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PostSubject: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 3:48 am

He would only fight Rampage if it was for the title. Says he would destroy Rua and submit King Mo. Also says Chuck has a suspect chin and he could KO him.

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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 7:29 am

Even wolf think Tito is full of bull crap.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 9:09 am

I think Tito has a chance in all those fights and want fighters being confident and think fans who use "delusional" in general in this context only do so against fighters they hate. Everyone in the UFC should say they'd destroy the champ tomorrow. I like fighters and fighting.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 11:37 am

I think this is Tito being Tito. He could possibly sub Mo, the rest, I don't believe so.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 11:44 am

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I think this is Tito being Tito. He could possibly sub Mo, the rest, I don't believe so.
I think Mo would beat the shit out of Tito. Shocking I know.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 11:55 am

Mo has looked like a gasser though. So he could get tapped late, possibly.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:13 pm

Tito is still a top ten caliber fighter, and if Coleman nearly beat Shogun, Tito would smash him. The Shogun that showed against Griffin, Coleman and Jones would get crushed by Tito if he brought his A game.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:17 pm

LOL I love how Tito all the sudden has new life. Just because Bader has no heart. Thanks Bader.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:19 pm

OU wrote:
LOL I love how Tito all the sudden has new life. Just because Bader has no heart. Thanks Bader.
your hate for tito is just annoying at this point, its not like he got his ASS WHOOPED in the fights he lost!
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:24 pm

OU, Ortiz has been competitive in his losses to top talent and has the most UFC wins of any LHW fighting in the UFC. If Tito was tremendously overrated or something, I could get you, but that just isn't the case.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:26 pm

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OU, Ortiz has been competitive in his losses to top talent and has the most UFC wins of any LHW fighting in the UFC. If Tito was tremendously overrated or something, I could get you, but that just isn't the case.
He's a chuck fan, of coarse he's gonna hate on Tito like he is... its a given lol
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:27 pm

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OU wrote:
LOL I love how Tito all the sudden has new life. Just because Bader has no heart. Thanks Bader.
your hate for tito is just annoying at this point, its not like he got his ASS WHOOPED in the fights he lost!
What is annoying is seeing people overreact to Tito's 1 win in the last 6 years. That fight showed me more about Bader then it did about Tito. Tito Ortiz is still an irrelevant fighter who is being overrated.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:29 pm

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OU, Ortiz has been competitive in his losses to top talent and has the most UFC wins of any LHW fighting in the UFC. If Tito was tremendously overrated or something, I could get you, but that just isn't the case.
I pray that Tito Ortiz somehow matchups up with Rich Franklin, just so you guys can see how that would really play out. Oh and Tito is being overrated at this point, the classic post card overreaction from the fans.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:30 pm

Yea, this is why Chuck Liddell partisans come across as braindead as their hero is these days. Deflating Ortiz takes away two of Chuck's very best wins and the two wins that essentially affirmed him as the number 1 LHW. Chuck fanboys should be propping dude up.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:31 pm

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Wolfgangsta wrote:
OU, Ortiz has been competitive in his losses to top talent and has the most UFC wins of any LHW fighting in the UFC. If Tito was tremendously overrated or something, I could get you, but that just isn't the case.
I pray that Tito Ortiz somehow matchups up with Rich Franklin, just so you guys can see how that would really play out. Oh and Tito is being overrated at this point, the classic post card overreaction from the fans.

I've never seen a postcard with an overreaction on it. If Tito sucks, then so does your mohawk boi.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:31 pm

What does Bader's heart have to do with anything? It was the first round like 3 minutes into the fight
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:35 pm

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Yea, this is why Chuck Liddell partisans come across as braindead as their hero is these days. Deflating Ortiz takes away two of Chuck's very best wins and the two wins that essentially affirmed him as the number 1 LHW. Chuck fanboys should be propping dude up.
Chuck showed Tito wasn't even close to his level, couldn't even swing off his nuts. I'm not going to prop up someone who is still a shell of himself. Tito had his day, but that is long gone. The man you see today is not an elite fighter.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:37 pm

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What does Bader's heart have to do with anything? It was the first round like 3 minutes into the fight
Bader was stunned but already fully recovered when he stuck his neck out for Tito to take, then he pretended like he wanted to get out but it was clearly an act. Bader is a front runner who relies on athletic ability to win a fight. Get in trouble and he wants out. The same scared Bader we saw vs Bones. Mentally weak.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:40 pm

Listen to this guy.

OU, is Rashad or Forrest elite?
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:42 pm

Tito, when healthy is a tough nut to crack. At his age, it is difficult to stay healthy...
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 2:44 pm

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Listen to this guy.

OU, is Rashad or Forrest elite?
That Rashad fight was 4 years ago, he was still a developing fighter at that point. He wasn't elite at that point in time. If they fought today Rashad would brutally rape him. The Forrest fight was more impressive to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:25 pm

at this point in his career page would decision him. a prime tito though would beat page. same thing against shogun. as for the chuck comment,yes now days chucks chin is gone. so here is how it goes

old tito vs todays page = page by dec
old tito vs todays shogun = shogun by dec
old tito vs todays shad = shad by dec
old tito vs todays forrest = we saw this , forrest by dec
old tito vs old chuck = tito by dec, possibly tko

prime tito vs prime page = tito by dec
prime tito vs prime shogun = tito sub
prime tito vs prime shad = tito by dec
prime tito vs prime forrest = tito by dec
prime tito vs prime chuck = we saw that, chuck by tko
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 4:30 pm

Tito would have never beat Page
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bobbitt15 wrote:
Tito would have never beat Page


shad did. i could see a fight with tito look somewhat alike
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PostSubject: Re: Tito: delusional or realistic?   Tito: delusional or realistic? EmptyTue Jul 12, 2011 7:02 pm

Page loses fights he shouldn't all the time. Tito vs Page has Page as the favorite, but if Tito won it wouldn't be a shock to me. Not with fighters of this caliber.
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