Peter King may be wolfgangsta

Bird, its clear you only read websites that are purely left wing propaganda tools. Ayaan Hirsi Ali was raised as a Muslim in a Muslim country and is entitled to her own opinion regarding the religion. She is much more qualified then you or I to cast judgment. As for Dr. Jasser, he too is in a similar situation as Ali. Is it your contention that only those that tell you the version of Islam that you like to hear should be allowed to speak? I generally enjoy your posts, but you sound very close minded and irrational with regard to this topic.

ya how could i think Republicans were based on bigotry

I mean they just kinda were against segregation, civil rights and gay rights.

Birdofthad wrote:

jimbojones1950 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

of course Republicans dont care about the Klan, they openly had a leader of the Klan campaigning in their political party in the 1980s

This is laughable. If you knew anything about klan history in the US and its involvement in politics, you would know that the vast majority of klansman who were elected or appointed to high positions in this country were Democrats. Again, you rely on the argument that Republicans are motivated by racism and bigotry, which shows a clear indication that you are either unable or unwilling to understand the principles of conservatism and why certain positions are taken by Republicans.

COUGH COUGH COUGH DAVID DUKE

FORMER GRAND WIZARD OF KLU KLUX KLAN LOUISIANA REPUBLICAN LAST RAN FOR OFFICE 1992

Honestly, read a book on the subject and then come back. The Democrats have had presidential candidates and a Supreme Court Justice who were klansman. Again, if you knew anything about the klan, you would know that the Democrats have backed far more klansman then Republicans.

FDR appointed two notorious segregationists to the United States Supreme Court. Roosevelt appointed South Carolina segregationist Democrat Jimmy Byrnes to the court. Roosevelt later made Byrnes a top advisor, where the segregationist earned the nickname “assistant president.” Byrnes was Roosevelt’s second choice behind Harry Truman for the VP nod in his 1944 reelection bid. Roosevelt also appointed segregationist Democrat Senator Hugo Black of Alabama to the court. Black was a former member of the Ku Klux Klan with a notorious record of racism himself.

Hugo Black: A former Democrat Senator from Alabama and liberal U.S. Supreme Court Justice appointed by FDR, Hugo Black had a lengthy history of hate group activism. Black was a member of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920's and gained his legal fame defending Klansmen under prosecution for racial murders. In one prominent case, Black provided legal representation to Klansman Edwin Stephenson for the hate-induced murder of a Catholic priest in Birmingham. A jury composed of several Klan members acquited Stephenson of the murder, reportedly after Black expressed Klan gestures to the jury during the trial. In 1926 Black sought and won election as a Democrat to the United States Senate after campaigning heavily to Klan membership. He is said to have told one Klan audience "I desire to impress upon you as representatives of the real Anglo-Saxon sentiment that must and will control the destinies of the stars and stripes, that I want your counsel." In the Senate Black became a stauch supporter of the liberal New Deal initiatives of FDR and a solid opponent of civil rights legislation, including a filibuster of an anti-lynching measure. Black led the push for several New Deal programs and was a key participant in FDR's court packing scandal. Roosevelt appointed Black, a loyal ally, to the U.S. Supreme Court. During the Senate confirmation of Black's nomination, the issue of his strong Klan affiliations caused a public controversy over his appointment. Following the confirmation Roosevelt claimed ignorance of Black's Klan past, though this claim was dubious at best. Black's first Senate election, which occurred with Klan support, had been covered nationally a decade earlier in 1926. Black's Klan affiliations were a well known part of his political background and recieved heavy coverage in the newspapers at the time of his appointment. On the court, Black became a liberal stalwart. He also continued his career of supporting racism by authoring the opinion in favor of FDR's Japanese internment program in the infamous Korematsu ruling.

Senator Robert Byrd, D-WV: Byrd is a former member of the Ku Klux Klan and is currently the only national elected official with a history in the Klan, a well known hate group. Byrd was extremely active in the Klan and rose to the rank of “Kleagle,” an official Klan membership recruiter. Byrd once stated that he joined the Klan because it was effective in "promoting traditional American values" (Source). Byrd's choice of words speak volumes about his bigotry considering the fact that the Klan is a notorious hate group, and the racist "values" it promotes are anything but American. One of the earliest criticisms of Byrd's Klan ties came in 1952 when he was running for Congress. Byrd responded by claiming that he had left the Klan in 1943 while noting that "(d)uring the nine years that have followed, I have never been interested in the Klan." Byrd was lying, however, as he engaged in correspondence with a Klan Imperial Wizard long after he claims to have ended his ties with the hate group.

In a letter to the Klan leadership (Source) dated 3 years after he purported to have ended his ties with them, Byrd wrote "I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state. The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia." Byrd continued his racist diatribe "It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union" and followed with a request for assistance from the hate group's leadership in "rebuilding the Klan in the realm" of West Virginia.

Byrd's racism extends far beyond his Klan membership. In a letter he wrote on the subject of desegregating the armed forces, Byrd escalated his racist rhetoric to an appalling level. In the letter, Byrd vowed that he would never fight in an integrated armed services noting "(r)ather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds" (Source).

Byrd's racist opinions have shown their ugly face in his behavior in the Senate. Byrd led the filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and, according to the United States Senate's own website, filibustered the legislation to the bitter end appearing as one of the last opponents to the act before a coalition of civil rights proponents led by Republican Minority Leader Everett Dirksen invoked cloture so that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 could pass. At the time, Byrd was in the the midst of a 14 hour and 13 minute filibuster diatribe against the key civil rights measure (Source). Throughout the 1960's, Byrd was was one of the staunchest opponents to civil rights in the U.S. Senate. Byrd’s racist history drew attention recently when he went on national television and repeatedly used the n-word, one of the most vicious racial slurs in existence, in an appearance on national television. Byrd uttered the slur on Fox News Sunday with Tony Snow on March 5, 2001. Despite the appalling nature of the remark, it went largely ignored by the mainstream media and the self appointed "civil rights" leadership. Whereas a similar remark by anyone other than a leading Democrat Senator would assuredly prompt the likes of Jesse Jackson to assemble protest rallies demanding resignations, the Jackson crowd was eerily quiet following Byrd's remarks, issuing only low key suggestions that Byrd should avoid making such bigoted remarks.

In a sickening recognition of Byrd's appalling political career, the national Democrat party has done nothing but embrace the West Virginia senator with leadership roles and practically every honor imaginable. To this very day the Democrats call former Klansman turned U.S. Senator Robert Byrd the "conscience of the Senate." They have embraced him as their party's central pillar in all ways possible. Byrd has been reelected more times than any other Democrat senator, has served as a Democrat in Congress, a Democrat State Senator in West Virginia, and a Democrat State Delegate in West Virginia. Democrats have made repeatedly elected Byrd into their national party leadership and into the U.S. Senate leadership. He became secretary of the Senate Democrat Caucus in 1967, and Senate Democrat Whip in 1971. The Democrats elected former Klansman Byrd as their Senate Majority Leader from 1977-1980 and as their Senate Minority Leader from 1981-1986. Byrd was again elected Democrat Majority Leader from 1987-1988. Democrats made Byrd the chairman of the powerful Appropriations Committee and President Pro Tempore of the Senate from 1989 until the Republicans won control of the Senate in November 1994. Following the defection of Jim Jeffords in June 2001, the Democrats again made Byrd the chairman of the Appropriations Committee and elected him to the highest ranking office in the Senate: the President Pro Tempore, a position which also put this former Klansman 4th in line for the presidency. Byrd lost his position when Republicans retook the Senate in late 2002. He served in the Senate until 2010.

ya in the 1980's??

give me a fucking break

Strom Thurmond, George Wallace, David Duke. Pretty good company for the ol Republican party

Bird, you are distracting the issue. Again, is it your contention that the kkk is as big of a national security threat as radical Islamic extremism? Its a simple question.

sorry Jimbo


David Duke Grand Wizard 1988-1992 poltically active republican, is far different than FDR appointing some racists prior to the end of segregation.

THere is a difference between being racist when virtually all in politics are racist (1940's), and being a Grand Wizard Republican in the late 1980's

radical muslims and KKK are BOTH a problem in america, you seem to not be willing to accept that

thats your problem

Birdofthad wrote:

ya how could i think Republicans were based on bigotry

I mean they just kinda were against segregation, civil rights and gay rights.

You are right that Republicans were AGAINST segregation, but with regard to civil rights, you are just misinformed. I mean really, just read a freaking book on the subject. With your contention that Republicans were against the Civil Rights Act, you have exposed, if not already, how uninformed you are from a US history standpoint. This may help you out...

June 10, 1964
Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) criticizes Democrat filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act, calls on Democrats to stop opposing racial equality. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was introduced and approved by a staggering majority of Republicans in the Senate. The Act was opposed by most southern Democrat senators, several of whom were proud segregationists—one of them being Al Gore Sr. Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson relied on Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen, the Republican leader from Illinois, to get the Act passed.

August 4, 1965
Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) overcomes Democrat attempts to block 1965 Voting Rights Act; 94% of Senate Republicans vote for landmark civil right legislation, while 27% of Democrats oppose. Voting Rights Act of 1965, abolishing literacy tests and other measures devised by Democrats to prevent African-Americans from voting, signed into law; higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats vote in favor

Birdofthad wrote:

radical muslims and KKK are BOTH a problem in america, you seem to not be willing to accept that

thats your problem

True, they are both a problem. But it is clear to any adult with an IQ over 50, that the biggest threat is radical Islamic extremism. Arguing otherwise is just ignorance. This is a statistical issue.

Trent Lott cough cough cough

George Allens former football teammates coming out and saying he constantly called the nigger

how could anyone say there's racist in the republican party????

Care to address my post regarding Civil Rights and the Voting Rights Act? Honestly, you are bringing a knife to a gun fight and frankly, tiring me out. I can't do what 23 years of education should have done for you already. The argument that Republicans are motivated by racism is a charge that shows an inability or unwillingness to understand conservative principles and how they shape opinions on various issues. If you would stop being so emotional for a second and think, you would see that these are not positions motivated by race.

Birdofthad wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

King said 85% of mosques are radicalized

complete utter bullshit

Yeah 85% is a little high imo. I would say 65% is safe to say.

well heres the real problem beast if your going to say something like that HAVE SOME FUCKING STATS AND FACTS TO BACK IT UP

King is just spouting his own FUCKING OPINION he doesnt know what the fuck hes talking about he is just saying what he simply thinks.

Touchy much Bird? Geez I was just messin with you two. I don't even know what the heck is going on in this thread. Peter King, IRA, KKK, and Muslum Radicals is about it. I do think that there are alot of mosques that are radicalized around the world. I don't know the "stats or facts", but imo they are higher than Christian churches that are radicals. Even then, Christians don't go around blowing people up all the time. Other than that....Peter King is one ugly man.

why trash it now? just a heated debate. Nothing too bad.

jimbo was looking for it, can you wait to move it back to trash until later today bird?

Figured...do with it what you will Bird. But, it should stay up for people to read through and give their opinions based on the statements presented. Fair?

jimbojones1950 wrote:

Figured...do with it what you will Bird. But, it should stay up for people to read through and give their opinions based on the statements presented. Fair?

Anyone who is a member can still view the trash section. Only guest can't view that section. But I really don't care what happens. I'll let Bird take care of that.

OU wrote:

jimbojones1950 wrote:

Figured...do with it what you will Bird. But, it should stay up for people to read through and give their opinions based on the statements presented. Fair?

Anyone who is a member can still view the trash section. Only guest can't view that section. But I really don't care what happens. I'll let Bird take care of that.

Oh, ok. Then do what you want with it Bird. Clearly, its been a slow day at work for me as I normally don't post this much.

bird must be a black muslim democrate male between 25-34 with a touch of A D D

dag im in shitstorms when I am oblivious to everything going on.