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Subject: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:13 pm
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/12/5/2607804/ufc-140-lyoto-machida-vs-jon-jones-early-fight-videos-career [youtube][/youtube] Awesome, right? Things start off going along as you would expect from the debut of a future champion. Jones is controlling the ground, looking good in the process, and then he hits this stunning suplex seemingly out of nowhere, hurling Bernard straight onto his head. From there, we get a glimpse of the Jon Jones that a lot of people don't love, as he gloats over the fallen body of Bernard, then throws some shots, gets up, and viciously punts Bernard straight in the ribs. Nothing illegal about any of this, but it's certainly not the most sportsmanlike conduct you've ever seen. Still, it makes an impression, and 92 seconds into his career, it's clear this is a kid to watch.
Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:32 pm
i guess he did hold his hand up after the suplex, that was kinda gay but that's Bones for ya
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:57 pm
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josh200612 Silver Belt
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:13 pm
This was posted before.
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:22 pm
josh200612 wrote:
This was posted before.
Yeah but did it have a link to all his other fights as well as a writer telling us why to hate him?
bobbitt15 Gold Belt
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:32 pm
He's a douche. I'm so tired of listening to all his stupid bullshit about "destiny" in pre-fight interviews. STFU dude
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:35 pm
Not a fan.
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:44 pm
What kind of chance you giving your boy Kings
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:24 pm
I honestly don't know what to expect. I think if Machida comes in with his timing on, things can get interesting...if he takes too long to establish his timing like he did against Rampage hard to see him winning.
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:00 am
An unnamed "ultimate fighting champion" beat the crap out of a mugger in Chi town. Is Bones there, or did someone in another city see him run into a phone booth while pulling his shirt open? This reeks of his pretentious ass (could've worded that better).
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:50 pm
No room for vigilantes. I hope they find this arrogant son of a bitch.
captain organic Bronze Belt
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:25 pm
KingsOwn19 wrote:
No room for vigilantes. I hope they find this arrogant son of a bitch.
I'd assume sarcasm, but given the rampant irrational dislike of Jones, Im not so sure.
oggy420 Bronze Belt
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:43 pm
ehh i didn't see anything too bad. Anderson Silva has in fact acted disrespectful and unsportsmanlike imo in a fight or 2 as well.
The only problem i have is when we have to hear how humble this kid is. And now it's like expected of him. I think he would be much more marketable if he actually embraced some of his flashiness and just were true to himself. He doesn't have to be the always politically correct humble GSP type. That's just not him. That's boring anyway. If his natural instinct is to be flashy and that is how he feels comfortable when fighting then why stop him?
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:54 pm
Nothing to see here.
Especially the kick to the ribs. One of the more ridiculous criticisms I've seen in regards to Bones.
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:50 am
Quote :
"It's interesting because everyone keeps asking me, 'how are you going to solve Lyoto Machida's puzzle?' But it's been solved already. I have blueprints. I really think I have more technique than he does, more skills, more tools. I can fight southpaw and do the same exact techniques and combos that I can do in an orthodox stance. That's something that he can't do. I have a really solid ground game. I have a third degree black belt in wrestling, even though that's not possible. I'm a strong wrestler. I really feel as if I'm the one that he should be worried about."
I'm sorry maybe it's because I was a fan of the guy before I really paid attention to him out of the cage, but damn, I really don't like this guy. He just rubs me the wrong way these days. I can't stand his cocky little smurk.
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:59 am
Why is it every time someone says they don't like Jon Jones someone always calls it "irrational" even if there is a clear reason to dislike the guy? Punting someone in the ribs, posting on facebook or twitter he's already won the fight the night before, dumping Rampage the way he did after the bell in I think the third round, the attitude, the cockiness, the fake ass humble act. Yet somehow it's irrational dislike?
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:02 am
Ludo wrote:
Why is it every time someone says they don't like Jon Jones someone always calls it "irrational" even if there is a clear reason to dislike the guy? Punting someone in the ribs, posting on facebook or twitter he's already won the fight the night before, dumping Rampage the way he did after the bell in I think the third round, the attitude, the cockiness, the fake ass humble act. Yet somehow it's irrational dislike?
What bothered me most about the Ramapage fight is when he came out crawling around like the guy from Bloodsport. His overconfidence has turned into straight arrogance. This kid thinks his shit don't stink.
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:05 am
I don't mind that so much to be honest. He was trying to get into Rampage's head and did it in a moment where there could be consequences. Dumping Page the way he did after the bell rung for the end of a round was pure bullshit though. Thats a situation where if Rampage had retaliated he could have been disqualified. It was a bitch move.
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:51 pm
"That's a question I get a lot is, how crazy is it to prepare for Lyoto? But I truly think, how crazy is it to prepare for me?" said Jones. "I'm a big studier of myself, and I realize I do a lot of things people don't do -- flying knees, spinning attacks, and southpaw and just efficient orthodox -- I'm sure he's confused."
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:55 pm
bobbitt15 wrote:
Everything that he says is pure douche bag.
he might be a d-bag but he's 100% right in what he said... he's more a puzzle than Lyoto IMO
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:58 pm
I wouldn't call him more of a puzzle, the answer is simple just not something thats easy to capitalize on. If you can match his athleticism with superior technique you can take advantage of those openings. The problem is he's easily top 3 in the athleticism department in the sport today so thats not really an option for most guys. Timing is going to be the key though, if someone can time him out and start landing they can beat him if they have good punching power.
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Subject: Re: Jon Jones pro debut(video) easy to see why people hate him Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:00 pm
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