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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Rank these welterweights Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:50 pm | |
| The WW division has gotten a lot of play here at Ninjasplace lately with some spirited debates. Rank these and only these welterweights from best to worst skill for skill out of this group. In other words, do not base the rankings on their real life WW rankings which are at the mercy of the promotion they are in and who they have fought recently. This isn't easy though, as Hardy is my kneejerk best fighter when I first typed the list, but then again Askren would maul him soundly already based on the matchup issue imo.
I expect opinions on these fighters to vary wildly.
Ben Askren Lyman Good Martin Kampmann Dan Hardy Carlos Condit Dan Hornbuckle Maruis Zaromskis Johny Hendricks Paulo Thiago | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:55 pm | |
| Askren #1 after that it's difficult | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:07 pm | |
| Carlos Condit Martin Kampmann Dan Hardy Ben Askren Paulo Thiago Dan Hornbuckle Johny Hendricks Maruis Zaromskis Lyman Good | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:17 pm | |
| Not saying you didn't know, but it's who beats who kind of thing, resume not included, Askren would take Condit, Kamp and Hardy down at will. | |
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:21 pm | |
| Honestly, i'm so embarrased by Zaromskis that all i know is that he's ranked last of all those guys....he needs to kick somebody's head off pronto. | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:24 pm | |
| i recognize askren's skill, but don't get out of control. Condit is a seasoned veteran an no one takes him out easily. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:39 pm | |
| The way Condit was getting taken down by Rory, would have me worried if he were fighting Askren.
Kings I agree, I was gonna put him last or tied with Good. | |
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Bigs03 Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Fedor and GSP Posts : 3124 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 44 Location : Houston, TX
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:02 am | |
| The Askren nut hugging is seriously out of control. Can't say I'm surprised, though.
He had an impressive performance, doesn't mean he's gonna be the next GSP. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:39 am | |
| Is GSP on that list bigs?
No one "nut hugged" him or said anything that wasn't rational. Askren hater on a hair trigger in da house.
I know it is premature to say how could he could or could not be with five fights, but this kid is a legitimate prospect of the highest order. Maybe if he had five fights, wrestling not this good, a submission loss and a chest tat of a human weiner we could say he would beat the best P4P fighters and WWs of all time. Ben Askren has Brockpowers. | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:52 am | |
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GolbeZ Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Condit, Machida, Aldo, Bendo, KJ Noons, Dominick Cruz The Praying Mantis Posts : 3139 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Austin
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:03 am | |
| condit kamp askren hardy paulo hornbuckle hendricks good zaromskis | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:05 am | |
| Is there any reason for a man to nuthug a guy like Condit other than being a secret identity?
Carlos? That you? | |
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GolbeZ Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Condit, Machida, Aldo, Bendo, KJ Noons, Dominick Cruz The Praying Mantis Posts : 3139 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Austin
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:18 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Is there any reason for a man to nuthug a guy like Condit other than being a secret identity?
Carlos? That you? Did you expect something different in my rankings? Condit being the best fighter among that group is not far-fetched.. You said in your OP to put aside current rankings.. I have Hardy and Kamp ranked higher than condit.. but Condit really beat Kamp and can beat Hardy as well. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:28 am | |
| Condit vs. Hornbuckle would be a dope fight
I have Condit higher up and he has more notable wins, but still that'd be a great fight | |
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GolbeZ Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Condit, Machida, Aldo, Bendo, KJ Noons, Dominick Cruz The Praying Mantis Posts : 3139 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Austin
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:29 am | |
| - tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- Condit vs. Hornbuckle would be a dope fight
I have Condit higher up and he has more notable wins, but still that'd be a great fight agree. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:30 am | |
| Askren vs. Hendricks Kampmann vs. Hardy Condit vs. Hornbuckle Good vs. Zaromskis | |
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GolbeZ Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Condit, Machida, Aldo, Bendo, KJ Noons, Dominick Cruz The Praying Mantis Posts : 3139 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 38 Location : Austin
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:36 am | |
| - tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- Askren vs. Hendricks
Kampmann vs. Hardy Condit vs. Hornbuckle Good vs. Zaromskis I would watch all of those. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:46 am | |
| It'd be a solid set of fights, thought about Thiago vs. Zarom, but was trying to think of another guy for him | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:09 am | |
| Oh I agree, Condit is good and you could make a case for him, but I was refering to that, and the pic in your av, and your constant level-5 attachment to his nutsack. Do you like, know him or something? | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: Rank these welterweights Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:53 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- The WW division has gotten a lot of play here at Ninjasplace lately with some spirited debates. Rank these and only these welterweights from best to worst skill for skill out of this group. In other words, do not base the rankings on their real life WW rankings which are at the mercy of the promotion they are in and who they have fought recently. This isn't easy though, as Hardy is my kneejerk best fighter when I first typed the list, but then again Askren would maul him soundly already based on the matchup issue imo.
I expect opinions on these fighters to vary wildly.
Ben Askren Lyman Good Martin Kampmann Dan Hardy Carlos Condit Dan Hornbuckle Maruis Zaromskis Johny Hendricks Paulo Thiago Askren, fuck ya i said it, and its fucking true Dan Hardy - hey he just went 5 with GSP, who else has on this list Martin Kampmann - just keeps winning Lyman GOod - maybe a bit to high but hes undefeated and a tough guy Dan Hornbuckle -Sengoku vet, tough man Carlos Condit - lucky win but he is toug all around Zaromskis - another grinder like Kampmann Johny Hendricks - regressed since Sadollah imo Paulo Thiago - was real high on him but looked like shit last fight | |
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