What MMA welterweights would beat GSP in a K-1 match.

And why do I get the feeling that the "GSP was scared of Jake's guard/sub game" mythology is about to show its horrible, ugly and unfounded head.

I never said he was scared of Jake's ground game. Check My breakdown of that fight on the blog and you'll have a different perspective on My opinions as far as that goes. I don't believe for a second GSP had anything to be worried about on the ground. What I do believe is that the threat of being taken down when that isn't where he wants to be will effect a fighter's mentality and behavior. Having to be cautious of the takedown changes things just like it did for Alves when he fought GSP.

Machida is vulnerable in brawls. Shogun forced him into one the second time around and it didn't work out so well for Lyoto now did it? When was the last time Mayweather engaged in a brawl? Mosely cracked him with a good shot that scared the hell out of everyone who bet Mayweather early on but that was hardly a brawl. Lets not act like the technical purist is vastly superior to the dogfighter when emotions take over. At that point it's anyone's game.

I get that. But I am saying good luck with that. Everyone is in danger in brawls. Which is why these niggas don't engage in brawls(cept that one w Shogun). GSP would never ever brawl with Diaz. Ever. Never. Diaz needs that to find success. GSP pokes him in the nose for three three minute K-1 rounds and lands a few karate sweeps.

would do the same to Alves. In a k-1 fight there wouldn't be enough time for Alves leg kicks to really do enough damage. Because if he started throwing them a lot GSP would counter. GSP wins a UFC/Strikeforce K-1 tournament in dominant fashion.

Diaz is at a disadvantage because he doesn't throw as many kicks and relies solely on crowding his opponent and overwhelming them with shots from all angles. GSP isn't going to just cover up and try to weather the storm like that. He's going to purposely stay away and use his kicks and a long jab. However against someone who has just as many kicks as he does along with the ability/drive to bulldoze forward that strategy doesn't work the same.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

would do the same to Alves. In a k-1 fight there wouldn't be enough time for Alves leg kicks to really do enough damage. Because if he started throwing them a lot GSP would counter. GSP wins a UFC/Strikeforce K-1 tournament in dominant fashion.

I'm saying it's not that simple. A perfect example of how things can degrade and quickly despite an overwhelming disparity in technical skill is Frank Shamrock vs Cung Le. Cung was the clear winner of two rounds, making it look almost too easy and then he gets caught with something, pressed against the fence and drawn into something he wanted no part of. For a little bit you'd think Cung and Frank weren't so far apart as far as strikers go simply because when the shit hits the fan the technically superior fighter is at a disadvantage to the guy who fights the ugly fight.

Frank was standing with him most of that fight pretty competitively and for a half second there landed something decent. Nothing else.


GSP's skillset is geared as such that he would easily transfer his dominance over other mma fighters to the standing realm.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Frank was standing with him most of that fight pretty competitively and for a half second there landed something decent. Nothing else.


GSP's skillset is geared as such that he would easily transfer his dominance over other mma fighters to the standing realm.

What we're essentially talking about here is something similar to Lyoto Machida vs Thiago Silva. Would you completely count Silva out? I wouldn't. Because that would be a fight, much like GSP vs Thiago Alves in a striking fight, that isn't over until the very end. It's about more than just technical superiority. Nobody has said GSP isn't an amazingly skilled athlete with elite technical ability. What I'm saying is in a pure striking battle being technically superior isn't always enough because when you match a technical master with a brawler who fights in the trenches nothing is certain. What it comes down to is who can pull the other guy into they're realm.

GSP won 33 rounds in a row (August 5th 2007) in the UFC until losing sight in one of his eyes.

So you know what that means... He's good... real good.

GDPofDRC wrote:

GSP won 33 rounds in a row (August 5th 2007) in the UFC until losing sight in one of his eyes.

So you know what that means... He's good... real good.

but only because of his fragile boring takedowns

Wolfgangsta wrote:

The notion that Diaz is immune to punches is ridiculous when he has been planted on his ass numerous times in recent fights and his career. He'd never stay close enough to pressure GSP. All his aggression would do is get his face fucked up with super man jabs. Again, Diaz traps guys against the fence and unloads or gets them in exchanges. GSP doesn't get trapped against the fence and he never exchanges combinations. GSP's game is almost immune to Diaz's.

Diaz's reach allows him to pummel fighters at distance. His aggression gets him into slugfests, and yeah he will take punches, but in all these recent fights u talk about in which Diaz was dropped, he went on to finish that opponent in short order. But Diaz has the ability to work from distance.

It will be MUCH more difficult for GSP to maintain space and still be effective vs a long armed Diaz then it is vs the shorter armed Alves Penn or Kos.

Diaz is suddenly dhalsim now. Yea you're right Diaz have a few inches in reach will cause GSP to become flat footed and engage. I believe ya capt.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Diaz is suddenly dhalsim now. Yea you're right Diaz have a few inches in reach will cause GSP to become flat footed and engage. I believe ya capt.

so u expect GSP to stand with Diaz? Highly doubtful. He knows whats up.

He stands with everyone else for a while. Guess you forgot about that too. I am talking in a kickboxing match.

Frank stood with Cung and looked good for a lil over a minute in the 3rd round. Other then that Frank was dog shit. I'm starting to think they fought two times and I saw one of them and the rest of you watched the other. I know darn well I have watched that fight 10-15 times in the last couple of years.

and save the bbc loves Cung jokes Wolf, we already know I would fuck Cung Le if the "oppurtunity" came upon me.

What are we even babbling reach for, GSP has a longer reach than Diaz.

GSP 76 inches.

Nick Diaz 74 inches.