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PostSubject: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 11:07 am

We had the article freak posted about getting BJ over to SF. So if Gil and others are forced to stay in SF. What UFC fighters do you think should cross over? I'll include multiple weight classes in my selection.
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 11:13 am

LW- Pettis, a young fighter fight top 10 talent. He is too far back in line to get a UFC title shot anytime soon. So why not send the last WEC Champ to SF for awhile?

Danny Castillo- 2-1 in the UFC and won his last 2 WEC fights. Still a long way from title contention but a solid LW to add to the SF mix.

J-Lau- Has had some nice wins in his UFC career, has a little hype on his side right now with the win over Melvin. He is not going to string together enough wins over top UFC guys but he could help add depth to SF.

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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 11:21 am

MW- Yushin Okami. Even though he holds a win over Munoz he is still a ways away from getting another crack at the title. Still a top 5 MW, why not give him a crack at SF gold? Far more deserving then Jardine.

Dan Miller- he isn't able to compete against the top level guys in the UFC but he would be nice to add depth to the SF MW division.

Brian Stann- the American Hero was dominated by Chael and doesn't appear to be quit ready for the UFC's elites. But he could challenge for SF gold. Stann vs Robbie anyone?
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 11:23 am

LHW- Luiz Cane, Stephan Bonnar, Brandon Vera
MW- Alan Belcher, Rousimar Palhares, Jason Miller
WW- Thiago Alves, Dan Hardy, Rory MacDonald
LW- Kenny Florian, Donald Cerrone and Aussie George
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 11:29 am

LHW- Ryan Bader. After he loses to Rampage he would have lost 3 of his last 4 UFC fights. He has had success against decent competition but he will be a long ways from the UFC mix after losing to Rampage. But Bader vs Babalu in SF doesn't sound too bad.

Stephan Bonnar- although Bonnar not with UFC seems weird. I just like the idea of Bonnar vs Mousasi. Would be entertaining and a nice name on Mousasi's resume for the casuals.

Matt Hamill- I know he is 35 and technically "retired" but besides being blitzed by Gus he has been competitive(except vs Bones). Just a thought.
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 11:30 am

i dont want anyone in ranked in the top 15 to be moved over! why water down your divisions? thats just total bs
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 11:35 am

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i dont want anyone in ranked in the top 15 to be moved over! why water down your divisions? thats just total bs
What do you mean? It's not like if they go to SF they will never be allowed back in the UFC. It's not like anyone listed would be getting a UFC title shot in the next 2 years anyways. Being headlined in SF might help build their brand they way others have in SF. So instead of these guys being on the SPIKE or FUEL portions of the cards, they are on the main card on Showtime. Let's say Okami goes to SF and wins 3 straight fights and becomes Champion. He would be as close or closer to UFC title shot then he would have been remaining in UFC.
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 11:56 am

Only send over cats who could sell fights once they've built up a name in SF. SF is going to be used as a contender creator
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 12:00 pm

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Only send over cats who could sell fights once they've built up a name in SF. SF is going to be used as a contender creator
Any examples you have in mind? Do you think it is a good idea to send a few UFC "names" over to help establish some of the guys already there? Or do you just want rising prospects who can potentially build there brand over in SF?
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 12:15 pm

Melvin Guillard, Gomi, Sean Sherk at LW
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 12:18 pm

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Melvin Guillard, Gomi, Sean Sherk at LW
I'm liking your style. Any suggestions for the other weight classes? Do you agree with my Ryan Bader pick? Safely assuming he loses to Rampage in Japan. Or other suggestions?
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 12:37 pm

Without looking at anyone elses selection.
LHW - Vera (get his ass out of the UFC)
MW - Franklin (let him go back to his weight class), Marquardt (ween him back into the Zuffa brand)
WW - Fitch (give him a title shot there), Amir (a TUF name to help carry cards)
LW - Kenny (finally a belt he may actually win)
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 12:38 pm

I like sending over Dan Miller too. The loser of Showtime and J-Lo can move over too.
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why? Working under the assumption that these SF guys will not be allowed to leave SF, for the sake of this thread. You don't want any fighters to cross over?
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 3:23 pm

WW- Diego Sanchez. After he gets smashed he will be a nice "name" to add in the SF WW division. Wouldn't mind seeing Sanchez vs Woodley.

Rumble- he can't seem to get over the hump in the UFC but he would provide a name plenty of people know and he would probably put on some exciting fights. If they want to piss Daley off they could get him another loss here.
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 3:30 pm

Again working under the assumption(for the sake of discussion) that these current SF guys are stuck and not going anywhere. You have no interest in any single fighter crossing over? You would prefer guys like Gil just fight whoever they can get that is not currently with UFC?
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 3:35 pm

The UFC is putting on way too many events at this point for me to think that sending the likes of Rumble, Diego, Pettis, Okami, etc over to SF is a good idea. Those divisions will still be thin regardless and at the end of the day I care much more about the UFC having the roster it needs to put all these cards together than I do about SF's fighters having enough competition to fight.

Honestly, I think the UFC should absorb SF's 185 division just like it is the heavies. It sucks
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Again working under the assumption(for the sake of discussion) that these current SF guys are stuck and not going anywhere. You have no interest in any single fighter crossing over? You would prefer guys like Gil just fight whoever they can get that is not currently with UFC?
no i prefer Gil, king mo, mousasi and so on in the UFC
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Six months of prospect signings could totally alter this discussion. Come on guys. The cynicism for Strikeforce's future is silly if you look at how well they groomed fighters in the WEC.
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Again let me make my intentions perfectly clear. This thread is just for the fun of the discussion, IF these SF guys are stuck and SF and IF the UFC was to choose a fighter or group o fighters to cross over. Who would you prefer? Simple as that.
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PostSubject: Re: Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF   Pick your UFC fighter(s) to crossover to SF EmptyMon Dec 19, 2011 3:59 pm

Frankie Edgar vs Gilbert Melendez
Jeremy Stevens vs KJ Noons
Masvidal vs Pettis
Tyrone Woodley vs Josh Koscheck
Chael Sonnen vs Jacare
Luke Rockhold vs Alan Belchar
Tim Kennedy vs Brian Stann
Gegard Mousasi vs Lyoto Machida
King Mo vs Hendo
Cavalcante vs Shogun
Larkin vs Diabante
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GDPofDRC wrote:
Frankie Edgar vs Gilbert Melendez
Jeremy Stevens vs KJ Noons
Masvidal vs Pettis
Tyrone Woodley vs Josh Koscheck
Chael Sonnen vs Jacare
Luke Rockhold vs Alan Belchar
Tim Kennedy vs Brian Stann
Gegard Mousasi vs Lyoto Machida
King Mo vs Hendo
Cavalcante vs Shogun
Larkin vs Diabante

Now that is just sexy. The only change I make is sub in Rashad for Hendo.
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