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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:52 am | |
| was it just me, or did Spider hit Chael with an illegal knee. He was a downed opponent imo. I thought it was weird that nobody mentioned it either as being close. Cover up! 1st Hathaway vs Diego and now this. Bob Arum has definately invested in Zuffa stock. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:57 am | |
| He hit him in the chest which is legal. |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:03 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:27 pm | |
| It was a knee to the body. |
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Primetyme199 Brown Belt
Posts : 2916 Join date : 2009-07-30 Location : NJ
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:06 pm | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:08 pm | |
| - Primetyme199 wrote:
Clearly knee to chest, but if the area right above the knee hits the face first, isn't that a kick to the head? Also Silva greased and grabbed the short. I can't believe the media or UFC isn't making a bigger deal about this. | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:12 pm | |
| Contact with the part above the knee to the face is allowed. |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:15 pm | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Contact with the part above the knee to the face is allowed.
How do you figure that? | |
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Ludo Bronze Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : The Prodigy, The Great, Viking Dahmer, The Phenom Posts : 6474 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:36 pm | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Contact with the part above the knee to the face is allowed.
Since when? | |
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killerofchicken Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Mauricio Shogun Rua, BJ Penn, AXE MURDERER,Fedor, CroCop, Vitor Belfort, JDS Posts : 16162 Join date : 2010-02-28 Age : 38 Location : Iowa
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:44 pm | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Contact with the part above the knee to the face is allowed.
i doubt that! but either way, the knee landed to the chest and then the follow through pushed andys thigh into cheals covering face... legal knee, though it looked illegal live | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:20 pm | |
| - freakzilla wrote:
- Contact with the part above the knee to the face is allowed.
No it isn't | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:21 pm | |
| Not surprised by short grabbing or the questionable knee, silva was fired up but yes lavigne really let everything go . Think the short grabbing was as clear as if he had held the fence | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:05 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- Primetyme199 wrote:
Clearly knee to chest, but if the area right above the knee hits the face first, isn't that a kick to the head?
Also Silva greased and grabbed the short. I can't believe the media or UFC isn't making a bigger deal about this. You're shocked they didnt make a big deal out of it? After UFC and the fans swept GSP's grease bath under the rug? That was all over his body, during the fight, and he didnt get caught until afterwards. Especially considering Penn was trying to work rubber guard much of the fight and his leg kept slipping off. Must be because it's BJ Penn getting screwed. Also, they didnt catch GSP until after. Anderson just got the vaseline that was already rubbed into his face and rubbed it on his shoulders and such...Yves caught it and wiped it down. Didnt appear to play a factor in round one and if it were to play a factor it would have worked against Anderson as he would have not been able to hold on Chael as easily...but it was resolved before the fight started. If GSP is no cause for a legit uproar and BJ was just labled a crybaby, then no way should anybody complain about Anderson wiping a small amount of vaseline which was already rubbed in and then having it promptly wiped off before a fight started. I've seen Anderson do that a few times. Commissions never raised an issue until last night. As for the shorts grabbing, yes..blatant. I saw him do it twice. Once on a break and i forgot what was going on the second time. I don't think either played a part in Chael failing to get the takedown in round 2 and Chael lost because he tried a spinning back fist and fell on his ass. Anderson always takes advantage of stupid mistakes. | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:11 pm | |
| im still confused why you think Hathaway-Sanchez was a fix, beast.
It blows your credibility on the issue of shadiness. | |
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cascade_run Purple Belt
Posts : 1076 Join date : 2009-09-12
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:32 pm | |
| The knee was close, and it just shows how good Silva is, pinpoint accuracy with anything he throws, I did think the short grab allowed him to hit Chael with a few punches that possibly may have stunned Chael, but when it comes down to it, it is a fight and shit does happen | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:22 am | |
| The knee might of found some face somewhere, but the blow was absorbed by the chest I think. I'd be surprised if Silva was not short grabbing, I think a lot of guys do. | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:04 am | |
| It does happen a lot..but people tend to be very selective of when they want to rage about it.
I remember Rashad pretty much saved himself from getting finished by Rampage by pulling himself off his back by tugging on Page's shorts. | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:42 am | |
| - KingsOwn19 wrote:
- im still confused why you think Hathaway-Sanchez was a fix, beast.
It blows your credibility on the issue of shadiness. Im joke.g about hathaway. I was drunk that night | |
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OU Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Diaz Bros, Wandy, Ace, Hendo, JDS, Lima Bros,Uncle Creepy, long live Iceman Posts : 43280 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Lawton, Oklahoma
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:48 am | |
| http://www.mmamania.com/2012/7/9/3145921/luke-rockhold-anderson-silva-ufc-148-chael-sonnen-dirty-greasing-shorts - Quote :
- "I call it like I see it and [the win] just looked dirty to me. [Silva] greased himself again. After the Vitor [Belfort] fight I saw him grease himself. I wasn't very fond of that first one. He did it again, blatantly. And then the shorts grab. And then finally the knee, it ended up legal, but it looked like bad intentions. All that together, it just wasn't very champion-like for me. I want to see a respectful champion out there. I know emotions might get high with all the crap talking, but you gotta keep those separate and gotta fight clean."
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:02 pm | |
| - bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
- KingsOwn19 wrote:
- im still confused why you think Hathaway-Sanchez was a fix, beast.
It blows your credibility on the issue of shadiness. Im joke.g about hathaway. I was drunk that night I had a customer pop in when i posted this earlier. The night Diego git beat i was drinking and was dead set in that night being fixed. I've watched it since then and know i was wrong. I just make a joke of it now. I do however think the fight shoulda been stopped and Silva shoulda got a warning. I was in awe when he started greasing also. He did it like it was all good. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:00 pm | |
| Illegal Knee? Look if Silva wanted to knee Sonnen in the face then he would of and really hurt him a lot worse then the knee to the chest did. He aimed low and hit on target, Sonnen even brought his face down, reactionary probably, and the meat of the blow is still at the impact point, the knee, not the top of the thigh. If he had attempted to throw it at his face he would of aimed higher because Sonnen's face was a few inches higher when he approached with the strike. | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:09 pm | |
| Looks like a knee to the face to me. It also looks illegal. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:20 pm | |
| The knee is a non issue. Or it should be.
Section 15.a.17:
15) FOULS:
A) The following acts constitute fouls in a contest or exhibition of mixed martial arts and may result in penalties, at the discretion of the referee, if committed:
17) Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent
Look at the picture. Watch the fight replay again. Look at the .gif. Ask your auntie. Ask Chale. That knee hits the chest. There is no rule that describes the top of a thigh making contact to the face when a knee the chest is thrown and landed. It is at the discretion of the referee as to weather or not a kick or knee constitutes a penalty and the ref was in the perfect position and saw it go down and made the correct call. | |
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acccardinal12 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Cung Le, BJ Penn, Mayhem, Chael Sonnen, Anthony Pettis Posts : 10925 Join date : 2009-12-04 Age : 48 Location : Kentuckiana
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:51 pm | |
| Just because you bring rules and big ol words out doesn't mean it ain't illegal.
The bbc hath spoken! | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: illegal knee Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:52 pm | |
| you really think his KNEE hit Sonnen's face? you're still drunk | |
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