UFC Negotiating with Cyborg

Dana needs to quit being a shameless used carsalesman perving on Rousey and Rohna needs to quit being a pussy.

I guarantee if RR had an injury and decided she was done, it would be like, "Women's Division? We don't have a women's division. I HAVE NO SON!"

GDPofDRC wrote:

Dana needs to quit being a shameless used carsalesman perving on Rousey and Rohna needs to quit being a pussy.

I guarantee if RR had an injury and decided she was done, it would be like, "Women's Division? We don't have a women's division. I HAVE NO SON!"

I don't consider this to be a pussy move by Ronda in any way....and I hate that bitch at this point.

If she wasn't running her mouth, I wouldn't either, I'd consider it smart.

GDPofDRC wrote:

If she wasn't running her mouth, I wouldn't either, I'd consider it smart.

Two dogs barking from opposite sides of the fence.

Cyborg was responding to the absurd claim that Dana made about her being scared.

She can't enlist the help of Dolce to clean up her diet and lose another 5 pounds for the only payday that is going to exist for her in the sport? I'd think you have to pretty much starve yourself to make this happen for the $ more than anything else. They would headline something and it would generate some strong buzz

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/2/13/3986014/ufcs-dana-white-on-cris-cyborg-shes-irrelevant

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"I'm telling you right now, she wants nothing to do with this fight with Ronda (Rousey). This is the biggest show in the world. We're working with her to get her a deal or whatever. When you send a letter from your lawyer and your doctor saying I will die if I try to make 135 (pounds), it's just the goofiest thing. I've never seen anything like it in the fight business.

"Okay, so you don't want to make 135, but you want to talk about fighting Ronda. First of all, you tested positive for steroids and got stripped of your title. And you're trying to talk about how Ronda doesn't want to fight you, but she's the champion at 135. If Ronda goes and does the fight at 140 and does the fight at 140, it's not even for a title. The fight just makes no sense.

"So what happens is, so we'll figure something out where Cyborg gets some fights. Ronda defends her title a few times. Then maybe Ronda moves up to whatever and fights... they want nothing to do with that, wants nothing to do with it. It's wacky beyond wackiness.

"There is no 145-pound women's division. She's under contract with us, so we'd get her some fights somewhere else. We get her some fights. Let's play this 135-pound thing out and see what happens, see where this thing goes. No.

"Cyborg is pretty much irrelevant right now. She really is. She's irrelevant. Go out there and win some fights again, get your name back, stay clean, stay off some steroids and get your career back on track and then we'll talk. But for her to think that everybody should move around and jump through hoops for her is insane."

lol, Dana is bullshitting hard and he knows it, had trouble hiding it in the interview, kinda funny.

GDPofDRC wrote:

lol, Dana is bullshitting hard and he knows it, had trouble hiding it in the interview, kinda funny.

I don't even really understand what he was saying. Is he saying he offered Cyborg to remain on contract with Zuffa but they would find her fights in other organizations? That's what it seems like to me. He wants Ronda to establish a 135lb weight class before she challenges Cyborg? Sounds like he is saying he wants to protect Ronda and get a 135lb division established before risking Ronda losing to Cyborg. I don't get it really. Cyborg would fight for Zuffa at Invicta?

Having Ronda and Cyborg fight at a catchweight or 145 doesn't make any sense right now. They are doing the 135 division because it has the most talent by far. Having the champ fight out of the weight class straight away isn't plausible if they are trying to legitimately establish the division. Dana said if Ronda won a few fights in a row and beat up some girls then they would look at maybe something like that but until that happens Cyborg can fight somewhere else. If she can't make 135 there really isn't a place for her. That's how things go

The only thing they are legitimately trying to establish is Rousey as a celebrity, keeping her away from the highest level of talent in women's MMA is the method.

Dana crying and ripping an athlete when he/now she does not do exactly what he wants. This is new.

GDPofDRC wrote:

The only thing they are legitimately trying to establish is Rousey as a celebrity, keeping her away from the highest level of talent in women's MMA is the method.

She fights in by far the best division in women's MMA. Just because she's still significantly better than everyone else doesn't mean they are trying to protect her. What sense does signing Tate, McMann, Davis, and probably more in the future since they said they had 10 names in mind right now make if you're going to make the champ fight someone who isn't capable of making the division? I agree that they should build this up a bit and if a catchweight fight opens up down the road with Cyborg then cool. This coming from someone who thinks Ronda beats Cyborg convincingly anyway

Cyborg will be fighting April 5th for Invicta vs. some chick

KingsOwn19 wrote:

Cyborg will be fighting April 5th for Invicta vs. some chick

Gold help that random chick.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/5/9/4314718/cris-cyborg-passed-on-chance-to-fight-ronda-rousey-over-money-not

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While (match weight) was at the center of most conversations in the media regarding the inability to make the Cyborg-Rousey fight, it was not the deal-breaker it's been reported to be.

During the ongoing negotiations, which lingered for about two months, the promotion agreed to pay for the services of a dieting and nutrition consultant like Dolce. But there were other points that the two sides could not agree on.

The biggest issue, according to Cyborg's management firm Primetime 360, was Zuffa treating Cyborg as a bit player rather than an event co-star.

Dave Meltzer commented in the subscription only Wrestling Observer:

The problem is, and this is huge, is that after Cyborg beat Carano, Cyborg's subsequent fights garnered very little interest. It surprised me seeing how big the Carano fight was, the reaction, the ratings, the attendance, etc. While Carano was clearly the star, one would have thought Cyborg would have come out of such a big win on the first women's main event that set record Showtime MMA ratings as a big star herself. There are obvious conclusions you can draw as to why that didn't happen, but I think UFC recognizes that it didn't.

Rousey vs. Cyborg can be promoted with the UFC's marketing behind it as the biggest women's fight in history and insiders may feel Cyborg is still the best fighter, although the steroid issue as it pertains to this fight is huge. Because women don't produce the level of testosterone as men, a woman on steroids has far more of a competitive edge against someone clean than a man would under the same circumstances. We can all play pretend, but Cyborg did fail a test, and even if she hadn't, photos of Brazilian handball star Cristiane Justino and fighter Cris Cyborg can challenge any before-and-after Barry Bonds photos.

Cyborg did pass all her tests prior to her Invicta fight last month, and she was tested during some of her other fights. But given the nature and limitations of testing when you know in advance when you are tested, that doesn't mean a whole lot.

Today, Cyborg on the outside is not nearly the star that Liz Carmouche or Miesha Tate are. But if she signs with UFC, she will be. One can only argue, and this is a valid one, that her management should have come up with a long-term battle plan for her to naturally get her bodyweight to 145-150, where the cut to 135 wouldn't be harsh. She would lose muscle and strength, but that's part of the game, and it's hard for people to have sympathy because of the belief of how she got that much muscle and strength. I can recall talking to Marloes Coenen, after she had come-from-behind to beat Carmouche, and she was remarking that Carmouche was deceptively strong. "But not Cyborg strong," noting Cyborg had the strength of the male fighters she's trained with.

The fight is never going to happen, Rousey is way too profitable for the UFC to risk it.

Ali* wrote:

The fight is never going to happen, Rousey is way too profitable for the UFC to risk it.

Looks to me like if Tito wasn't retarded we could have had that fight. Cyborg's mistake for highering a moron like Tito. I'd rather be managed by MC Hammer.

OU wrote:

Ali* wrote:

The fight is never going to happen, Rousey is way too profitable for the UFC to risk it.

Looks to me like if Tito wasn't retarded we could have had that fight. Cyborg's mistake for highering a moron like Tito. I'd rather be managed by MC Hammer.

Not buying that Tito excuse if the UFC really wanted Cyborg vs. Rousey it would have happened already.

Ali* wrote:

OU wrote:

Ali* wrote:

The fight is never going to happen, Rousey is way too profitable for the UFC to risk it.

Looks to me like if Tito wasn't retarded we could have had that fight. Cyborg's mistake for highering a moron like Tito. I'd rather be managed by MC Hammer.

Not buying that Tito excuse if the UFC really wanted Cyborg vs. Rousey it would have happened already.

I don't agree. I think there is plenty of blame on the Cyborg/Tito side of things. Neither seem to be very bright IMO.

OU wrote:

Ali* wrote:

OU wrote:

Ali* wrote:

The fight is never going to happen, Rousey is way too profitable for the UFC to risk it.

Looks to me like if Tito wasn't retarded we could have had that fight. Cyborg's mistake for highering a moron like Tito. I'd rather be managed by MC Hammer.

Not buying that Tito excuse if the UFC really wanted Cyborg vs. Rousey it would have happened already.

I don't agree. I think there is plenty of blame on the Cyborg/Tito side of things. Neither seem to be very bright IMO.

I wouldn't think you of all people would fall for Dana and the Zuffa PR machine.

Ali* wrote:

OU wrote:

Ali* wrote:

OU wrote:

Ali* wrote:

The fight is never going to happen, Rousey is way too profitable for the UFC to risk it.

Looks to me like if Tito wasn't retarded we could have had that fight. Cyborg's mistake for highering a moron like Tito. I'd rather be managed by MC Hammer.

Not buying that Tito excuse if the UFC really wanted Cyborg vs. Rousey it would have happened already.

I don't agree. I think there is plenty of blame on the Cyborg/Tito side of things. Neither seem to be very bright IMO.

I wouldn't think you of all people would fall for Dana and the Zuffa PR machine.

We are talking about idiots on both sides here. I won't ignore the fact that Tito is a moron just because Dana is as well. I personally think there is blame to go around on both sides.

Dana has all the leverage here, he has a star in Rhonda, he has all the other females at that weight, he has the UFC name.

Cyborg has no interesting fights outside the UFC, no interesting fights at 145, UFC included. and she has a positive roid test.

Do hope the fight does eventually happen. I think it is the MMA fight I would most like to see.