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PostSubject: Re: Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones   Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 28, 2011 10:40 pm

Still would have Spider over Jones at this point in a 5 rounder
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PostSubject: Re: Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones   Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 28, 2011 10:50 pm

Anderson is the best of all time. Beating page on the tail end if his career doesn't change that.
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PostSubject: Re: Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones   Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 28, 2011 10:56 pm

If Jon Jones beats Rashad Evans then his resume would already be better than Anderson Silva's.
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PostSubject: Re: Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones   Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 28, 2011 10:57 pm

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Anderson is the best of all time. Beating page on the tail end if his career doesn't change that.

No doubt spider still has the all time credentials lead, but if these guys were to fight today, it's still a MW vs a LHW. And Bones is not Forrest.
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PostSubject: Re: Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones   Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 28, 2011 11:41 pm

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Anderson is the best of all time. Beating page on the tail end if his career doesn't change that.

No doubt spider still has the all time credentials lead, but if these guys were to fight today, it's still a MW vs a LHW. And Bones is not Forrest.

Yeah thats what I meant. If they prepared to fight in a year and both are healthy I think Bones beats up Anderson Silva. I think it could get pretty ugly too. Silva always has his speed and power. He would be a better fight right now for Jones over any other guy walking around at 220lbs. It's rediculous that we won't see them fight for two years, if ever, because they probably walk around at pretty much the same weight. It is the best fight in the MMA world right now imo. I can't think of a fight I would rather see
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PostSubject: Re: Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones   Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 28, 2011 11:42 pm

besides Cung vs Spider. heh!
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PostSubject: Re: Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones   Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 29, 2011 8:26 am

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Jones would take the fight to the ground within 30 seconds.


See I'm fine with that way of thinking but if he stands with Anderson he will wake up stairing at the lights.
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PostSubject: Re: Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones   Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones - Page 2 EmptyFri Sep 30, 2011 11:14 pm

LOL Freak this is becoming quite tragic now.
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Jones would take the fight to the ground within 30 seconds.


See I'm fine with that way of thinking but if he stands with Anderson he will wake up stairing at the lights.

Not completely sure of this. I'm completely of the opinion that Spider is the best striker in MMA. But Bones is a big lhw, with tons of reach, good hand speed, uses his kicks, and could get Spider off balance by wrestling early.


I don't see the striking portion of this match up as dominated by Spider.
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PostSubject: Re: Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones   Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones - Page 2 EmptySat Oct 01, 2011 3:43 am

Bones is a solid striker and his length gives him natural defense, but he still leaves his hands down to much and can get a little sloppy even if it works. We think someone can stand with Anderson then he up kicks Vitor in the face...meaningwhile Vitor's been wrecking everyone else he meets and trys banging with him. I'm sure Bones would lands some leg kicks, a couple jabs, but Anderson would figure out his timing and you just never know when a Sagat style jabs is gonna land. I see Bones trying to get Anderson down if anything, Anderson is slick enough off his back to both threaten and fend off subs, but I could see Bones getting sidemount or some shit and doing some damage. IBut really it's just hard to bet against Anderson eventually landing something against anyone.
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PostSubject: Re: Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones   Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones - Page 2 EmptySat Oct 01, 2011 6:49 am

I do give the edge to Bones, his freakish reach and solid striking would cause Silva trouble. But then again how is Bones going to deal with Silva's speed, accuracy and submissions ?

Hard to see Silva being wrecked, even when Sonnen was dominating him he was still able to do alot of damage off his back.
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PostSubject: Re: Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones   Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones - Page 2 EmptySat Oct 01, 2011 7:06 am

If Sonnen was able to keep Anderson down for 5 rounds then Jones could do it even easier. Sonnen is very weak when it comes to sub defense. We have never seen Jones in any trouble on the ground. If the fight stayed standing then yes Anderson would have the advantage but Jones trained by Greg Jackson would not keep that fight standing.
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PostSubject: Re: Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones   Coach: I don't think Anderson Silva would like to fight Jon Jones - Page 2 EmptySat Oct 01, 2011 7:13 am

Jon Jones if he beats Rashad Evans=

Rashad Evans
Maurício Rua
Quinton Jackson

Anderson Silva=

Dan Henderson
Vitor Belfort
Chael Sonnen

Jones' top 3 victories would be much more impressive than Anderson's especially since Sonnen dominated Anderson.
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freakzilla wrote:
If Sonnen was able to keep Anderson down for 5 rounds then Jones could do it even easier. Sonnen is very weak when it comes to sub defense. We have never seen Jones in any trouble on the ground. If the fight stayed standing then yes Anderson would have the advantage but Jones trained by Greg Jackson would not keep that fight standing.

Bones wrestling didn't look that outstanding against Page, he was able to stuff his shots.
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Jon Jones if he beats Rashad Evans=

Rashad Evans
Maurício Rua
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Anderson Silva=

Dan Henderson
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Jones' top 3 victories would be much more impressive than Anderson's especially since Sonnen dominated Anderson.

Dan Henderson is one of the greatest fighters of all time, Silva's win over him trumps anything Bones has done at the moment.
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this would be a fight were I actuallly cheer for Anderson
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freakzilla wrote:
Jon Jones if he beats Rashad Evans=

Rashad Evans
Maurício Rua
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Anderson Silva=

Dan Henderson
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Jones' top 3 victories would be much more impressive than Anderson's especially since Sonnen dominated Anderson.

Dan Henderson is one of the greatest fighters of all time, Silva's win over him trumps anything Bones has done at the moment.

No. First of all Hendo is much better at 205 than 185. Also at that time Hendo was going through a rough patch.
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freakzilla wrote:
If Sonnen was able to keep Anderson down for 5 rounds then Jones could do it even easier. Sonnen is very weak when it comes to sub defense. We have never seen Jones in any trouble on the ground. If the fight stayed standing then yes Anderson would have the advantage but Jones trained by Greg Jackson would not keep that fight standing.

Bones wrestling didn't look that outstanding against Page, he was able to stuff his shots.

Rampage has a wrestling background which is something Anderson doesn't.
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freakzilla wrote:
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freakzilla wrote:
Jon Jones if he beats Rashad Evans=

Rashad Evans
Maurício Rua
Quinton Jackson

Anderson Silva=

Dan Henderson
Vitor Belfort
Chael Sonnen

Jones' top 3 victories would be much more impressive than Anderson's especially since Sonnen dominated Anderson.

Dan Henderson is one of the greatest fighters of all time, Silva's win over him trumps anything Bones has done at the moment.

No. First of all Hendo is much better at 205 than 185. Also at that time Hendo was going through a rough patch.

LOL please.

I guess GSP was going through a tough time when he fought Hughes and Serra.
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GSP was nowhere near as good then as he is now.
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freakzilla wrote:
If Sonnen was able to keep Anderson down for 5 rounds then Jones could do it even easier. Sonnen is very weak when it comes to sub defense. We have never seen Jones in any trouble on the ground. If the fight stayed standing then yes Anderson would have the advantage but Jones trained by Greg Jackson would not keep that fight standing.

We've never seen Jones on the ground with any legitimate BJJ players. That division doesn't even really have any that come to mind immediately. Sonnen also has some of the best top control in all of MMA, so I'm not sure what that first statement is really supposed to mean
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Jones is way bigger than Sonnen and is a great wrestler so if he took Anderson down then Anderson wont be escaping.
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If Sonnen was able to keep Anderson down for 5 rounds then Jones could do it even easier. Sonnen is very weak when it comes to sub defense. We have never seen Jones in any trouble on the ground. If the fight stayed standing then yes Anderson would have the advantage but Jones trained by Greg Jackson would not keep that fight standing.

We've never seen Jones on the ground with any legitimate BJJ players. That division doesn't even really have any that come to mind immediately. Sonnen also has some of the best top control in all of MMA, so I'm not sure what that first statement is really supposed to mean

Shogun has pretty damn legit BJJ. He's not world class or anything, but neither is Anderson Silva.
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If Sonnen was able to keep Anderson down for 5 rounds then Jones could do it even easier. Sonnen is very weak when it comes to sub defense. We have never seen Jones in any trouble on the ground. If the fight stayed standing then yes Anderson would have the advantage but Jones trained by Greg Jackson would not keep that fight standing.

We've never seen Jones on the ground with any legitimate BJJ players. That division doesn't even really have any that come to mind immediately. Sonnen also has some of the best top control in all of MMA, so I'm not sure what that first statement is really supposed to mean

Shogun has pretty damn legit BJJ. He's not world class or anything, but neither is Anderson Silva.

He's become pretty much a one-trick pony with the whole dive under for a leg and look to sweep thing though. That's all he tries to do and Jones totally shut it down and knew exactly what was coming. Anderson is definitely a greater threat to sub off of his back
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If Sonnen was able to keep Anderson down for 5 rounds then Jones could do it even easier. Sonnen is very weak when it comes to sub defense. We have never seen Jones in any trouble on the ground. If the fight stayed standing then yes Anderson would have the advantage but Jones trained by Greg Jackson would not keep that fight standing.

We've never seen Jones on the ground with any legitimate BJJ players. That division doesn't even really have any that come to mind immediately. Sonnen also has some of the best top control in all of MMA, so I'm not sure what that first statement is really supposed to mean

Shogun has pretty damn legit BJJ. He's not world class or anything, but neither is Anderson Silva.

He's become pretty much a one-trick pony with the whole dive under for a leg and look to sweep thing though. That's all he tries to do and Jones totally shut it down and knew exactly what was coming. Anderson is definitely a greater threat to sub off of his back

Agreed
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