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I'm honestly surprised there's that much bitching for the biggest star in women's MMA being on the main card instead of two LWs that would be very fortunate to even be ranked top 20. This is a pretty cut and dry issue here

bobbitt15 wrote:

I'm honestly surprised there's that much bitching for the biggest star in women's MMA being on the main card instead of two LWs that would be very fortunate to even be ranked top 20. This is a pretty cut and dry issue here

You mean BBC right? Who else was bitching about Gina on the main card?

OU wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

I'm honestly surprised there's that much bitching for the biggest star in women's MMA being on the main card instead of two LWs that would be very fortunate to even be ranked top 20. This is a pretty cut and dry issue here

You mean BBC right? Who else was bitching about Gina on the main card?

Of course he means me. That's okay though. You guys clearly would rather have Kimbo fighting a can on a main card if he came back next week right. I can tell it's all about popularity and ratings with you guys. It's a good business decision to have Gina on the main card, but a hardcore fan such as myself doesn't agree with it and I could care less about some chick who made her career out of good looks and being fed cans before getting exposed by a real fighter.

Bobbit put down the crack pipe also. All four are top 10 in SF, and the winner of KJ vs Masvidal should get the next crack at Gilbert. KJ will get the shot if he wins imo.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

I'm honestly surprised there's that much bitching for the biggest star in women's MMA being on the main card instead of two LWs that would be very fortunate to even be ranked top 20. This is a pretty cut and dry issue here

You mean BBC right? Who else was bitching about Gina on the main card?

Of course he means me. That's okay though. You guys clearly would rather have Kimbo fighting a can on a main card if he came back next week right. I can tell it's all about popularity and ratings with you guys. It's a good business decision to have Gina on the main card, but a hardcore fan such as myself doesn't agree with it and I could care less about some chick who made her career out of good looks and being fed cans before getting exposed by a real fighter.

Bobbit put down the crack pipe also. All four are top 10 in SF, and the winner of KJ vs Masvidal should get the next crack at Gilbert. KJ will get the shot if he wins imo.

KIMBOS COMING BACK??? im buying this PPV for damn sure!

Oh and I am not bitching about it. I'm just doing what we do here at NP. We disagree about things and discuss why we do. Unfortunately for you guys I am always right. Women are allowed to vote now, so I am not gonna glorify the female version of Kimbo Slice just because you guys want to put womens MMA on the same pedestal as mens MMA. I don't hate womens MMA, I just don't agree with the Gina situation is all.

Are you comparing Kimbo to Gina? Gina is closer to Brock then she is Kimbo.

killerofchicken wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

I'm honestly surprised there's that much bitching for the biggest star in women's MMA being on the main card instead of two LWs that would be very fortunate to even be ranked top 20. This is a pretty cut and dry issue here

You mean BBC right? Who else was bitching about Gina on the main card?

Of course he means me. That's okay though. You guys clearly would rather have Kimbo fighting a can on a main card if he came back next week right. I can tell it's all about popularity and ratings with you guys. It's a good business decision to have Gina on the main card, but a hardcore fan such as myself doesn't agree with it and I could care less about some chick who made her career out of good looks and being fed cans before getting exposed by a real fighter.

Bobbit put down the crack pipe also. All four are top 10 in SF, and the winner of KJ vs Masvidal should get the next crack at Gilbert. KJ will get the shot if he wins imo.

KIMBOS COMING BACK??? im buying this PPV for damn sure!

Very true and he is fighting Gabe Rudigers number 1 student who has two professional fights and is 1-1 with 1 no contest. This is the kinda fight OU and Bobbit salivate over.

OU wrote:

Are you comparing Kimbo to Gina? Gina is closer to Brock then she is Kimbo.

Gina hasn't fought the competition Brock has fought. She fought the competition that Kimbo fought. The only reason I would say she is closer to brock is because they are both white. Gina is way more like Kimbo then Brock. Delete this post OU. You just made the whole damn forum dumb by posting that.

are you saying that Gina has no MMA skill? because she really does, and she's only lost to Cyborg... and everyone loses to him

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

Are you comparing Kimbo to Gina? Gina is closer to Brock then she is Kimbo.

Gina hasn't fought the competition Brock has fought. She fought the competition that Kimbo fought. The only reason I would say she is closer to brock is because they are both white. Gina is way more like Kimbo then Brock. Delete this post OU. You just made the whole damn forum dumb by posting that.

You sir are making an ass out of yourself. Comparing Gina who has legit skills as a top level mix martial artists to a glorified street fighter. Check yourself because you are the one lowering the IQ of everyone around with your blind hate of a legit fighter.

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

Are you comparing Kimbo to Gina? Gina is closer to Brock then she is Kimbo.

Gina hasn't fought the competition Brock has fought. She fought the competition that Kimbo fought. The only reason I would say she is closer to brock is because they are both white. Gina is way more like Kimbo then Brock. Delete this post OU. You just made the whole damn forum dumb by posting that.

You sir are making an ass out of yourself. Comparing Gina who has legit skills as a top level mix martial artists to a glorified street fighter. Check yourself because you are the one lowering the IQ of everyone around with your blind hate of a legit fighter.

That is impossible because that would mean I am wrong. We all know better. :bow))):

I'm only comparing the fact of them being fighters that bring viewers. I would imagine if we looked up the gal's Gina has fought combined we wouldn't be impressed with their resume's. I could be wrong though. We can't count Cyborg either because we wll knew what happened that night. Gina was an amatuer that night fighting the future of women's MMA. In about ten years there will be alot of women who are as athletic and badass as Cyborg. Those women will show you that Women's MMA the last 5 years doesn't compare. That's what I think anyways and I could be wrong. I just listen to what DW says and I follow.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

ehh thats debatable, considering COenen has only looked better since the Cyborg fight, wasnt at her weight real weight class, subbed the girl everyone thought was ready for Cyborg, and gave Cyborg the most trouble she has seen in the last couple years.

and it was in the 3rd round vs Cyborg with about a minute left. If anyones going to beat Cyborg its going to be Marloes Coenen.

3-1 oin her last 4 fights, wins over Modafferi and Kaufman, plus shes actually kinda pretty, cooler than Cyborg, Ill always be a fan of the crafty ground wizard over the massive bulldog

Cyborg still beats her down now. Cyborg has improved more since that fight imo and she tko's Coenen within two rounds imo. I'll take the bulldog.

Coenen was close to the 4th round , and Cyborg has only fought Jan Finney, a moving punching bag, Coenens had the better wins since that fight.

Birdofthad wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

ehh thats debatable, considering COenen has only looked better since the Cyborg fight, wasnt at her weight real weight class, subbed the girl everyone thought was ready for Cyborg, and gave Cyborg the most trouble she has seen in the last couple years.

and it was in the 3rd round vs Cyborg with about a minute left. If anyones going to beat Cyborg its going to be Marloes Coenen.

3-1 oin her last 4 fights, wins over Modafferi and Kaufman, plus shes actually kinda pretty, cooler than Cyborg, Ill always be a fan of the crafty ground wizard over the massive bulldog

Cyborg still beats her down now. Cyborg has improved more since that fight imo and she tko's Coenen within two rounds imo. I'll take the bulldog.

Coenen was close to the 4th round , and Cyborg has only fought Jan Finney, a moving punching bag, Coenens had the better wins since that fight.

If they fight we have a sig bet then sir! Coenen is a badass so I will give you that.

Holy fucking shit BBC is a blithering moron of epic proportions.

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My whole problem with this is how you guys can justify Gina coming back after nearly two years out and fighting on a main card against a can. Atleast Cung came back and fought Scott Smith, and even then he didn't get his ass handed to him like he had never been in a fight before he left for a year. Gina got taken to school when she took on real competition. When a popular fighter who has been fed cans to gain popularity, then gets her ass stomped, retires for 20-24 months and comes back to be put on a main card against a nobody over some of the guys on that card, I have a problem with it. That's all.

Smith vs Le was exactly this type of fight dude. Smith, being a flat footed punching bag was there for one reason ; lose to Le. And Le was embarrassing him until he gassed out and got caught. Ring Rust.


6 of Gina's 8 opponents were ranked in the top ten at the time they fought at either 135 or 145. Matter of fact she has one of the best WMMA resumes out there. Without a doubt she is the second best 145'r ever in WMMA. She has one loss, to Chris fucking Cyborg, the same bitch to beats everyone's face in. I would recommend you actually fucking watch Gina fight or learn about MMA before you come on here polluting the place with your idiocy.

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Gina hasn't fought the competition Brock has fought. She fought the competition that Kimbo fought. The only reason I would say she is closer to brock is because they are both white. Gina is way more like Kimbo then Brock. Delete this post OU. You just made the whole damn forum dumb by posting that.

BBC giving freak a run for his money for the title of "Most Ignorant Baseless Opinions Posted".

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I would imagine if we looked up the gal's Gina has fought combined we wouldn't be impressed with their resume's. I could be wrong though

You are.

BBC I went ahead and did your research for you.



Win 7–0 Kelly Kobold Decision (unanimous) EliteXC: Heat 02008-10-04 October 4, 2008 3 3:00 Sunrise, Florida, United States

Kobold was also a top fighter at the time with a win over Shayna Braszler and tough losses to Kedzie and LaRosa. She was legit. Don't think she was top ten at the time but she very well could have been. She was a legit fight regardless. Gina schooled her.

Win 6–0 Kaitlin Young TKO (doctor stoppage) EliteXC: Primetime 02008-05-31 May 31, 2008 2 3:00 Newark, New Jersey, United States

She's on a bit of a losing streak now against top competition but when she fought Carano this was right after she ran roughshod through a HookNShoot tournament where she stopped all her opponents including Meisha Takedown Tate who is next in line for Coenen's belt with a headkick. Was top ten then. Gina fucking schooled her.

Win 5–0 Tonya Evinger Submission (rear naked choke) EliteXC: Uprising 02007-09-15 September 15, 2007 1 2:53 Oahu, Hawaii, United States

Wins over Julie Kedzie in 2008 and Adriana Jenkins last year. Dropped a pair of fights to Alexis Davis in that time but is still a top female fighter. Gina schooled her on the ground when this bitch was supposed to have the advantage there.

Win 4–0 Julie Kedzie Decision (unanimous) EliteXC: Destiny 02007-02-10 February 10, 2007 3 3:00 Southaven, Mississippi, United States

Top ten in both SF weight classes currently. Trains out of Greg Jackson's camp. Schooled.

Win 3–0 Elaina Maxwell Decision (unanimous) Strikeforce: Triple Threat 02006-12-08 December 8, 2006 3 2:00 San Jose, California, United States

Ranked #8 at 145 currently. A 3 time San Shou world champ, trains under your mancrush, Cung Le. She Beat Alexis Davis last year. Gina schooled her in her third pro fight.

Win 2–0 Rosi Sexton KO (punch) World Pro Fighting Championships 1 02006-09-15 September 15, 2006 2 4:55 Las Vegas, Nevada, United States

Second fight of her career, against a top p4p fighter in WMMA. Gina was the larger fighter and couldn't make the 135 limit, but she dominated and knocked her the fuck out with a highlight reel punch that is straight out of Tank's highlight reel. Rosi's gone on to drop down from 135 while Gina moved up from there but this was still a good fight for her second career bout.

Win 1–0 Leiticia Pestova KO (punches and elbows) World Extreme Fighting 02006-06-10 June 10, 2006 1 0:38 Las Vegas, Nevada, United States

Debut fight. No info on it.

Like I said, I could be wrong about Gina's resume because I've watched her fight 3 times. That doesn't change the fact that she's fighting a can.

and the fact that some of you think it is relevant.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

I'm honestly surprised there's that much bitching for the biggest star in women's MMA being on the main card instead of two LWs that would be very fortunate to even be ranked top 20. This is a pretty cut and dry issue here

You mean BBC right? Who else was bitching about Gina on the main card?

Bobbit put down the crack pipe also. All four are top 10 in SF, and the winner of KJ vs Masvidal should get the next crack at Gilbert. KJ will get the shot if he wins imo.

Who cares about being top 10 in SF, its hard to even list 10 lightweights that fight for SF. I'm talking grand scheme, these guys probably aren't even top 20 material. Gina is money in the bank, huge on Showtime and she's making her comeback

She isn't a can. The fight wasn't announced until late April but she was mentioned along with one fighter she beat by womensmmaroundup in this vid before the fight was announced as talented fighters Strikeforce should sign.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4gYifvzALrE&v=4gYifvzALrE&gl=US

We need a couple girl fight nerds on the forum.

Sorry guys but it ain't for me. I guess I only like "big fights" when it comes to the ladies. You guys know I watch them fight when I can and don't hate it, but I still don't think the competition isn't at a high level. I was hyped up for Gina vs Cyborg but after seeing a cute chick get beat like that made me think Gina should give it up. I am not buying the comeback and I don't care for this fight.


Oh did I mention she is fighting a can? I don't care what some forum said about this chick. Gina shouldn't be fighting a noob if this is the big comeback. Give her a known name on this card and I wouldn't have as much of a problem.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Sorry guys but it ain't for me. I guess I only like "big fights" when it comes to the ladies. You guys know I watch them fight when I can and don't hate it, but I still don't think the competition isn't at a high level. I was hyped up for Gina vs Cyborg but after seeing a cute chick get beat like that made me think Gina should give it up. I am not buying the comeback and I don't care for this fight.


Oh did I mention she is fighting a can? I don't care what some forum said about this chick. Gina shouldn't be fighting a noob if this is the big comeback. Give her a known name on this card and I wouldn't have as much of a problem.

Gina was hanging in there until Cyborg turned it up. You think just because she wasn't able to beat Cyborg she shouldn't be fighting? You seem to imply that Gina was a fake? Comparing her to Kimbo then saying she needed to quit after being exposed? Then I guess Thiago Alves should go ahead and retire because he will never beat GSP or Fitch. Tons of other WW and MW out there need to hang them up too I guess. Gina is probably still a top 5 woman's fighter in the World. You are totally down playing what skills she has. She is more then just a pretty face.

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Sorry guys but it ain't for me. I guess I only like "big fights" when it comes to the ladies. You guys know I watch them fight when I can and don't hate it, but I still don't think the competition isn't at a high level. I was hyped up for Gina vs Cyborg but after seeing a cute chick get beat like that made me think Gina should give it up. I am not buying the comeback and I don't care for this fight.


Oh did I mention she is fighting a can? I don't care what some forum said about this chick. Gina shouldn't be fighting a noob if this is the big comeback. Give her a known name on this card and I wouldn't have as much of a problem.

Gina was hanging in there until Cyborg turned it up. You think just because she wasn't able to beat Cyborg she shouldn't be fighting? You seem to imply that Gina was a fake? Comparing her to Kimbo then saying she needed to quit after being exposed? Then I guess Thiago Alves should go ahead and retire because he will never beat GSP or Fitch. Tons of other WW and MW out there need to hang them up too I guess. Gina is probably still a top 5 woman's fighter in the World. You are totally down playing what skills she has. She is more then just a pretty face.

She gained popularity by having her good looks and I only compared the popularity factor of her and Kimbo. Since Gina is on the main card for her comeback fight she should be atleast fighting a known fighter imo.

BTW what is that in your sig? I know it's probably GOW but what's going on in the sig?

BBC is just exposing his idiocy to the rest of the forum, and it's not pretty. They can give Gina good fights with plenty of talented girls and he'd still criticize them because he doesn't know the first thing about WMMA. He criticized Kedzie being on the card against Nunes originally because he knew nothing of her. He says Gina should be fighting a known name, yet he didn't know a single chick on her record and thought they were all cans. Seriously we need to stop talking to his ass on the subject.

Her opponent now isn't a can either. She beat Raquel Pa'aluhi who is another talked about prospect.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Sorry guys but it ain't for me. I guess I only like "big fights" when it comes to the ladies. You guys know I watch them fight when I can and don't hate it, but I still don't think the competition isn't at a high level. I was hyped up for Gina vs Cyborg but after seeing a cute chick get beat like that made me think Gina should give it up. I am not buying the comeback and I don't care for this fight.


Oh did I mention she is fighting a can? I don't care what some forum said about this chick. Gina shouldn't be fighting a noob if this is the big comeback. Give her a known name on this card and I wouldn't have as much of a problem.

Gina was hanging in there until Cyborg turned it up. You think just because she wasn't able to beat Cyborg she shouldn't be fighting? You seem to imply that Gina was a fake? Comparing her to Kimbo then saying she needed to quit after being exposed? Then I guess Thiago Alves should go ahead and retire because he will never beat GSP or Fitch. Tons of other WW and MW out there need to hang them up too I guess. Gina is probably still a top 5 woman's fighter in the World. You are totally down playing what skills she has. She is more then just a pretty face.

She gained popularity by having her good looks and I only compared the popularity factor of her and Kimbo. Since Gina is on the main card for her comeback fight she should be atleast fighting a known fighter imo.

BTW what is that in your sig? I know it's probably GOW but what's going on in the sig?

But who qualifies as a known fighter when you don't know the first fucking thing about any women's fighting? Shut the fuck up dude. You're being slaughtered here and moving the goalposts. Know when it is time to throw the towel homie.