Who would win? Cyborg vs Ronda(140lbs)

Catchweight of 140lbs. Who wins?

No doubt in my mind it's a 1 round fight. Either Cyborg by KO or Ronda by sub. No other possible outcome.

Dont think Ronda is really that great. Yes her arm bar is awesome, aswell as her Judo, but I think Cyborg would smash through her face before she could even get in close enough for a takedown. There is no other female fighter like Cyborg. Cyborg fights like a man. Ronda fights like a girl, a very talented girl.

Depends how Cyborg comes back without steroids.

Talked to a guy at my gym who fought K1 in Japan for a long time. He said damn near every pro fighter juices. And when they get caught, they dont quit using, they just try harder to mask it. He works with Guy Mezger recruiting for LD now. Badass dude.

jewzilla wrote:

Dont think Ronda is really that great. Yes her arm bar is awesome, aswell as her Judo, but I think Cyborg would smash through her face before she could even get in close enough for a takedown. There is no other female fighter like Cyborg. Cyborg fights like a man. Ronda fights like a girl, a very talented girl.

It's hard not to be impressed by 9-0(including amateur) with 9 armbars all in the first round. Ronda annoys me, but that's impressive.

Thats why I said her armbar is impressive. I am not saying she sucks or anything at all. Girl would whoop my ass. With that said she isnt great. She has yet to face a shebeast like Cyborg.

Rousey has proven a lot to me in her past two fights. She handled seasoned pros in the same manner she did novice pros. But, I think Cyborgs game would of say her defeat Kauffmann and Tate in similar speed but dissimilar violence. Today I still think Cyborg can finish her, but Rousey would clearly be very capable of winning.

I'm curious to the physical strength advantage. Will Cyborg be less ripped and weaker when she comesback? Especially if it was a catchweight, how much strength will she lose? Ronda seems to have a powerful core. Would Cyborg be strong enough to avoid being tossed to the ground and/or avoid the armbar? Tate managed to stay alive for almost a full round, if Cyborg can stay on her feet for that same amount of time she could put Ronda away. I lean toward Cyborg, but it's like 60-40 right now for me.

After the way Ronda handled Kaufman(who I thought would be her biggest test to date) I think Ronda can take Cyborg down. I'll go 60/40 Ronda by sub.

Ronda.

Cyborg, with no roids(presumably), after long layoff, with a deeper weight cut. 3 real hurdles to overcome. Especially vs's what would be, by far, the best athlete she would ever face. While, Ronda has squared off against gold medal judo fighters.

And I've seen lesser fighters then Ronda go rnds with Cyborg. So im not into the "this goes no more then one rnd" theory. More likely that Ronda finishes Cyborg early then the other way around imo.

And Ronda keeps getting better.

Ronda tools Cyborg, I guess everyone has forgotten Cyborg in the clinch vs Carano, ya know when Carano accidentally fell into full mount twice from the clinch.

Cyborg bullies in the clinch and has looked bad in the clinch vs Carano and Coenen damn near Judo threw Cyborg from the clinch.
Rondas technique overcomes GuyBorgs roid rage

jewzilla wrote:

Dont think Ronda is really that great. Yes her arm bar is awesome, aswell as her Judo, but I think Cyborg would smash through her face before she could even get in close enough for a takedown. There is no other female fighter like Cyborg. Cyborg fights like a man. Ronda fights like a girl, a very talented girl.

gotta disagree, Carano, Coenen and Shayna Bazsler all initiated the clinch on Cyborg, Carano got full mount, COenen threatened with judo throws and Bazsler even nearly arm bar and heel hooked her.

Go back and watch some of Cyborgs matches and see how many opportunities are there for someone as skilled as ROusey.

Agree with Bird on Cyborg's bullying. And she has been succesful in many instances cause she is just physically stronger then those girls. Ronda is an olympic athlete.

agree captain, went back last night and watched 4 Cyborg fights, the Carano, Coenen, Bazsler and Takahishi fights, there were multiple occasions were Cyborg got tripped up in the clinch.

The thing is Cyborg loves clinch fighting, its where she bullies people and normally does her best. She had that nearly cost her against Carano and Coenen threatened her with throws and submission. I really don't see Cyborg taking a year off, having to piss clean and then drop weight, only to go and bully Rousey. Just don't see it happen, I (we) have seen Carano full mount Cyborg out of the clinch.

If Rousey does that, its over. I would and will bet the farm on ROusey if this happens.

the thing is, Cyborg got popped for illegal substances that helped her lose weight making 145... how is she, without the help of illegals, going to make 140?

not healthy, but if Ronda had stayed at her original weight, I'd give it to Cyborg by smash

killerofchicken wrote:

the thing is, Cyborg got popped for illegal substances that helped her lose weight making 145... how is she, without the help of illegals, going to make 140?

not healthy, but if Ronda had stayed at her original weight, I'd give it to Cyborg by smash

killer that is actually a false narrative going around. She was popped with muscle building supplements that do not add weight. She was adding muscle while not worrying about the weight.

Keep in mind where your source of just being diuretics is coming from, the very person that was busted, Cyborg.

The supplements she was popped for are not just weight cutting diuretics that is bullshit she is attempting to peddle.

Stanozolol is a synthetic anabolic steroid derived from testosterone.

Stanozolol is usually considered a safer choice for female bodybuilders in that its anabolic effects predominate over its androgenic effects, although virilization and masculinization are still very common even at low doses.

Stanozolol is one of the anabolic steroids commonly used as a performance enhancing drug and is banned from use in sports competition under the auspices of the International Association of Athletics Federations and many other sporting bodies. Additionally, stanozolol has also been used in US horse racing.

Stanozolol is commonly used by athletes and bodybuilders alike to lose fat while retaining lean body mass. It is usually used in a "cutting cycle", to help preserve lean body mass while metabolizing adipose (fat tissue).

This is the same steroid associated with names like Barry Bonds, Rafael Palmeiro, and Roger Clemens in MLB, 100 meter sprint Olympian Ben Johnson (stripped of gold medal), notable MMA names such as Phil Baroni, Chris Leben, and Tim Sylvia (stripped of UFC title). Oh yeah... and Triple Crown HORSE Big Brown!

Stanozol is a body building steroid, don't believe shit that Cyborg tries to pass along.

I don't know how the hell to post gifs so look at the first 2 gifs on this page that I link.
Carano falling into full mount, and raining punches and then standing up letting Cyborg out of another full mount

http://www.lockflow.com/forum/topic/carano-vs-cyborg-gifs

It's a common body building drug because you lose fat while retaining lean body mass, also useful for sports, especially won where you have to cut weight and cannot afford to have the errant pound of unwanted weight.

GDPofDRC wrote:

It's a common body building drug because you lose fat while retaining lean body mass, also useful for sports, especially won where you have to cut weight and cannot afford to have the errant pound of unwanted weight.

exactly, which in my opinion throws the whole, oh she needed it for cutting weight.

No she was cheating, cutting weight and using a substance to retain muscle mass

Yep, thus warranted suspension. But I still don't think she would be very good trying to cut to 135 considering some of this.

If cyborg is still the same cyborg, my money would be on her. It would be both of their toughest fights to date though. This fight gets me ten times more hyped then Gina vs Cyborg, and i couldn't wait for that one.

I agree on all but the hype. Carano can draw better because the sex she is selling is better.