MMA RANKINGS - CHAPTER 1...

But Mike Swick is hardly top 15, and Dan Hardy at 4? Where are the top ten wins on these guys resumes?

Look, I get it, the UFC pulled your creds and threatens your relevancy, so you rank the best non-UFC WW who would smackdown half the UFC's top ten with ease at 9, while inflating scrubby bums like Swick, to get the UFC to forgive you. I get it, I just don't agree with it.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Thigao is def top 10, no shame in losing to the best LHW in the World and Rashad whose top 5. he did well against Shad considering his injury too, I think he'd win a rematch. Nobody made huge moves below him to move ahead of him, he's 8-10 IMO.

Yeah no shame in losing to the best LHW but he got murdered lol. Machida destroyed him with ease. Still I think after his last couple fights I dont have a real beef with his ranking.

the dog LOVES Swick for reasons undefined.

Also, for some reason people are applauding Dan Hardy for simply not being finished by GSP even though he showcased absolutely nothing except the ability to take a lickin in that fight. Even Dana White said he thought Hardy looked great..i was like what?

Dan Hardy is really good, really good at surviving finishes in fights he is being absolutely raped in.

To Hardy's credit, Swick was in the top 10 when he beat him I'm pretty sure.

That is true LA, but since then that win doesn't seem as great. Swick has been exposed and was over valued.

Definetely was overvalued, he's hovering around 15th right now.

I still think Hardy has potential to stay in the top 10, I'd like to see him get another top 10 guy or about in his next fight, then we'll know.

Hardy is pretty much assured top ten fights from here on. Hughes seems like a good fight too though, from the UFC's perspective. It is also a rare fight Hughes would take.

timthebim wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Thigao is def top 10, no shame in losing to the best LHW in the World and Rashad whose top 5. he did well against Shad considering his injury too, I think he'd win a rematch. Nobody made huge moves below him to move ahead of him, he's 8-10 IMO.

Yeah no shame in losing to the best LHW but he got murdered lol. Machida destroyed him with ease. Still I think after his last couple fights I dont have a real beef with his ranking.

Who, since Machida got to the UFC, hasn't been destroyed seemingly with ease that isn't named Rua? Before Shogun he hadn't even lost a single round in the UFC(some had said ever, but his split decision win over Sam Greco means obviously one judge thought Greco took it)

GET YOUR VOTES IN BY FRIDAY!

RANK 1-10 FOR HW, LHW, MW, WW, LW, AND FW.

WE WILL DO THE VOTING THIS WEEK THEN AGAIN AFTER WEC.

LAST RANKINGS (JAN 19TH) / SINCE THEN
Heavyweight
1. Fedor Emelianenko 129 / 0-0
2. Brock Lesnar 114 / 0-0
3. Frank Mir 99 / 0-1
4. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 96 / 0-1
5. Junior Dos Santos 62 / 1-0
6. Shane Carwin 52 / 1-0
7. Cain Velasquez 49 / 1-0
8. Josh Barnett 47 / 1-0
9. Brett Rogers 29 / 0-0
10. Andrei Arlovski 18 / 0-0
RV: Alistair Overeem (11) / 0-0 (1-0 in K-1), Fabricio Werdum (9) / 0-0

Light Heavyweight
1. Lyoto Machida 124 / 0-0
2. Mauricio Rua 115 / 0-0
3. Gegard Mousasi 85 / 0-0
4. Rashad Evans 82 / 0-0
5. Quinton Jackson 71 / 0-0
6. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira 62 / 0-0
7. Anderson Silva 47 / 0-0
8. Thiago Silva 40 / 0-0
9. Forrest Griffin 31 / 0-0
10. Randy Couture 20 / 0-1
RV: Jon Jones (16) / 1-0, Dan Henderson (11) / 0-0, Rich Franklin (5) / 0-0, Luis Arthur Cane (4) / 0-0, Brandon Vera (1) / 0-1


Middleweight
1. Anderson Silva 120**** / 0-0
2. Dan Henderson 104 / 0-0
3. Nate Marquardt 98 / 0-1
4. Vitor Belfort 82 / 0-0
5. Jake Shields 64 / 0-0
6. Damien Maia 61 / 1-0
7. Chael Sonnen 53 / 1-0
8. Mamed Khalidov 22 / 0-1
9. Yushin Okami 18 / 1-0
10. Ronaldo Souza 13 / 0-0
RV: Yoshihiro Akiyama (12) / 0-0, Michael Bisping (5) / 0-1, Robbie Lawler (4) / 1-0, Paulo Filho (1) / 0-0, Melvin Manhoef (1) / 0-1

Welterweight
1. Georges St. Pierre 130**** / 1-0
2. Jon Fitch 113 / 1-0
3. Thiago Alves 104 / 0-0
4. Josh Koshcheck 91 / 0-0
5. Dan Hardy 73 / 0-1
6. Paul Daley 57 / 0-0
7t. Matt Hughes 31 / 0-0
7t. Mike Swick 31 / 0-1
9. Paulo Thiago 24 / 1-0
10. Marius Zaromskis 15 / 0-1
RV: Nick Diaz (11) / 1-0, Carlos Condit (9) / 0-0, BJ Penn (9) / 0-0, Anthony Johnson (7) / 0-0, Martin Kampmann (6) / 0-0, Jay Heiron (1) / 1-0, Dan Hornbuckle (1) / 0-0

Lightweight
1. BJ Penn 120**** / 0-0
2. Shinya Aoki 105 / 0-0
3. Kenny Florian 83 / 1-0
4. Eddie Alvarez 68 / 0-0
5. Gray Maynard 66 / 1-0
6. Frank Edgar 56 / 0-0
7. Diego Sanchez 51 / 0-0
8. Tatsuya Kawajiri 42 / 0-0
9. Sean Sherk 23 / 0-0
10. Gilbert Melendez 20 / 0-0
RV: Tyson Griffin (12) / 0-0, Joe Stevenson (5) / 0-1, Joachim Hansen (4) / 0-1 (at FW), Ben Henderson (3) / 0-1, Clay Guida (1) / 1-0, Jim Miller (1) / 1-0

Featherweight
1. Jose Aldo 110**** / 0-0
2. Mike Brown 99 / 0-0
3. Urijah Faber 88 / 0-0
4. Raphael Assuncao 67 / 0-1
5t. Josh Grispi 40 / 0-0
5t. Hatsu Hioki 40 / 0-0
7. Bibiano Fernandes 37 / 1-0
8. Michihiro Omigawa 36 / 0-0
9. Manny Gamburyan 24 / 0-0
10. Mackens Semerzier 22 / 0-0
RV: Wagnney Fabiano (17) / 0-0, Masanori Kanehara (13) / 0-0, Deividas Taurosevicius (6) / 0-1, Takeshi Inuoe (5) / 1-0, Marlon Sandro (1) / 1-0

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Brock Lesnar
3. Shane Carwin
4. Cain Velasquez
5. Junior Dos Santos
6. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
7. Frank Mir
8. Alistair Overeem
9. Andrei Arlovski
10. Brett Rogers

1. Anderson Silva
2. Lyoto Machida
3. Mauricio Rua
4. Gegard Mousasi
5. Rashad Evans
6. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
7. Forrest Griffin
8. Jon Jones
9. Dan Henderson
10. Rich Franklin

1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Vitor Belfort
4. Chael Sonnen
5. Demian Maia
6. Nate Marquardt
7. Jake Shields
8. Ronaldo Souza
9. Robbie Lawler
10. Yushin Okami

1. Georges St. Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Thiago Alvez
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Matt Hughes
6. Paul Daley
7. Dan Hardy
8. Anthony Johnson
9. Mike Swick
10. Martin Kampmann

1. BJ Penn
2. Shinya Aoki
3. Gray Maynard
4. Frank Edgar
5. Diego Sanchez
6. Eddie Alvarez
7. Kenny Florian
8. Sean Sherk
9. Tyson Griffin
10. Tatsuya Kawajiri

1. Jose Aldo
2. Mike Brown
3. Urijah Faber
4. Raphael Assuncao
5. Josh Grispi
6. Mackens Semerzier
7. Wagnney Fabiano
8. Michihiro Omigawa
9. Manny Gamburyan
10. Bibiano Fernandes

HW
1. Fedor
2. Brock
3. Cain
4. Carwin
5. Dos Santos
6. Mir
7. Nog
8. Rogers
9. Werdum
10. Overeem

LHW
1. Lyoto
2. Shogun
3. Rampage
4. Rashad
5. Mousasi
6. Lil Nog
7. Forrest
8. Thiago
9. Jon Jones
10. Couture

MW
1. Anderson
2. Hendo
3. Sonnen
4. Nate
5. Vitor
6. Maia
7. Shields
8. Santiago
9. Khalidov
10. Okami

WW
1. GSP
2. Fitch
3. Alves
4. Kos
5. Thiago
6. Daley
7. Diaz
8. Hardy
9. Swick
10. Kampmann

LW
1. BJ
2. Aoki
3. KenFlo
4. Alvarez
5. Gray
6. Edgar
7. Kawajiri
8. Sherk
9. Melendez
10. Griffin

FW
1. Aldo
2. Brown
3. Faber
4. Bibiano
5. Assuncao
6. Hioki
7. Kanehara
8. Sandro
9. Omigawa
10. Grispi

HW -
1. Fedor
2. Brock
3. Cain
4. Carwin
5. JDS
6. Mur
7. Nog
8. Barnett
9. Rogers
10. Arlovski

LHW -
1. Machida
2. Rua
3. Mousasi
4. Rampage
5. Evans
6. Gump
7. Lil Nog
8. Thiago
9. Franklin
10. Couture

MW -
1. Anderson
2. Hendo
3. Sonnen
4. Belfort
5. Marquardt
6. Shields
7. Maia
8. Akiyama
9. Wandy
10. Santiago

WW -
1. GSP
2. Fitch
3. Alves
4. Koscheck
5. Hughes
6. Nick Diaz
7. Thiago
8. Daley
9. Hardy
10. Almeida

LW -
1. BJ
2. Aoki
3. Florian
4. Alvarez
5. Maynard
6. Edgar
7. Kawajiri
8. Diego
9. Gilbert
10. Hirota

FW -
1. Aldo
2. MTB
3. Faber
4. Bibiano
5. Hioki
6. Omigawa
7. Kanehara
8. Grispi
9. Sandro
10. Hansen

Heavyweight

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Brock Lesnar
3. Cain Velasquez
4. Shane Carwin
5. Junior dos Santos
6. Josh Barnett
7. Frank Mir
8. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
9. Brett Rogers
10. Fabricio Werdum

LHW

1. Lyoto Machida
2. Mauricio Rua
3. Quinton Jackson
4. Rashad Evans
5. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
6. Gegard Mousasi
7. Thiago Silva
8. Forrest Griffin
9. Randy Couture
10. Jon Jones

MW

1. Anderson Silva
2. Dan Henderson
3. Chael Sonnen
4. Nate Marquardt
5. Vitor Belfort
6. Jake Shields
7. Demian Maia
8. Jorge Santiago
9. Ronaldo Souza
10. Paulo Filho

Welterweight

1. Georges St-Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Josh Koscheck
4. Thiago Alves
5. Nick Diaz
6. Paulo Thiago
7. Paul Daley
8. Dan Hardy
9. Carlos Condit
10. Marius Zaromskis

Lightweight

1. B.J. Penn
2. Shinya Aoki
3. Kenny Florian
4. Eddie Alvarez
5. Frankie Edgar
6. Gilbert Melendez
7. Gray Maynard
8. Tatsuya Kawijiri
9. Sean Sherk
10. Tyson Griffin

I'll no longer use Diego Sanchez in LW rankings

FW

1. Jose Aldo
2. Mike Thomas Brown
3. Urijah Faber
4. Bibiano Fernnandes
5. Hatsu Hioki
6. Raphael Assuncao
7. Marlon Sandro
8. Josh Grispi
9. Manny Gamburyan
10. Joachim Hansen

HW
#1 Fedor
#2 Brock
#3 Carwin
#4 Cain
#5 Cigano
#6 Mir
#7 Big Nog
#8 Overeem
#9 Barnett
#10 Rogers

LH
#1 Machida
#2 Shogun
#3 Hollywood
#4 Rashad
#5 Mousasi
#6 LilNog
#7 Forrest
#8 Jon Jones
#9 Thiago
#10 Couture

MW
#1 Silva
#2 Hendo
#3 Belfort
#4 Sonnen
#5 Marquardt
#6 Maia
#7 Sheilds
#8 Sexyama
#9 Wandi
#10 Lawler

WW
#1 GSP
#2 Fitch
#3 Alves
#4 Koscheck
#5 Thiago
#6 Daley
#7 Hardy
#8 Diaz
#9 Hughes
#10 Swick

LW
#1 BJ
#2 Aoki
#3 KenFlo
#4 Maynard
#5 Edgar
#6 Sanchez
#7 Griffin
#8 Melendez
#9 Diaz
#10 Henderson

Heavyweight
1. Fedor
2. Brock
3. Carwin
4. Cain
5. Mir
6. JDS
7. Nog
8. Rogers
9. Werdum
10. Nelson

Light Heavyweight
1. Machida
2. Rua
3. Mousasi
4. Shad
5. A. Silva
6. Page
7. T. silva
8. Lil Nog
9. Jones
10. Randy


Middleweight
1. ASilva
2. Hendo
3. Vitor
4. Sonnen
5. Marquardt
6. Shields
7. Maia
8. Okami
9. Wandy
10. Lawler

Welterweight
1. GSP
2. Fitch
3. T. Alves
4. Kos
5. Daley
6. Hardy
7. Thiago
8. Swick
9. Hughes
10. N. Diaz

Lightweight
1. BJ
2. Kenflo
3. Aoki
4. Alvarez
5. Maynard
6. Edgar
7. Sherk
8. Kawajiri
9. Melendez
10. Guida

Featherweight
1. Aldo
2. Brown
3. Faber
4. Bibiano
5. Assuncao
6. Hioki
7. Kanehara
8. Sandro
9. Omigawa
10. Grispi

1 Fedor
2 Cain
3 Brock
4 Carwin
5 JDS
6 Nog
7 Mir
8 Barnett
9 AA
10 Werdum

1 Shogun
2 Machida
3 Anderson
4 Rampage
5 Mousasi
6 Lil Nog
7 Evans
8 Forrest
9 Bones
10 Thiago Silva

1 Silva
2 Hendo
3 Belfort
4 Sonnen
5 Nate
6 Maia
7 Shields
8 Wand
9 Santiago
10 Okami

1 GSP
2 Fitch
3 Alves
4 Kos
5 Thiago
6 Diaz
7 Semtex
8 Hardy
9 Hughes
10 Kampman

1 BJ
2 Florian
3 Aoki
4 Alvarez
5 Edgar
6 Melendez
7 Maynard
8 Kawajiri
9 Griffin
10 Sotiropoulos

1 Aldo
2 Brown
3 Faber
4 Bibiano
5 Assuncao
6 Hioki
7 Omigawa
8 Grispi
9 Kanehara
10 Sandro

Sandro

NINJA'S PLACE POUND FOR POUND TOP TEN

July 29, 2010


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Top Ten
Rank	Fighter	Total Points	(First Place Votes)
1	GSP	84	(4)
2	Anderson Silva	81	(3)
3	Shogun	71	(1)
4	Fedor	56	(1)
5	Jose Aldo	50	None
6	BJ Penn	47	None
7	Lyoto Machida	33	None
8	Frankie Edgar	24	None
9	Jake Shields	15	None
10	Dominick Cruz	10	None
Others Receiving Votes
Rank	Fighter	Total Points
11	Jon Fitch	7
12	Brock Lesnar	6
12	Rershad Evans	5
12	Kenny Florian	3
15	Fabricio Werdum	2
15	Cain Velasquez	1
Dropped Out:	None

May 3rd, 2010

Top Ten
Rank	Fighter	Total Points	(First Place Votes)
1	Fedor Emelianenko	125	(10)
2	Anderson Silva	112	(2)
3	GSP	111	(1)
4	Jose Aldo	90	None
5	Lyoto Machida	77	None
6	Shogun Rua	49	None
7	BJ Penn	48	None
8	Jake Shields	38	None
9	Frankie Edgar	26	None
10	Dominick Cruz	16	None
Others Receiving Votes
Rank	Fighter	Total Points
11	Jon Fitch	15
12	Vitor Belfort	2
12	Rampage Jackson	2
12	Brock Lesnar	2
15	Rashad Evans	1
15	Ben Henderson	1
Dropped Out:	Gegard Mousasi,	Dan Henderson

Previous Rankings

April 9th, 2010

Top Ten
Rank	Fighter	Total Points	(First Place Votes)
1	Fedor Emelianenko	130	(9)
2	Anderson Silva	128	(4)
3	GSP	119	(1)
4	BJ Penn	98	None
5	Lyoto Machida	74	None
6	Jose Aldo	67	None
7	Shogun Rua	54	None
8	Gegard Mousasi	23	None
9	John Fitch	22	None
10	Dan Henderson	13	None
Others Receiving Votes
Rank	Fighter	Total Points	(First Place Votes)
11	Rampage Jackson	9	None
12	Jake Shields	8	None
13	Kenny Florian	6	None
14	Dominick Cruz	5	None
15	Shinya Aoki	4	None
15	Vitor Belfort	4	None
17	Thiago Alves	3	None
18	Brock Lesnar	2	None
19	Reshad Evans	1	None

1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. GSP
3. Anderson Silva
4. BJ Penn
5. Shogun
6. Jose Aldo
7. Lyoto Machida
8. Dan Henderson
9. Gegard Mousasi
10. Kenny Florian

HW:
1.) Fedor
2.) Brock
3.) Cain
4.) Carwin
5.) Dos Santos
6.) Mir
7.) Nog
8.) Barnett
9.) Werdum
10.) Big Country

LHW:
1.) Machida
2.) Shogun
3.) Anderson
4.) Rampage
5.) Rashad
6.) Lil Nog
7.) Bones Jones
8.) Mousasi
9.) Thiago
10.) Forrest

1. Fedor
2. Anderson
3. GSP
4. Penn
5. Aldo
6. Machida
7. Shogun
8. Sheilds
9. Gegard
10. Fitch

Why not wait till after the events coming up?

Was discussed and said this would correlate with timing of the divisional rankings.