Peter King may be wolfgangsta

somehow supported I.R.A. and wants to hold a gran interrogation of american muslims

WTF

I thought this thread would have something to do with gay men and STD's, or sex with animals from a petting zoo.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

I thought this thread would have something to do with gay men and STD's, or sex with animals from a petting zoo.

Yeah that would have made alot more sense.

Birdofthad wrote:

somehow supported I.R.A. and wants to hold a gran interrogation of american muslims

WTF

Granted, its a bit hypocritical, but stop taking the media's portrayal of the hearing. Did you watch it? It was streamed live on all news outlets. This was not an interrogation of American Muslims. It was a mix of parents whose children were radicalized here in the US, a sheriff and Dr. Zhudi Jasser. Essentially, the parents presented this as a problem that American Muslims are facing, in that there are outside forces attempting to radicalize their children. In fact, the speakers essentially all agreed that if we are too afraid to talk about this issue because of political correctness, then it will only get worse. In no way were the hearings against Muslims. In fact, I would argue that this was done for American Muslims and Americans as a whole. The majority of American Muslims are NOT in favor of radicalization and the Jihadist movement. So, when outside forces are trying to radicalize their children, and in turn, have them attack other Americans, it becomes an issue that must be confronted.

Overall, Al Queda and other like groups have had a harder time committing acts from outside the US on the US due to the implementation of all the recent laws since 9/11. They have realized that the best way to fight us is from within. The argument that this hearing singled out Muslims is ridiculous. The hearing confronted a current problem in the US, radicalization amongst Muslim youth, just like past Congressional hearings on the mafia addressed the Italians and hearings on the KKK addressed the KKK. Some Democratic Congressmen were arguing that this hearing would only be fair if we included all forms of radicalization, including groups like the KKK. Listening to that argument is mind numbing. What that argument seeks to do is force people to pretend that the KKK is as much of a threat to the US, right now, as radical Islamic extremism. Clearly, that is not the case and the majority of our attention should be towards the majority of the problem. We have a duty to American Muslims to ensure that their communities and Mosques are not infiltrated by radicals seeking to radicalize their children and have them die for their cause. Radicalization hurts American Muslims, American Christians, American Jews, American Atheists, American Hindus, etc. However, this is a problem that can really only be solved from within the community and as the parents were stating, they need government support and assistance to identify the small number of radicals within the communities who wish harm to them and their children.

no it was someone with NO QUALIFICATIONS holding a grand iterrogation WHEN HE HAS NOTHING BUT OPINIONS

it would be like calling in congressman to testify about what global warming really is instead of scientist

its time for americans to realize more than 19 muslims died on 9-11

A grand interrogation? Did you even watch the hearing? The fact that you labled it as such indicates that you did not watch at all. Secondly, its not akin to calling a congressman to speak on a scientific issue. They literally were speaking to people whose children have been victims of radicalization (ie. first hand witnesses). As for your second post, I agree. Its time you realize that the American Muslim population is NOT defined by CAIR and should not be allowed to become sitting ducks for those seeking to radicalize their children. This is a big problem within the Muslim community and to deny it as such would be, in essence, to leave the American Muslim population on their own, without any government support at combating the growing efforts of outside forces to radicalize good American Muslims. By pretending like this is not an issue, you leave the majority of American Muslims out to dry by essentially saying, your government won't help you combat this problem and you are forever forced to sit idly by while those who distort your religion attempt to brainwash your children and have them die for their movement. That is not fair to the American Muslims of this nation.

I am not denying it is a problem, where do i say it is

I am saying Peter King is not fit to fix the problem

HE SUPPORTED THE IRA for christ sakes, how is he fit to stop mulsim extremist from infiltrating america when he tries to make excuses for another terrorist organization

does the KKK and neo nazi groups attempt to radicalize americans???

even more so, there are no moderate good americans in the KKK.

I suggest you look up the KKK trials of the 1980s

King said 85% of mosques are radicalized

complete utter bullshit

West Point say over 50% of the muslims turned in, in america have been turned in by or from tips from american muslims

how many klansmen and neo nazis do you think have done that?

Birdofthad wrote:

King said 85% of mosques are radicalized

complete utter bullshit

Yeah 85% is a little high imo. I would say 65% is safe to say.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

King said 85% of mosques are radicalized

complete utter bullshit

Yeah 85% is a little high imo. I would say 65% is safe to say.

well heres the real problem beast if your going to say something like that HAVE SOME FUCKING STATS AND FACTS TO BACK IT UP

King is just spouting his own FUCKING OPINION he doesnt know what the fuck hes talking about he is just saying what he simply thinks.

I think Peter King is a cock sucking faggott

it must be true

Again, you are missing the issue due to your over emotional position. The fact that American Muslims are turning in radicals is great. The point is, we need more support to these people to help identify who the radicals are and how they are trying to infiltrate the American Muslim youth and communities. To do that, the government needs more assistance from those willing to stand up. Having an organization like CAIR telling American Muslims not to talk to the police or fbi is counterproductive and only reaffirms the radical's narrative that the US hates Islam. Creating that wedge is what assists in recruiting radicals. If you watched the hearing, you would know that accusation is anything but the truth. Further, your constant reference to the kkk or neo-nazis shows how emotional you have become over this and how its causing you to lose sight of reality. Is it your contention that in 2011, the kkk is as big of a threat to the US as radical Muslim extremism?

Now, as for King, I stated that he is hypocritical. However, in this situation, having the hearings are a good thing for American Muslims and all other types of Americans. As chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, he is the one in position to hold the hearings. As for his alleged statement that 85% of Mosques are radicalized, I personally have not seen that statement anywhere and would appreciate a source, if you have one.

KKK has a larger contingent, and has only grown since Obama's election, in american than radical americans and several have been arrested for plotting to assassinate our current president. Sounds like a pretty dangerous threat.

King's game is all about bombast, and he has said some pretty controversial things--like, for example, that the US has "too many mosques," and that 85% of them are run by radicals.


the guy comes off as a racist against muslims sorry for thinking that but its my opinon. Atleast I can admit when I am stating an opinion instead of acting like my opinion is a fact. That is the difference between his hearings and the other 22 hearings on radical muslims in america. This hearing is being run by a moron who is racist against muslims and does not have a logical view of muslims. Add in HES A FUCKING HYPOCRITE THAT SUPPORTS TERRORISM HIMSELF.

http://www.newser.com/story/113825/peter-kings-radical-muslim-hearings-not-the-first.html

this is a witch hunt and is obvious by who King has called to testify

Things could be worse -- but not by much. King has thankfully declined to call any known anti-Muslim activists with little or no expertise in the subject, such as Pamela Geller or Frank Gaffney, to testify. But he did originally plan to feature American Enterprise Institute fellow Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who is on record claiming that "Islam is a cult," and Fox News analyst Walid Phares, a figure with ties to violent sectarian Lebanese militias. He will also call other dubious "experts" to testify, such as American Islamic Forum for Democracy founder Zuhdi Jasser, who has been featured in alarmist films such as the Clarion Fund's The Third Jihad and America at Risk: The War With No Name -- films that dishonestly attempt to portray Muslims as followers of a violent and subversive faith bent on international domination.

Read his own statements

With no apparent evidence or study, he has stated that as many as 85 percent of American mosques are controlled by "radical imams," that there are "too many mosques in this country," and -- incredibly -- that Muslims are "an enemy living amongst us."

Such broad-sweeping statements could never be made about any other religious group. Even just a few short years ago, responsible political leaders of both parties would have avoided such sweeping generalizations about Muslim Americans and Islam. As recently as the 2000 elections, both parties openly courted Muslim American voters -- who eventually voted overwhelmingly for George W. Bush.

But in the ensuing decade, a number of factors have conspired to take anti-Muslim sentiment into the mainstream. The tragedy of the 9/11 attacks, the departure of Bush -- who warned repeatedly to separate the few violent terrorists from the vast majority of peace-loving Muslims -- and the persistent smears about President Barack Obama's faith have all served to increase American suspicion of Islam. And today, some politicians have cynically sought to exploit such fears.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/03/09/peter_king_s_witch_hunt

this hypocrite compared Gerry Adams to George Washington

He is a fucking joke

of course Republicans dont care about the Klan, they openly had a leader of the Klan campaigning in their political party in the 1980s

Well, lets at least try to stick to facts, not propaganda. The actual quote from King was "there are too many mosques that don't cooperate with law enforcement." Secondly, the actual quote about mosques was...""The only real testimony we have on it was actually from Sheikh Kabbani, who was a Muslim leader during the Clinton Administration, he testified, this is back in 1999 and 2000, before the State Department that he thought over 80 percent of the mosques in this country are controlled by radical Imams. Certainly from what I've seen and dealings I've had, that number seems accurate."

Now, you may not like his conclusion, but it was based on the testimony of Sheikh Kabbani, who is one of the world's most renowned scholars of Islamic history and the spiritual science of Sufism.

The last leg of a person who knows their argument is silly is to cry racism. It seems that you would rather leave good American Muslims to fight this battle on their own, without government assistance, while a band of extremists try to take over their religion and have their children die for them, and consequently cause more American deaths. Leaving American Muslims to fight this battle on their own is not showing sympathy, but rather a lack of care for the good American Muslims in the face of protecting those that wish to cause harm. Its similar to when a left wing activist group sticks up for gang bangers and treats them as victims of society, all the while, leaving the innocent people of their community who have to deal with the violence, left in the cold.

Finally, if it is your contention that the kkk is as big of a threat to national security as radical Islamic extremism, then you have either not been paying attention, or are so agenda driven that you have lost sight of whats going on in the world.

Birdofthad wrote:

of course Republicans dont care about the Klan, they openly had a leader of the Klan campaigning in their political party in the 1980s

This is laughable. If you knew anything about klan history in the US and its involvement in politics, you would know that the vast majority of klansman who were elected or appointed to high positions in this country were Democrats. Again, you rely on the argument that Republicans are motivated by racism and bigotry, which shows a clear indication that you are either unable or unwilling to understand the principles of conservatism and why certain positions are taken by Republicans.

a terrorist supporter rooting out american bred terrorism

sound fucking retarded to anyone else?

jimbojones1950 wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

of course Republicans dont care about the Klan, they openly had a leader of the Klan campaigning in their political party in the 1980s

This is laughable. If you knew anything about klan history in the US and its involvement in politics, you would know that the vast majority of klansman who were elected or appointed to high positions in this country were Democrats. Again, you rely on the argument that Republicans are motivated by racism and bigotry, which shows a clear indication that you are either unable or unwilling to understand the principles of conservatism and why certain positions are taken by Republicans.

COUGH COUGH COUGH DAVID DUKE

FORMER GRAND WIZARD OF KLU KLUX KLAN LOUISIANA REPUBLICAN LAST RAN FOR OFFICE 1992

dont worry its not like he was bad or anything

HIS SON JUST COMMITTED THE LAST KNOWN LYNCHING IN AMERICA

I voted for Bush and I voted for McCain.