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GSP, Condit, Marquardt
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GSP, Condit, Ellenberger
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GSP, Hendricks, Marquardt
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GSP, Hendricks, Ellenberger
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Diaz, Condit, Marquardt
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Diaz, Condit, Ellenberger
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Diaz, Hendricks, Marquardt
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Diaz, Hendricks, Ellenberger
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 12:57 pm

KJ's standup is pretty overrated. And that was a close fight, Noons boxed his ears off in round 2. Maybe if he had gotten a haircut the day before he would have fared better
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 12:59 pm

Diaz schooled Noons, and fought against his strengths. How many times have we heard that Nick is gonna get outstruck? First it was zaromskis, than noons, than daley. Pretty sure he proved that no one is gonna exchange punches with him and come out on top. Does he take punches, yea, but his chin in solid. GSP ain't gonna drop Diaz with punches, if he wins it's gonna be by laying on him for 5 rounds while taking no risks to finish the fight.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 1:01 pm

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KJ's standup is pretty overrated. And that was a close fight, Noons boxed his ears off in round 2. Maybe if he had gotten a haircut the day before he would have fared better
Nick landed some nice combos in that fight and even if KJ's standup skills are overrated they are still much better then GSP's, who also has overrated standup. His standup took a major hit when his confidence in this standup was smashed by Serra. Nicks proves his standup vs standup fighters so we can see the proof of his skills. Post Serra GSP uses flashes of standup to setup the takedown. But he won't put himself in danger for long enough to really show any standup. But if he had to stand, Nick would box his face off 99 times out of 100.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 1:03 pm

I sense people talking the right game but being fully prepared for what they know is coming; GSP showing that Nick Diaz isn't good enough at MMA for him.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 1:04 pm

Diaz didn't school Noons they split the first 2 rounds decisively and then really nothing much happened the last 3 rounds of the fight and Diaz won by being the busier guy

OU, you're trying to use GSP's wrestling and safe gameplans to take shots at his standup. Just because he takes the easier path to victory doesn't mean his kickboxing isn't great. Took a couple jabs to break Kos' face, tagged Condit hard multiple times in that fight. His diversity on the feet would give Nick problems and I think we'll see that Saturday night
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 1:05 pm

good enough at lay-n-pray.

GSP is slightly more exciting than watching ben askren
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 1:06 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:
Diaz didn't school Noons they split the first 2 rounds decisively and then really nothing much happened the last 3 rounds of the fight and Diaz won by being the busier guy

OU, you're trying to use GSP's wrestling and safe gameplans to take shots at his standup. Just because he takes the easier path to victory doesn't mean his kickboxing isn't great. Took a couple jabs to break Kos' face, tagged Condit hard multiple times in that fight. His diversity on the feet would give Nick problems and I think we'll see that Saturday night
No his kickboxing isn't great because it isn't great. Not anywhere close to the level of Nick's boxing.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 1:09 pm

Every aspect of his game is great. It's why he hasn't been beaten in 6 years
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 1:13 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:
Every aspect of his game is great. It's why he hasn't been beaten in 6 years
I completely disagree, he has 1 aspect that is great and that is how he sets up his takedowns. He is amazing at setting up takedowns. He also has very good strength that helps his wrestling and he has great top control and defensive BJJ. But his offensive BJJ game is not great, it's good, his standup isn't great it's just OK right now but he great at mixing it all in. He is great at getting and keeping top control and winning rounds. That is what he is great at and that is why he keeps winning. But saying everything he does is great is just incorrect.
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GSP has ok standup....

I see..
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 1:17 pm

GDPofDRC wrote:
GSP has ok standup....

I see..
No you don't see because he rarely uses it for anything except setting up a takedown. Post Serra he is a scared standup fighter.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 1:21 pm

I think the dislike for GSP's style and wrestling have made people create a vulnerability for him on the feet that doesn't really exist. Its evident when people talk about matchups like one with Hendricks and act like if GSP couldn't get him down consistently it would only be a matter of time before he was unconscious. GSP would make Johny look like a rank amateur on the feet. That's not to say one big left could clip him, but come on
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 1:21 pm

I think you are setting yourself up for your biggest letdown yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 1:28 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:
I think the dislike for GSP's style and wrestling have made people create a vulnerability for him on the feet that doesn't really exist. Its evident when people talk about matchups like one with Hendricks and act like if GSP couldn't get him down consistently it would only be a matter of time before he was unconscious. GSP would make Johny look like a rank amateur on the feet. That's not to say one big left could clip him, but come on
Nick would box Hendricks ears off, they aren't really comparable. But Johnny could very well put GSP to sleep or any WW that stood infront of him. No shame in that though dude has insane power. I think GSP would do much better vs Hendricks in a standup fight because outside of the big haymaker he is a better standup fighter then Hendricks. Hendricks is a wreslter with KO power, but his overall striking is not that good.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 11:36 pm

bobbitt15 wrote:
I think the dislike for GSP's style and wrestling have made people create a vulnerability for him on the feet that doesn't really exist. Its evident when people talk about matchups like one with Hendricks and act like if GSP couldn't get him down consistently it would only be a matter of time before he was unconscious. GSP would make Johny look like a rank amateur on the feet. That's not to say one big left could clip him, but come on

I think it's more to do with the Serra loss and the fact Condit wobbled him.
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i went for GSP, condit and marquardt.

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This is surprising.
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UFC 158 press conference starts in 1 hour.

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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 14, 2013 12:08 pm

Well apparantly Dana is a lying asshole again. Well if you can beleive Ceaser who isn't much more credible himself. On twitter yesterday Gracie said Dana agreed to let Nick reschedule his workout. Ariel even retweeted it.
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My conference won't load.
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this press confrence is gold
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 14, 2013 1:27 pm

I hate my youtube right now, the only part I can watch is the same 1 minute part where Nick says "He thinks I'm trying to be like a bully from when he was a kid and you know, but let me ask you this Georges, how many times have you had a gun to your head, how many of your friends got shot in the chest and beat down?"

What the fuck is he talking about?
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Nick made GSP angrier than I've ever seen him.
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PostSubject: Re: Who wins? UFC 158   Who wins? UFC 158 - Page 2 EmptyThu Mar 14, 2013 1:40 pm

he's saying he's had a harder life than georges so george, the whole "nick is a bully" thing and george hates bullies
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GSP got mad when nick brought up steroids for some reason
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