a while, nothing there. He clocks Johny with a hard 1-2 and gets a takedown. Hendricks gets back up to his feet and they spend a lot of time in the clinch. GSP gets another brief takedown near the end of the round and more clinchwork. GSP 10-9

So 48-47 Hendricks with the trip on the leg in the 4th playing a huge outcome in that score. GSP won more of the last 17 minutes of the fight, and Johny's 2nd round is being way overblown in people's minds. Good shots to buckle Georges early and went after him with some nice shots, but the last 2.5 minutes of that round was just Johny getting his head snapped back with the jab repeatedly.

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PostSubject: Re: UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks    UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks  - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 9:52 pm

I agree with the slip playing a major part also. OU, MMA isn't a bout who does the most damage but who wins the rounds and GSP clearly won 2 rounds. Hendricks deserves to be champ though. Also I've seen much worse decisions just this year.
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PostSubject: Re: UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks    UFC 167: St-Pierre vs. Hendricks  - Page 3 EmptyMon Nov 18, 2013 11:43 pm

OU talking mad shit because his fellow oklahomo only gve 70% effort and lost a decision because of it. Never follow a champion into championship rounds as the challenger. History repeats itself.

Stop hating the player and hate the game, shitface.

With that said I think the fight was a draw, and sorry to tell freak but I'm a bigger GSP fan boy than you, so me giving it a draw is being relatively fair. I think were about to get a good rivalry out of GSP and Hendricks.

We will see how this whole thing shakes out though. If I was Hendricks I would be game planning starting right now, cause I don't think GSP will let himself take that same beating twice. I'm willing to bet if GSP can shake his personal problems, he would come back and put on a better fight.
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