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PostSubject: Carlos Condit vs Rory MacDonald 2 targeted for UFC 158   Carlos Condit vs Rory MacDonald 2 targeted for UFC 158 EmptyWed Dec 12, 2012 4:31 pm

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MacDonald (14-1 MMA, 5-1 UFC) on Wednesday told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio) he's been granted the rematch with Condit (28-6 MMA, 5-2 UFC), and UFC President Dana White confirmed the booking to MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).
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PostSubject: Re: Carlos Condit vs Rory MacDonald 2 targeted for UFC 158   Carlos Condit vs Rory MacDonald 2 targeted for UFC 158 EmptyWed Dec 12, 2012 4:38 pm

I think Macdonald avenges the only loss on his record here. He's improved by quite a bit since he gave Carlos all he could handle two and a half years ago and Carlos I think has peaked in a way.
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Carlos has way better hands than he did when they first matched up and I still don't see Rory being able to do much with his takedowns. All that time spent training for GSP should help Condit out a lot here
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PostSubject: Re: Carlos Condit vs Rory MacDonald 2 targeted for UFC 158   Carlos Condit vs Rory MacDonald 2 targeted for UFC 158 EmptyWed Dec 12, 2012 4:40 pm

Confit won't overlook him this time. He'll out strike him and win a decision.
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Carlos has way better hands than he did when they first matched up and I still don't see Rory being able to do much with his takedowns. All that time spent training for GSP should help Condit out a lot here

It didn't do much for him aside from a flash knockdown. Rory has the benefit of training WITH GSP for this fight, which is probably much more valuable than Carlos training FOR GSP.
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PostSubject: Re: Carlos Condit vs Rory MacDonald 2 targeted for UFC 158   Carlos Condit vs Rory MacDonald 2 targeted for UFC 158 EmptyWed Dec 12, 2012 4:45 pm

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Carlos has way better hands than he did when they first matched up and I still don't see Rory being able to do much with his takedowns. All that time spent training for GSP should help Condit out a lot here

It didn't do much for him aside from a flash knockdown. Rory has the benefit of training WITH GSP for this fight, which is probably much more valuable than Carlos training FOR GSP.
Are you sure GSP will train with Rory? The closer he gets to the title shot, shouldn't they separate more? Especially since Rory seems willing to fight GSP.
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I think Rory wins this barring another dramatic finish by Condit.
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Rory said he wouldn't fight GSP last I knew of? Did I miss something where he said he would fight for the title if GSP still had it?
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I'm sure he will. It will end up being "GSP had his time, it's time for him to step aside, it's my time" I bet.
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Carlos has way better hands than he did when they first matched up and I still don't see Rory being able to do much with his takedowns. All that time spent training for GSP should help Condit out a lot here

It didn't do much for him aside from a flash knockdown. Rory has the benefit of training WITH GSP for this fight, which is probably much more valuable than Carlos training FOR GSP.

He did hit a nice switch and was able to be competitive on the ground and not dominated. Rory's wrestling and top game are not on GSP's level. I imagine if he gets takedowns it will look a lot like the first fight where Carlos ties him up from the bottom and Rory really doesn't do much with top position. That was going to be enough to get him a decision the first time around though, so its possible it does it again.
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Rory said he wouldn't fight GSP last I knew of? Did I miss something where he said he would fight for the title if GSP still had it?
I could have sworn he said "I look up to the guy, but anyone across the cage from me is my opponent".
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Carlos has way better hands than he did when they first matched up and I still don't see Rory being able to do much with his takedowns. All that time spent training for GSP should help Condit out a lot here

It didn't do much for him aside from a flash knockdown. Rory has the benefit of training WITH GSP for this fight, which is probably much more valuable than Carlos training FOR GSP.

He did hit a nice switch and was able to be competitive on the ground and not dominated. Rory's wrestling and top game are not on GSP's level. I imagine if he gets takedowns it will look a lot like the first fight where Carlos ties him up from the bottom and Rory really doesn't do much with top position. That was going to be enough to get him a decision the first time around though, so its possible it does it again.

Rory was going to take the decision the first time around and he's only improved since then. I'm not sure I believe Condit's hands have become that much better since then either. One knockout over Dan Hardy with his hands since then doesn't exactly have Me convinced.

Also, competitve on the ground isn't something I equate to being blasted over and over by some of the most vicious GnP GSP has ever delivered in the cage. He had a couple flashes of competitive action in the form of a kick that caught GSP and a switch that got him nowhere. The rest of the time he was getting beaten to the punch alot and brutalized on his back.


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Rory said he wouldn't fight GSP last I knew of? Did I miss something where he said he would fight for the title if GSP still had it?
I could have sworn he said "I look up to the guy, but anyone across the cage from me is my opponent".

You could be right, I haven't seen anything to that effect but I don't really keep up with Rory Macdonald news as much because he just comes off as having no personality to Me.
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Rory said he wouldn't fight GSP last I knew of? Did I miss something where he said he would fight for the title if GSP still had it?
I could have sworn he said "I look up to the guy, but anyone across the cage from me is my opponent".

You could be right, I haven't seen anything to that effect but I don't really keep up with Rory Macdonald news as much because he just comes off as having no personality to Me.
I could be wrong, cause I'm not finding anything about him saying he is willing to fight GSP.
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I wonder if GSP will headline this card? Either vs Diaz or Hendricks.
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Rory said he wouldn't fight GSP last I knew of? Did I miss something where he said he would fight for the title if GSP still had it?
I could have sworn he said "I look up to the guy, but anyone across the cage from me is my opponent".

GSP just said in an interview recently that if Rory keeps winning, he promised him he will move up in weight and let Rory have the belt.

Said he will most likley fight Diaz and Hendricks than move up to 185 full time.
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Rory in an intewrview earlier this year said he would never fight GSP. What Ninja just said probably was the deal they made.
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For some reason, that all sounds kind of familiar to some dudes I heard a year back talk about not fighting each other.
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I wonder if GSP will headline this card? Either vs Diaz or Hendricks.
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Not bad I guess but I'd still prefer MacDonald vs. Hendricks and Condit vs. Kampman II.
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Not bad I guess but I'd still prefer MacDonald vs. Hendricks and Condit vs. Kampman II.

With Diaz looking definitely booked, I now agree. and lol
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Not bad I guess but I'd still prefer MacDonald vs. Hendricks and Condit vs. Kampman II.

With Diaz looking definitely booked, I now agree. and lol

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