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PostSubject: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 10:50 pm

The WW division has gotten a lot of play here at Ninjasplace lately with some spirited debates. Rank these and only these welterweights from best to worst skill for skill out of this group. In other words, do not base the rankings on their real life WW rankings which are at the mercy of the promotion they are in and who they have fought recently. This isn't easy though, as Hardy is my kneejerk best fighter when I first typed the list, but then again Askren would maul him soundly already based on the matchup issue imo.

I expect opinions on these fighters to vary wildly.

Ben Askren
Lyman Good
Martin Kampmann
Dan Hardy
Carlos Condit
Dan Hornbuckle
Maruis Zaromskis
Johny Hendricks
Paulo Thiago
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 10:55 pm

Askren #1 after that it's difficult
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 11:07 pm

Carlos Condit
Martin Kampmann
Dan Hardy
Ben Askren
Paulo Thiago
Dan Hornbuckle
Johny Hendricks
Maruis Zaromskis
Lyman Good
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 11:17 pm

Not saying you didn't know, but it's who beats who kind of thing, resume not included, Askren would take Condit, Kamp and Hardy down at will.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 11:21 pm

Honestly, i'm so embarrased by Zaromskis that all i know is that he's ranked last of all those guys....he needs to kick somebody's head off pronto.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 11:24 pm

i recognize askren's skill, but don't get out of control. Condit is a seasoned veteran an no one takes him out easily.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 11:39 pm

The way Condit was getting taken down by Rory, would have me worried if he were fighting Askren.

Kings I agree, I was gonna put him last or tied with Good.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 12:02 am

The Askren nut hugging is seriously out of control. Can't say I'm surprised, though.

He had an impressive performance, doesn't mean he's gonna be the next GSP.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 1:39 am

Is GSP on that list bigs?



No one "nut hugged" him or said anything that wasn't rational. Askren hater on a hair trigger in da house.

I know it is premature to say how could he could or could not be with five fights, but this kid is a legitimate prospect of the highest order. Maybe if he had five fights, wrestling not this good, a submission loss and a chest tat of a human weiner we could say he would beat the best P4P fighters and WWs of all time. Ben Askren has Brockpowers.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 1:52 am

I got Johnny # 1
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 2:03 am

condit
kamp
askren
hardy
paulo
hornbuckle
hendricks
good
zaromskis
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 2:05 am

Is there any reason for a man to nuthug a guy like Condit other than being a secret identity?


Carlos? That you?
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 2:18 am

Wolfgangsta wrote:
Is there any reason for a man to nuthug a guy like Condit other than being a secret identity?


Carlos? That you?

Did you expect something different in my rankings? Condit being the best fighter among that group is not far-fetched.. You said in your OP to put aside current rankings.. I have Hardy and Kamp ranked higher than condit.. but Condit really beat Kamp and can beat Hardy as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 2:28 am

Condit vs. Hornbuckle would be a dope fight

I have Condit higher up and he has more notable wins, but still that'd be a great fight
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 2:29 am

tolivendiewithLA wrote:
Condit vs. Hornbuckle would be a dope fight

I have Condit higher up and he has more notable wins, but still that'd be a great fight

agree.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 2:30 am

Askren vs. Hendricks
Kampmann vs. Hardy
Condit vs. Hornbuckle
Good vs. Zaromskis
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 2:36 am

tolivendiewithLA wrote:
Askren vs. Hendricks
Kampmann vs. Hardy
Condit vs. Hornbuckle
Good vs. Zaromskis

I would watch all of those.
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 2:46 am

It'd be a solid set of fights, thought about Thiago vs. Zarom, but was trying to think of another guy for him
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 3:09 am

Oh I agree, Condit is good and you could make a case for him, but I was refering to that, and the pic in your av, and your constant level-5 attachment to his nutsack.Razz Do you like, know him or something?
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PostSubject: Re: Rank these welterweights   Rank these welterweights EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 4:53 am

Wolfgangsta wrote:
The WW division has gotten a lot of play here at Ninjasplace lately with some spirited debates. Rank these and only these welterweights from best to worst skill for skill out of this group. In other words, do not base the rankings on their real life WW rankings which are at the mercy of the promotion they are in and who they have fought recently. This isn't easy though, as Hardy is my kneejerk best fighter when I first typed the list, but then again Askren would maul him soundly already based on the matchup issue imo.

I expect opinions on these fighters to vary wildly.

Ben Askren
Lyman Good
Martin Kampmann
Dan Hardy
Carlos Condit
Dan Hornbuckle
Maruis Zaromskis
Johny Hendricks
Paulo Thiago

Askren, fuck ya i said it, and its fucking true
Dan Hardy - hey he just went 5 with GSP, who else has on this list
Martin Kampmann - just keeps winning
Lyman GOod - maybe a bit to high but hes undefeated and a tough guy
Dan Hornbuckle -Sengoku vet, tough man
Carlos Condit - lucky win but he is toug all around
Zaromskis - another grinder like Kampmann
Johny Hendricks - regressed since Sadollah imo
Paulo Thiago - was real high on him but looked like shit last fight
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