After that Fedor performance

Lesnar doesn't have elite wrestling, he has ok wrestling and giant size. Go and read period pieces about him in his college days. He was criticized then. Tim Sylvia doesn't have great striking. He has ok striking and giant size. Bob Sapp never even had ok striking, and his size allowed him to beat the greatest K-1 fighter ever, twice.

Rogers, based on what he's shown, would beat Lesnar's ass. He is as big and as strong, and appears to have a pretty solid ground game of his own. He isn't a washed up Herring, a 50 year old LHW, or an overrated dirt bag named Mur.


Remember - Lesnar was away from his wrestling for nearly ten years. None of these other elites in their respective disciplines entered MMA after being away from MT/BBJ/Karate/Sombo or whatever for 6 or 8 or 10 years. People have argued that time away from wrestling doesn't matter, that wrestling is like riding a bike, but that is foolish nonsense. Lesnar, who was never the best wrestler anyway, is less of the wrestler now that he was when he was champion. The only reason he is champion is because Couture's chin has deteriorated to the point he is easily KO'd these days. The Couture that withstood the beating Rizzo gave him would have easily out pointed the penis chested beefcake.

Beyond this, Lesnar has a high risk for falling for what I call the Josh Koshcheck effect. He has lost wrestling battles as a division 1 champion to Brazilians like Alves and GSP, who never wrestled before his MMA training. Why did this happen? He was already good at wrestling, so he over extended his training in other areas, losing much of his wrestling edge, allowing guys who in theory should lose the wrestling battle to toss him around or stuff his takedowns.

Lesnar has so much to learn, that he doesn't have time to refine his wrestling skills.

Ultimately this will also prove Rogers undoing, as he has less of a base set of skills as Lesnar, and like Lesnar, relies on size and power as much as skill, but from what I have seen, Rogers would likely be able to cancel Lesnar's size, and win out with superior strikes.


The above is a good mix of expert analysis that wolf brings and the typical anti-Lesnar bias that is pervasive in all my works.

Well worded, somewhat well thought out, and ultimately baseless. We know you don't like Brock, Wolf. I don't like Brock, Wolf. But his ability to hold guys down and control position isn't "just" because of his size. The guy has very good wrestling ability... And that combined with his size, strength and athleticism is what makes him such a tough SOB in this sport. If he ever learns how to effectively strike with power, he will be unbeatable to most anyone not named Fedor or a big guy with heavy enough hands to land that once in a lifetime shot only to get mauled in the rematch.

As far as Rogers is concerned, he can throw but I'm still not sold on his ground skills. Being strong enough to stand back up under a 230 pound guy doesn't scream much when you go 285. Being strong enough to hold off an armbar that the whole world saw coming doesn't scream much either. He's still a bit of an enigma to me, but I like watching him fight and his post fight rants are almost as good as Lesnar's. They are both good and bad for the sport...

I still think a smaller, skilled fighter will spell the end for Lesnar. Couture was beating him until he lost(foolish as it sounds)

Cain Velasquez would easily out wrestle Brock.

LOL... Okay. I have a feeling we are going to get to see that and we'll revisit it then.

Cain is a true blanket. Imagine a giant, shitskinned Matt Hughes who instead of constantly trashing the other fighter inspite of bad performances, trashed his own performances no matter what they were and times that by ten.

Cain isnt out wrestling Brock ever lol.

Well i gotta say it....After that fight i am now all aboard the Fedor train, i mean i always liked him, just had something about him i could never really go to. But after that face fucking wrecking power shot, i will give this man his due respect. The best heavyweight in the world no doubt.

He would fucking murder Brok the Jock lesner

Fedor would've KO'd Brett in the first round if blood wasn't spewing from his nose. He's an amazing fighter. He knew he was going to catch Brett flush with that right hand in the second round. His ability to anticipate or figure out what his opponent is doing is second to none.

I have no doubt he would tee off on Brock's oversized melon quite easily.

Bigs03 wrote:

Fedor would've KO'd Brett in the first round if blood wasn't spewing from his nose. He's an amazing fighter. He knew he was going to catch Brett flush with that right hand in the second round. His ability to anticipate or figure out what his opponent is doing is second to none.

I have no doubt he would tee off on Brock's oversized melon quite easily.

With ease Bigs lol. He would probably win but not with ease he would know Brock was there trust me.

Too bad Brock won't be champion once Fedor goes to the UFC, since he isn't even going to make it past Carwin in his weakened condition.

imo Fedor is just too well rounded for Brock. I think Fedor could win by ko or sub, over a 5 round fight i definitley see Fedor catching Brock at some point. If it was a 3 round fight i think Brocks chances of winning a LnP decision would go up but i don't see him finishing Fedor at all.

All that strength and athleticism won't mean dick once he's gassed and eating Fedor bombs in the third round.

Didn't really change at all... maybe slightly worse since Fedor took some hard shots from a 270lb monster on the ground and wasn't even phased. I already gave Brock a 0% chance of ever beating Fedor.