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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:48 pm | |
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| | | jewzilla Blue Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:58 am | |
| I really hope this happens. I would love to see cyborg smash Ronda's face and shut her mouth. | |
| | | bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:47 am | |
| Ronda taps her the same as everyone else | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:58 am | |
| yeah, after they completely deplete her by making her cut too much weight it should be easy money for Ronda.
Cyborg would be smart to tell them to fuck off but money talks. | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:25 am | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:01 am | |
| - jewzilla wrote:
- I really hope this happens. I would love to see cyborg smash Ronda's face and shut her mouth.
+1 I hope the weight cut doesn't drain Cristiane too much because Ronda needs humbled ASAP. I'd also love to see Ronda lose just to see how enthusiastic the UFC would still be about having a women division. |
| | | acccardinal12 Gold Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:31 pm | |
| Doesn't she walk around at like 150lbs? I don't think the weight cut would be too bad if.she has time. I say Cyborg beats her ass either way. | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:48 am | |
| - Quote :
- "That was never said!" he wrote. "'Cyborg' will fight her anytime, anywhere at 145. Cris said she would kill herself trying to make 135. I won't allow it, (and) neither should the UFC or Dana. Cris wants the fight, fans want the fight, and so does the UFC.
"If Ronda is such a great fighter, why doesn't she fight at the weight she started at? This is no different than (Anderson) Silva cutting to 170 to fight GSP. It's not healthy, period." http://mmajunkie.com/news/2012/12/dana-white-tito-ortiz-advised-cyborg-santos-not-to-face-ronda-rousey |
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:59 am | |
| PPV Main Event? seriously? |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:06 pm | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- PPV Main Event? seriously?
Title fights usually are. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:08 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- PPV Main Event? seriously?
Title fights usually are. Barao cs McDonald should headline this and Rousey vs sacrificial lamb should not. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:24 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- OU wrote:
- freakzilla wrote:
- PPV Main Event? seriously?
Title fights usually are. Barao cs McDonald should headline this and Rousey vs sacrificial lamb should not. I 100% agree that Barao vs Mayday is being screwed over on FUEL. I'd rather they switch the title fights. But I don't get any outrage with a title fight being the headline over a non title fight. | |
| | | SOKO Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:50 am | |
| - jewzilla wrote:
- I really hope this happens. I would love to see cyborg smash Ronda's face and shut her mouth.
yeah ronda runs her cocksucker and seems arrogant but a cheater she isnt. Fuck cyborg.........least she could do is admit her fault but to cheat and deny it........... | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:04 pm | |
| Cyborg will crush Ronda then will go on to pose nude for Hustler. |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:30 pm | |
| http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/01/ortiz-going-to-be-tough-but-santos-might-make-ufcs-135-pound-limit - Quote :
- "It's going to be tough," Ortiz said. "When she cuts down to 145, she's shredded. To cut another 10 pounds? I don't know. I've been cutting weight for almost 20 years, and it's tough to do, to get 10 extra pounds off.
"But at the same time, if (MMA weight-cutting/diet consultant) Mike Dolce can do it with her in a healthy way and a healthy manner, and a doctor can prove we're making it the right way, let the fight happen. I want to see the fight. I know all the fans want to see the fight, so let's make it happen." | |
| | | Ali Brown Belt
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:33 pm | |
| I really hope Cristiane can make the cut without draining herself because Ronda needs her arse kicked ASAP. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:49 pm | |
| Ronda Rousey, world class Olympian at 155 pounds. Refuses to fight at 145 pounds against the best women's fighter in the world. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:53 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- Ronda Rousey, world class Olympian at 155 pounds.
Refuses to fight at 145 pounds against the best women's fighter in the world.
I don't like this argument at all. I'm all for seeing Ronda get knocked out. But Cyborg has been cheating for years. She doesn't deserve that fight either. | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:58 pm | |
| Cheater vs a douche and a ducker, I see balance. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:03 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- Cheater vs a douche and a ducker, I see balance.
Yeah I'm all for the fight. I just don't think either one deserves any special consideration. Ronda is clearly better suited for 135 and Cyborg for 145. I wouldn't go out of my way to cater to a cheater either. Let Dolche work his magic, hopefully Cyborg still has enough energy to knock a few teeth loose in Ronda's head. | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:32 pm | |
| Match made in Heaven. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:26 pm | |
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- There have been more than just a few questions about Cris “Cyborg” Santos and her possible move down to 135 pounds for a chance to fight in the UFC and to face women’s champ Ronda Rousey.
When recently appearing on UFC Tonight, former light heavyweight champion Tito Ortiz, who serves as one of Cyborg’s MMA managers, commented that he knows a cut to 135 pounds for the former Strikeforce champion would be awfully rough. He even mentioned the possibility of a warm-up fight for Cyborg once she makes the move and debuts in the UFC before facing Rousey with the championship on the line.
The man that will be in charge of getting Cyborg down to 135 pounds will be famed MMA nutritionist and weight cutting guru Mike Dolce, and he’s excited for the challenge and the chance to start working with a high-level athlete like Santos.
“I have every intention of working with Cris Cyborg once her UFC contract is finalized. Right now we’re circling the drain, we’re waiting for the go ahead, but Cris she’s been on vacation in Brazil. If she was here in the United States, she and I already would have been working together. So she’ll be back, her contract will be signed hopefully soon, and as soon as she has a date and an opponent, then it’s game on, I will be working with Cris Cyborg,” Dolce told MMAWeekly.com this week.
Dolce has a history of working with fighters either making a move to a new weight class for the first time, or helping previously troubled athletes cut weight more effectively and in a healthier manner than just sweating it out in a sauna.
He believes his track record is proof enough that he could get Cyborg down to 135 pounds in a healthy way, and she’d be as good at that weight as she ever was in her previous weight class of 145 pounds.
“There’s a couple ways to answer and the first way is going to be a little less than humble – I’m the only guy in the world that can get Cris Cyborg on weight and healthy. I only say that because I have the history. I’m only going to point to my resume when you look at Rampage (Jackson). Rampage was 260 pounds when he came into the fight with Lyoto Machida. He came out there and made 205 pounds easily and he beat Machida. Johny Hendricks is 215 pounds, started working with me, he’s beat (Jon) Fitch, (Josh) Koscheck and (Martin) Kampmann. Johny probably is the biggest welterweight in the UFC, and he’s destined to be a world champion. Thiago Alves, Chael Sonnen was 233 pounds six weeks before the Michael Bisping fight in Chicago,” Dolce explained.
“Nobody can say that any of my athletes ever look unhealthy or ever underperform as a result of their weight cut.”
Dolce had a chance to meet with Cyborg in Los Angeles before she traveled home to Brazil recently, and he knows the kind of unlocked potential she has inside. He hopes to have the key to unleash the beast, and make Cyborg the best 135-pound fighter on the planet.
“She’ll be 135 pounds, it will be the healthiest she’s been her entire career, and it will be the best performance of her entire career or I would not have taken the job. I can’t risk having an athlete underperform as a result of a weight cut. I would never jeopardize an athlete’s health. A lot of athletes come to me and they want me to help them drop a weight class or two, and I’ve turned a lot of huge names down because it’s just not safe, it’s not healthy,” said Dolce.
“At 135 pounds, Cris Cyborg will be the best of her career. She will be the greatest female fighter in the world. She will achieve legendary status at 135 pounds. At 145, she’s too heavy, she’s slower at 145. She’ll be faster at 135, she’ll be more reactive, more flexible, more mobile, and she’ll be stronger. She’ll produce more force per pound of her body weight than she can at 145; I guarantee it.”
As far as the whole idea of a “warm up fight,” Dolce doesn’t get into negotiations for his fighters when it comes to contracts or fight promotion, he leaves that up to them and their management teams. In his mind however, Cyborg won’t need any warming up once she’s working with him and making the move to 135 pounds.
If Cyborg fights Ronda Rousey first, Dolce believes she will be crowned the new UFC women’s bantamweight champion.
“Cris Cyborg could be the world champion today,” said Dolce. “Whenever Cris fights for the title, she’ll win the title. So if they want one fight or five fights, whoever she fights, she’ll beat. Whether it’s Ronda Rousey for the title, or it’s Sara McMann or Miesha Tate, but there’s a lot of tough girls, but whoever she fights, she’ll beat.” | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:07 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:15 pm | |
| It's nothing but obvious Cyborg is Dana White's worst nightmare and he has been doing absolutely what Rousey wants, keeping Christine away from her. | |
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| Subject: Re: UFC Negotiating with Cyborg Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:21 pm | |
| I honestly think both should just shut the fuck up about the fight for now. Ronda doesn't need to go up and Cyborg can't come down. So it's pointless for Ronda to taunt Cyborg and it's just as pointless for Cyborg to call out Ronda. You can't make the weight and she has no reason to come up. Time to move on. | |
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