Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:53 pm
GDPofDRC wrote:
Translation, fuck off Johnny Hendricks, go finish a fight.
Johnny does deserve the title fight.
But once again this is a business. Big money to be made in GSP vs. Diaz.
Plus Diaz vs. Condit was a draw IMO.
I am ok with either guy getting the fight.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:10 pm
I'm not okay with a guy who doesn't deserve the fight getting a free pass over a guy who does deserve the fight. It's the business of bullshit, not sports.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:25 pm
didnt somebody on this forum totally call this?
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:43 pm
KingsOwn19 wrote:
didnt somebody on this forum totally call this?
Yes, OU did.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:48 pm
Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:08 pm
This is whats wrong with the UFC and fighting. Complete BS. Diaz lost his last fight and now he gets a title shot. ITS BS you can talk your way into title fights. So undeserving.
Right? right...?
Wait that is what everyone said about Sonnen. Don't all you Sonnen haters and Diaz fans feel the same? No hypocrites right?
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:51 am
I don't blame them, might as well cash in now before Diaz goes off the rails and bumps into another wrestler.
I wonder who Hendricks faces now, MacDonald if he beats BJ ?
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:35 am
This is different from both Sonnen and Reem(if he would have got immediate shot). For one I personally think Nick beat Condit in his last fight. Besides that I obviously look at testing positive for marijuana metabolites differently then testing positive for roids or elevated testosterone. Obviously Nick is far more deserving of his shot then Sonnen is, he isn't jumping an entire division of more worthy and more competitive fighters like Chael is. But he is jumping 1 very deserving fighter. That's where the problem is. Johnny Hendricks should be next in line. If GSP is fighting at WW his next fight, it should be against Johnny Hendricks. This just doesn't feel right, even as a Diaz fan. I don't think it's because I'm also a Hendricks fan. It just doesn't seem right to give him the shot after the suspension, even if it's a suspension I don't really agree with. I don't like the Champion being able to pick his opponent. IMO if he says "I want Diaz". The repsonse from Dana should be, "you can have Diaz once you get past Hendricks". I would have less of a problem with Nick not fighting and waiting for Hendricks-GSP winner, although I would prefer he fight another fight before then. But IMO Johnny has done more then enough to be next in line. He did that in the cage.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:37 am
If GSP has never asked for an opponent to defend his title against then he should be allowed to this 1 time. Hendricks can fight the winner.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:47 am
As much as I want to see Nick fight gsp, Hendricks is way more deserving at this point. How many top fighters does a guy have to crumble with one punch to get a title shot, damn.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:48 am
jewzilla wrote:
Alright Alright Alrighttt
LOL
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:48 am
freakzilla wrote:
If GSP has never asked for an opponent to defend his title against then he should be allowed to this 1 time. Hendricks can fight the winner.
I don't think he should EVER be allowed to PICK his opponent. Especially when one has already EARNED it in the cage. That's how it's suppose to work. Contenders earn the title shot in the cage, Champions fight whoever earns the title shot. That's what keeps things moving the way they are suppose to. Not, well that guy over there sounds better, let's just go with him. That's not how Championship fights should be made.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:14 am
OU wrote:
freakzilla wrote:
If GSP has never asked for an opponent to defend his title against then he should be allowed to this 1 time. Hendricks can fight the winner.
I don't think he should EVER be allowed to PICK his opponent. Especially when one has already EARNED it in the cage. That's how it's suppose to work. Contenders earn the title shot in the cage, Champions fight whoever earns the title shot. That's what keeps things moving the way they are suppose to. Not, well that guy over there sounds better, let's just go with him. That's not how Championship fights should be made.
I think with Diaz it's ok because in his fight with Condit if there were 3 different judges we could've gotten a different winner.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:16 am
When it comes to guys like GSP and Silva who've cleaned out their divisions and have become borderline legends I feel they've earned the right to choose a fight every once in a while, GSP has done alot for the UFC and is their biggest draw, and it's not like he has not faced his fair share of #1 contenders over the years.
It's unfortunate that contenders emerged during GSP's absence but given the severe injury he went through I am willing to let him cash in.
Besides like it or not the UFC is a business and marketable fights will always trump contenders.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:27 am
Ali wrote:
When it comes to guys like GSP and Silva who've cleaned out their divisions and have become borderline legends I feel they've earned the right to choose a fight every once in a while, GSP has done alot for the UFC and is their biggest draw, and it's not like he has not faced his fair share of #1 contenders over the years.
It's unfortunate that contenders emerged during GSP's absence but given the severe injury he went through I am willing to let him cash in.
Besides like it or not the UFC is a business and marketable fights will always trump contenders.
I don't think GSP and Anderson are borderline legends. They are legends! the greatest 2 UFC fighters ever!
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:35 am
Ali wrote:
When it comes to guys like GSP and Silva who've cleaned out their divisions and have become borderline legends I feel they've earned the right to choose a fight every once in a while, GSP has done alot for the UFC and is their biggest draw, and it's not like he has not faced his fair share of #1 contenders over the years.
It's unfortunate that contenders emerged during GSP's absence but given the severe injury he went through I am willing to let him cash in.
Besides like it or not the UFC is a business and marketable fights will always trump contenders.
Completely disagree. I don't care if they win 100 fights in a row, they never have the right to pick their next opponent IMO. Never, ever, ever should the next challenger be "picked" by anyone. The next challenger should always be decided in the cage. They earn their shot and it's the Champions responsibility to fight the challenger. GSP's is not a match maker, he is a Championship fighter. How bad he wants to fight someone should not be a factor in who is most deserving. It's out of his hands, he can't control who earns the next shot. That is done IN THE CAGE.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:42 am
Disagree all you want but it's fact that the UFC is a business and their latest actions have validated that.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:44 am
Ali wrote:
Disagree all you want but it's fact that the UFC is a business and their latest actions have validated that.
Well they are attempting to be viewed as a legit, competitive sport. Ask Dana if long term if he wants to be more like the NFL or WWE. The NFL doesn't put the 2 most marketable teams in the Super Bowl. That is earned on the field.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:49 am
OU wrote:
Ali wrote:
Disagree all you want but it's fact that the UFC is a business and their latest actions have validated that.
Well they are attempting to be viewed as a legit, competitive sport. Ask Dana if long term if he wants to be more like the NFL or WWE. The NFL doesn't put the 2 most marketable teams in the Super Bowl. That is earned on the field.
The 2 best teams every season don't always play each other in the superbowl. First the schedules aren't fair and the same for every team and second the 2 best teams could be in the same division.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:02 pm
freakzilla wrote:
OU wrote:
Ali wrote:
Disagree all you want but it's fact that the UFC is a business and their latest actions have validated that.
Well they are attempting to be viewed as a legit, competitive sport. Ask Dana if long term if he wants to be more like the NFL or WWE. The NFL doesn't put the 2 most marketable teams in the Super Bowl. That is earned on the field.
The 2 best teams every season don't always play each other in the superbowl. First the schedules aren't fair and the same for every team and second the 2 best teams could be in the same division.
They earn it on the field. You win and you play for the Super Bowl. Win on the field and no one can stop you from playing for the Super Bowl. They will never pick another team to take your spot because it would make more money.
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Subject: Re: UFC boss says Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz likely if challenger accepts Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:20 pm
I'm okay with this fight, but Big Rig better get the winner. He is the most deserving. UFC needs to build him up more anyway for the casual fans. I say let him headline a fuel or fx show.
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