Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him

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Ludo wrote:

Why is it every time someone says they don't like Jon Jones someone always calls it "irrational" even if there is a clear reason to dislike the guy? Punting someone in the ribs, posting on facebook or twitter he's already won the fight the night before, dumping Rampage the way he did after the bell in I think the third round, the attitude, the cockiness, the fake ass humble act. Yet somehow it's irrational dislike?

Again "punting some one in the ribs"? What is this not fighting?

It's hells bells when Wandy would stomp dudes faces in pride, but Jones kicking a guy in the ribs is a worthy criticism?

Are there worthy criticism of Bones? No doubt. Are there worthy criticisms of just about every fighter in the sport? Straight fact right there. But Bones, is the bad guy cause he raised his hand in the air ofter suplexing some guy.

captain organic wrote:

Ludo wrote:

Why is it every time someone says they don't like Jon Jones someone always calls it "irrational" even if there is a clear reason to dislike the guy? Punting someone in the ribs, posting on facebook or twitter he's already won the fight the night before, dumping Rampage the way he did after the bell in I think the third round, the attitude, the cockiness, the fake ass humble act. Yet somehow it's irrational dislike?

Again "punting some one in the ribs"? What is this not fighting?

It's hells bells when Wandy would stomp dudes faces in pride, but Jones kicking a guy in the ribs is a worthy criticism?

Are there worthy criticism of Bones? No doubt. Are there worthy criticisms of just about every fighter in the sport? Straight fact right there. But Bones, is the bad guy cause he raised his hand in the air ofter suplexing some guy.

Wanderlei never claimed to be humble, and he didn't act like a cocky fuck in the middle of a fight or pull some shit after the bell like Jones has. It was clear the guy was already done and Jones kicked him anyway. Nobody said it was illegal, just that it was a dick move. Kind of like how it would have been a dick move if Nate Marquardt started kicking Maia in the ribs after he planted him with that punch.

Ludo wrote:

captain organic wrote:

Ludo wrote:

Why is it every time someone says they don't like Jon Jones someone always calls it "irrational" even if there is a clear reason to dislike the guy? Punting someone in the ribs, posting on facebook or twitter he's already won the fight the night before, dumping Rampage the way he did after the bell in I think the third round, the attitude, the cockiness, the fake ass humble act. Yet somehow it's irrational dislike?

Again "punting some one in the ribs"? What is this not fighting?

It's hells bells when Wandy would stomp dudes faces in pride, but Jones kicking a guy in the ribs is a worthy criticism?

Are there worthy criticism of Bones? No doubt. Are there worthy criticisms of just about every fighter in the sport? Straight fact right there. But Bones, is the bad guy cause he raised his hand in the air ofter suplexing some guy.

Wanderlei never claimed to be humble, and he didn't act like a cocky fuck in the middle of a fight or pull some shit after the bell like Jones has. It was clear the guy was already done and Jones kicked him anyway. Nobody said it was illegal, just that it was a dick move. Kind of like how it would have been a dick move if Nate Marquardt started kicking Maia in the ribs after he planted him with that punch.

So we should hate Hendo for the bomb drop on Bisping?

And Bisping was clearly out, while whoever Bones was fighting still seemed to be coherent. (and I can go on and on with fighters who have continued to drop bombs on legitimately out opponents).

Do we hate Randy for patting the ass of Tito?

Saku vs Royce?

Or do they get passes cause they are not humble?

People hate him for being a constant pretentious douche bag, plain and simple, nothing needs explaining.

GDPofDRC wrote:

People hate him for being a constant pretentious douche bag, plain and simple, nothing needs explaining.

And I think all that is a bunch of hooey. Kid acts like most other fighters in the world. But for some reason there is a runaway movement to hate on Bones.


Me, Im a fan, dude busts other dudes up. Haven't seen a dull fight with this guy yet.

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

People hate him for being a constant pretentious douche bag, plain and simple, nothing needs explaining.

And I think all that is a bunch of hooey. Kid acts like most other fighters in the world. But for some reason there is a runaway movement to hate on Bones.


Me, Im a fan, dude busts other dudes up. Haven't seen a dull fight with this guy yet.

you are in the minority good sir, i've seen this board make a complete 360 on this dude! i love how he fights, he's a badass but that's not why he's hated

People can appreciate Sandusky's defensive coordinating ability but no one is a fan of that man.

GDPofDRC wrote:

People can appreciate Sandusky's defensive coordinating ability but no one is a fan of that man.

Comparing Sandusky to Bones is totally ridiculous. Absolutely and totally.


Prime example of why I rail against the hate, totally irrational.

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

People can appreciate Sandusky's defensive coordinating ability but no one is a fan of that man.

Comparing Sandusky to Bones is totally ridiculous. Absolutely and totally.


Prime example of why I rail against the hate, totally irrational.

The point seems to of gone right over your head.

To many people, the output of a mans character is more important than the results of his talents, as is the case with most MMA fans. Nobody argues that Jones is not a great fighter, but in judging the man people see, what's to like?

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

People can appreciate Sandusky's defensive coordinating ability but no one is a fan of that man.

Comparing Sandusky to Bones is totally ridiculous. Absolutely and totally.


Prime example of why I rail against the hate, totally irrational.

The point seems to of gone right over your head.

To many people, the output of a mans character is more important than the results of his talents, as is the case with most MMA fans. Nobody argues that Jones is not a great fighter, but in judging the man people see, what's to like?

Thus the context of Sandusky. If all you care about is the, " dude busts other dudes up. Haven't seen a dull fight with this guy yet." then what does it really matter if a guy is a pretentious asshole, or flaming skinhead, or a child raper, etc.,.?

So what your saying is compare Jones to every other personality all time in MMA? Apples and oranges really. None of the above mentioned examples are turning into bigger douchebags every single time a camera or microphone is on. What exactly are you referring to with Sakuraba vs Royce? Randy patting Tito on the ass was good natured and not a "hey look what I just did to this guy!". I have to ask why you consistently get so butthurt when someone says they don't like Bones for the shit he does and says on the regular.

GDPofDRC wrote:

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

People can appreciate Sandusky's defensive coordinating ability but no one is a fan of that man.

Comparing Sandusky to Bones is totally ridiculous. Absolutely and totally.


Prime example of why I rail against the hate, totally irrational.

The point seems to of gone right over your head.

To many people, the output of a mans character is more important than the results of his talents, as is the case with most MMA fans. Nobody argues that Jones is not a great fighter, but in judging the man people see, what's to like?

Thus the context of Sandusky. If all you care about is the, " dude busts other dudes up. Haven't seen a dull fight with this guy yet." then what does it really matter if a guy is a pretentious asshole, or flaming skinhead, or a child raper, etc.,.?

cause pretentious asshole is an opinion, and one that I don't agree with, while Sandusky is a serial child molestor. U have to see the difference here.

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

People can appreciate Sandusky's defensive coordinating ability but no one is a fan of that man.

Comparing Sandusky to Bones is totally ridiculous. Absolutely and totally.


Prime example of why I rail against the hate, totally irrational.

The point seems to of gone right over your head.

To many people, the output of a mans character is more important than the results of his talents, as is the case with most MMA fans. Nobody argues that Jones is not a great fighter, but in judging the man people see, what's to like?

Thus the context of Sandusky. If all you care about is the, " dude busts other dudes up. Haven't seen a dull fight with this guy yet." then what does it really matter if a guy is a pretentious asshole, or flaming skinhead, or a child raper, etc.,.?

cause pretentious asshole is an opinion, and one that I don't agree with, while Sandusky is a serial child molestor. U have to see the difference here.

Actually thats conjecture as well right now. Has any evidence other than accusation, yet to be proven in a court for conviction, been provided?

Ludo wrote:

So what your saying is compare Jones to every other personality all time in MMA? Apples and oranges really. None of the above mentioned examples are turning into bigger douchebags every single time a camera or microphone is on. What exactly are you referring to with Sakuraba vs Royce? Randy patting Tito on the ass was good natured and not a "hey look what I just did to this guy!". I have to ask why you consistently get so butthurt when someone says they don't like Bones for the shit he does and says on the regular.

Im not butthurt. Just presenting a justified counter argument.

Better question is: Why do u get butthurt when I present the counter argument?





And Saku patted Royce's ass also.

Ludo wrote:

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

People can appreciate Sandusky's defensive coordinating ability but no one is a fan of that man.

Comparing Sandusky to Bones is totally ridiculous. Absolutely and totally.


Prime example of why I rail against the hate, totally irrational.

The point seems to of gone right over your head.

To many people, the output of a mans character is more important than the results of his talents, as is the case with most MMA fans. Nobody argues that Jones is not a great fighter, but in judging the man people see, what's to like?

Thus the context of Sandusky. If all you care about is the, " dude busts other dudes up. Haven't seen a dull fight with this guy yet." then what does it really matter if a guy is a pretentious asshole, or flaming skinhead, or a child raper, etc.,.?

cause pretentious asshole is an opinion, and one that I don't agree with, while Sandusky is a serial child molestor. U have to see the difference here.

Actually thats conjecture as well right now. Has any evidence other than accusation, yet to be proven in a court for conviction, been provided?

Get outta here with this.

captain organic wrote:

Ludo wrote:

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

People can appreciate Sandusky's defensive coordinating ability but no one is a fan of that man.

Comparing Sandusky to Bones is totally ridiculous. Absolutely and totally.


Prime example of why I rail against the hate, totally irrational.

The point seems to of gone right over your head.

To many people, the output of a mans character is more important than the results of his talents, as is the case with most MMA fans. Nobody argues that Jones is not a great fighter, but in judging the man people see, what's to like?

Thus the context of Sandusky. If all you care about is the, " dude busts other dudes up. Haven't seen a dull fight with this guy yet." then what does it really matter if a guy is a pretentious asshole, or flaming skinhead, or a child raper, etc.,.?

cause pretentious asshole is an opinion, and one that I don't agree with, while Sandusky is a serial child molestor. U have to see the difference here.

Actually thats conjecture as well right now. Has any evidence other than accusation, yet to be proven in a court for conviction, been provided?

Get outta here with this.

I'm just saying. Do you personally have any proof of the accusations? Do you just believe everything people say when a possible trial/tv time/money is involved? I don't.

My opinion of Child molesters is not good, my opinion of pretentious assholes is not good. Do see how this comes together? I listed things people don't generally like. The severity is irrelevant, what is is that they are not liked.

Multipile eyewitness accounts? The whole of the grand jury tesitmony?

Sandusky admitting horseplay with naked kids in the shower?

What I need to wait a couple months for the inevitable b4 I believe it?

GDPofDRC wrote:

My opinion of Child molesters is not good, my opinion of pretentious assholes is not good. Do see how this comes together? I listed things people don't generally like. The severity is irrelevant, what is is that they are not liked.

So ur opinion of child molestors(murderes rapists etc) is the same as it is for arrogant athletes?

That can't be your argument.

You guys are getting sidetracked on why people do or don't like individuals despite what the output their talents yields.

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

My opinion of Child molesters is not good, my opinion of pretentious assholes is not good. Do see how this comes together? I listed things people don't generally like. The severity is irrelevant, what is is that they are not liked.

So ur opinion of child molestors(murderes rapists etc) is the same as it is for arrogant athletes?

That can't be your argument.

Jon Jones is like your one hole of idiocy. It's getting pretty useless to even bother with. That you want to go Sean Hanity with the context ins't amusing.

Those things listed are unique to one another but have a common denominator, I disapprove of them.

Well in this country your innocent until proven guilty, Captain. I'm not saying anyone is lying when they come forward, but we have seen that kind of thing plenty of times before. Everyone wants the fifteen minutes of fame and some people will do sick things to get it.

GDPofDRC wrote:

You guys are getting sidetracked on why people do or don't like individuals despite what the output of their talents yields.

I can understand certain people not liking him. I just do not understand how this whole board, and so many of MMA fans hate the guy. Dudes are fans of Chael, and Brock, yet those guys are(at least) equally douchey. BJ has more then his share of douchey moments, yet he is beloved(I'm a fan Ludo so chill). Nor do I understand how people get all upset over some of his actions, kicking a guy? in MMA? Talking shit prefight? this is standard procedure.

Now if he were indeed a child molestor, I'd think this was all justified. But he's not. Not even close.