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GDPofDRC wrote:

6:00pm Saturday on my guide

NBC - Maryland vs Notre Dame
FOX - Cain vs JDS
ABC - Stanford vs Oregon
CBS - Local News

Stanford vs Oregon will be right around 2nd or 3rd quarter and the same with the Notre Dame game. U might get that one guy at the party that gets the channel flipped over for the fight. I think there is gonna be a big number that will make Dana White a very happy guy.

Oregon vs Stanford is a huge game this weekend.

OU wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

I think it will actually help, it will mean there are already a group of people committed to being near a tv, and they might want to miss the opening fight in favor of an actual interesting HW matchup featuring a Hispanic fighter to boot.

It seemed like Cap was also implying that it helps and that boxing fans will be watching this. I was just curious, I didn't know if boxing fans would be glued to the set waiting on the Pac fight or if they would prefer this as a time killer.

Yeah Im assuming guys flip over. But is the boxing undercard any good? that could play a role.

Is a boxing undercard ever any good? I'm what you might call a "casual" boxing fan but I have never even seen anyone broadcasting the undercard to a major fight.

timthebim wrote:

Oregon vs Stanford is a huge game this weekend.

Yeah but not near the interest that LSU-Bama had last week. Which is good for the UFC.

captain organic wrote:

OU wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

I think it will actually help, it will mean there are already a group of people committed to being near a tv, and they might want to miss the opening fight in favor of an actual interesting HW matchup featuring a Hispanic fighter to boot.

It seemed like Cap was also implying that it helps and that boxing fans will be watching this. I was just curious, I didn't know if boxing fans would be glued to the set waiting on the Pac fight or if they would prefer this as a time killer.

Yeah Im assuming guys flip over. But is the boxing undercard any good? that could play a role.

I have no idea, I haven't heard any buzz about any undercard matchup.

Manny Pacquiao Vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III Undercard

Timothy Bradley vs. Joel Casamayor. Top Rank Promotions' big new junior welterweight signing, Timothy Bradley, is looking to showcase himself against veteran Joel Casamayor. It's been mulled before, but "Desert Storm" fighting in the main undercard bout on a card that Pacquiao is headlining can only mean one thing: Top Rank wants to build Bradley into a future Pacman opponent. Palm Springs, California's Bradley has been inactive for most of the year due to problems with his former promoter, Gary Shaw. In many ways Bradley (27-0) is an unlikely elite fighter. He got here by winning fights he was probably meant to lose against Miguel Vazquez, Junior Witter and Kendall Holt. His style sure isn't pretty and “Desert Storm” has his share of critics. He's not powerful, but he rushes in with his big bald head and overwhelms his opponents. He's coming off what should have been a showcase victory against fellow up and comer Devon Alexander in January. Instead, due to poor promotional decisions, that fight was held in a nearly empty arena and ended anti-climactically with Alexander begging out after suffering a cut caused by Bradley's infamous noggin. Casamayor (38-5-1) is a curious choice for a showcase opponent, generally making everyone he faces look bad. The 40-year-old Cuban defector is past his best, but embodies the “cagey veteran” stereotype. In a typically impassive losing effort against Robert Guerrero last July, Casamor somehow found a way to drop the larger and more athletic man in the 10h, completely against the run of play. He's alternately defeated and struggled with pressure-type fighters, splitting pairs of fights with Diego Corrales and Jose Luis Castillo and getting off the floor to stop Michael Katsidis. It's not going to be pretty and there's a fair chance it will end on headbutt-caused cuts. If not, Bradley by decision is the most likely outcome.


Mike Alvarado vs. Breidis Prescott. Earlier on the card, fellow junior welter and hot prospect Mike Alvarado will fight infamous Amir Khan conqueror Breidis Prescott, who's coming off a loss to Paul McCloskey. Denver's Alvarado (31-0) is all about intelligent pressure and beat Carlos Molina all the way back in 2007. Molina has gone on to prove himself to be a very good fighter and a player at junior middleweight, so that win is looking better and better with time. It's good that he's getting showcased, because it's really about time that he stepped up to the next level of opposition. Prescott (24-3) has managed to parley a decent career out of his 1st round stoppage of Khan in 2008. That was down at lightweight though, and Prescott's power seems to have evaporated at junior welter, if it was ever that good to begin with. He's quite a good boxer though, and has a very good stick. His defeat to McCloskey was a pick 'em type thing, and McCloskey is a super awkward southpaw. Whether Prescott tries to box or brawl shouldn't really matter. Alvarado should be able to track him down and start swapping leather and Prescott will willingly participate, no matter what the game plan was originally.


Luis Cruz vs. Juan Carlos Burgos. Also, fun Puerto Rican junior lightweight prospect Luis Cruz faces the toughest test of his career against Mexico's Juan Carlos Burgos. This has a good chance of being the funnest fight on the whole card. Cruz (19-0) is a classy boxer puncher. He can punch with both hands, with a particularly nice left hook and right uppercut. “El Artesano” has been in quite tough for a guy with his number of professional fights and is already ranked number 10 in the division by Ring Magazine. Burgos (27-1) is a career featherweight moving up. His only loss was by decision to Hozumi Hasegawa, a former pound-for-pounder. No shame in that. Whether Burgos carries his power up to the new weight may well be key to the fight. What's for sure is that Burgos will come to brawl and Cruz will most likely oblige. “Miniburgos” (is there a "Maxiburgos?") can get a little wild in there though, and I suspect that Cruz will make him pay for that over the course of the fight.

Bradley vs Casamayor seems like a fight true boxing fans would watch b4 they'd watch MMA.

I may have been overestimating the amount of boxing fans who will flip over.

Is it just me or have boxing undercards gotten MUCH better in recent years?

captain organic wrote:

Bradley vs Casamayor seems like a fight true boxing fans would watch b4 they'd watch MMA.

For sure, people will want to see Bradley.

captain organic wrote:

Is it just me or have boxing undercards gotten MUCH better in recent years?

Big main events have been less and less as exciting as the undercard a lot lately.

Has the MMA format contributed to stronger boxing undercards?

I don't think so. It's still 100% about the main event imo.

GDPofDRC wrote:

I don't think so. It's still 100% about the main event imo.

I dunno, I look at the PBF Diaz undercard, it had a legend in Morales, and the sports hottest prospect in Alvarez.

no people were not paying $60 for that, but those were fights, especially Alvarez(and the Morales fight turned out to be a real good one) were very good matchups that people wanted to see.

OU wrote:

Has the MMA format contributed to stronger boxing undercards?

I think it clearly has. At least on the television end of it(and TV is the driver of all major sports). In the arena's not so much, often these fights are at 2 seperate locations.

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

I don't think so. It's still 100% about the main event imo.

I dunno, I look at the PBF Diaz undercard, it had a legend in Morales, and the sports hottest prospect in Alvarez.

no people were not paying $60 for that, but those were fights, especially Alvarez(and the Morales fight turned out to be a real good one) were very good matchups that people wanted to see.

But that has always been the formula in boxing. Larger than life main events they try to seel on the big shows, but high end, championship or contender match or two on the card still. Been like that since before MMA got big or at least a lot in the 90's with the none-HW cards I remember.

GDPofDRC wrote:

captain organic wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

I don't think so. It's still 100% about the main event imo.

I dunno, I look at the PBF Diaz undercard, it had a legend in Morales, and the sports hottest prospect in Alvarez.

no people were not paying $60 for that, but those were fights, especially Alvarez(and the Morales fight turned out to be a real good one) were very good matchups that people wanted to see.

But that has always been the formula in boxing. Larger than life main events they try to seel on the big shows, but high end, championship or contender match or two on the card still. Been like that since before MMA got big or at least a lot in the 90's with the none-HW cards I remember.

your gonna have to provide an example of guys of the ilk of Morales and Alvarez fighting on an undercard of a PPV.

Maybe there have been Bradley level guys b4, or the undefeated guy from Denver, but I thought the pbf Diaz undercard was much better then anything I remember.

hmm. I mostly think of the Oscar cards. Guys like James Toney, Erik Morales, Antonio Diaz, Floyd Mayweather Jr, and Micky Ward John John, used to litter those undercards as up and comers and in the mix guys.

Early results point at 4.5 million viewers, if it had gone to at least the second round it would have got a lot more

Update: Not 4.6, but 5.7

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/364317/Update-UFC-on-FOX-did-57-million-viewers-most-watched-UFC-ever/

OU wrote:

5.3 is my guess

Pretty good guess. It was however closer to 6 than 5.

Farmer1906 wrote:

OU wrote:

5.3 is my guess

Pretty good guess. It was however closer to 6 than 5.

I put the over/under at 6, bu it seems any where close tp 5 would be really darn good.

5.7! Very nice, those are excellent ratings

Yeah 5.7 is awesome.

Farmer1906 wrote:

OU wrote:

5.3 is my guess

Pretty good guess. It was however closer to 6 than 5.

Still under 6 like I said and 5.3 is pretty damn close to 5.7