Former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who orchestrated the program, has been suspended indefinitely. Team general manager Mickey Loomis also faces an eight-game suspension and a $500,000 fine.
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:05 pm
DAAAAMMN!
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:21 pm
I got no problem with it.
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• The Saints are fined $500,000. In addition, because the violation involves a competitive rule, the Saints forfeit their second-round picks in the 2012 and 2013 NFL drafts.
• Saints coach Sean Payton is suspended without pay for the 2012 season, effective April 1.
• Saints general manager Mickey Loomis is suspended without pay for the first eight regular-season games of the 2012 season.
• Former Saints (and current St. Louis Rams) defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is suspended indefinitely from the NFL, effective immediately. Commissioner Roger Goodell will review Williams' status at the conclusion of the 2012 season and consider whether to reinstate him, and, if so, on what terms.
• Saints assistant head coach Joe Vitt is suspended without pay for the first six regular-season games of the 2012 season.
• The Saints and individuals disciplined are expected to participate in efforts to develop programs that will instruct on the need for respect for the game and those who participate in it, on principles of fair play, safety and sportsmanship, and to ensure that bounties will not be part of football at any level.
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:26 pm
I'm just surprised he got that long of a suspension. I guess they really wanted to send a message.
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:39 pm
A bit harsh, but in the Joe Paterno age of the head coach being the most responsible for the acts of others..not shocking.
Funny that NO were the head hunter team and the Niners injured half their team and Whitner made Pierre Thomas shit his pants.
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:49 pm
Why do you always have to bring your team into every conversation? I'm not saying it to be a dick or mean or anything but you do even when the topic isn't even about them.
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:57 pm
Josh makes a good point.
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:12 pm
i adressed the topic
josh is just hating
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:16 am
they should have to pay medical bills to anyone injured through this practice
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:19 am
i was a bit suprised at the severity of the punishments at first but i suppose with all these law suits coming from left, right and centre the NFL couldn't afford to piss about with this one.
it's difficult to argue with, it's a rough enough sport as it is without players deliberately going out to cause injury to other plyers
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:28 am
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:35 pm
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:57 am
I guess there is some audio out there now that started hitting the web last night. 12 min long video, atleast most of it is suppose to be from a pregame speech against the 49ers. Greg Williams talks about paying fines for hitting certain players in the head like Smith and Gore. Also talks about trying to tear Crabtrees ACL. Tells his players to hit the head as much as possible. Hit people out of bounds. Hit people in the head in a pile as much as possible. Suppose to be some fucked up shit.
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:37 am
Short version. [youtube][/youtube]
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hmm, i guess the niners had a little more relavance to this topic than Josh gave due...so allow me to once again note that the Saints had placed bounties on Niners(they also did it in the preaseason, as the niners had complained about the Saints blitz packages being a little overzealous and frequent for a preseason scrap)..yet it was their players being carted off the field. What a humbling experience that game must of been for Williams and their "bounty hunters". Not only did Vernon Davis and Frank Gore mow down their defenders like it was running with the bulls, Donte Whitner pretty much killed Pierre Thomas..he'll never be the same again. They did it for free as well. Don't place a bounty on a brick wall.
Take out the head...no problem
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:09 am
it sounds like williams said the same things about many opponents over the years, the comments about busting up peoples ACL's, rolling ankles over the pile and encouraging late hits to the head were pretty disgusting. i wouldn't be suprised if criminal charges are brought.
i'm also shocked whitner wasn't fined or banned for that hit on thomas, that was exactly the type of hit the NFL is trying to iron out and looks as blatant as anything i've seen. james harrison would've been banned for that hahaha.
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the ruled it legal because he wasnt defenseless. Thomas had already ran some yards. I think that is the only exception for helmet to helmet. Running backs still arent protected, they are pretty much fair game out there..which is funny considering they have the shortest shelf life even without all the protection QB's and recievers get.
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the ruled it legal because he wasnt defenseless. Thomas had already ran some yards. I think that is the only exception for helmet to helmet. Running backs still arent protected, they are pretty much fair game out there..which is funny considering they have the shortest shelf life even without all the protection QB's and recievers get.
my bad, i thought hits to the head and leading with the helmet were completely taboo these days. i didn't realise it was limited to QB's and defenseless receivers.
thats crazy, running backs take enough of a pounding as it is without it being legal to hit them in the head as well.
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:02 am
cheekynffc wrote:
KingsOwn19 wrote:
the ruled it legal because he wasnt defenseless. Thomas had already ran some yards. I think that is the only exception for helmet to helmet. Running backs still arent protected, they are pretty much fair game out there..which is funny considering they have the shortest shelf life even without all the protection QB's and recievers get.
my bad, i thought hits to the head and leading with the helmet were completely taboo these days. i didn't realise it was limited to QB's and defenseless receivers.
thats crazy, running backs take enough of a pounding as it is without it being legal to hit them in the head as well.
did i say 'my bad'? :/<-:
fuck, i must've read too many of ali's posts. if i turn into one of those british cunts who talks in americanisms i'll have become what i most despise
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:57 pm
You're already what I most despise. A self aware british person
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Subject: Re: Sean Payton suspended 1 YEAR! Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:28 am
Ludo wrote:
You're already what I most despise. A self aware british person
that's fine, but i have to be able to look in the mirror without vomiting