Fedor Considering Move to 205, Willing to Fight Dan Henderson

OU wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

The alleged GOAT just got his ass beat twice and now we want to put him in against one of the best wrestlers with a nasty right to boot? I wuld rather watch shit fights on M-1.

LOL such a hater. Fedor is still one of the top 10 p4p fighters in the World. Live with it.

Fedor IS the GOAT but he can't be ranked top 10 p4p when he's lost 2 fights back to back.

Jamal wrote:

OU wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

The alleged GOAT just got his ass beat twice and now we want to put him in against one of the best wrestlers with a nasty right to boot? I wuld rather watch shit fights on M-1.

LOL such a hater. Fedor is still one of the top 10 p4p fighters in the World. Live with it.

Fedor IS the GOAT but he can't be ranked top 10 p4p when he's lost 2 fights back to back.

bullshit, like the previous 30+ wins mean nothing? I'll rank the undersize HW where I see fit. No doubt in my mind he is still a top 10 p4p fighter in the world. I'm objective enough to factor in the loses with what he has done. Machida has lost back to back fights(some say 3 in a row) but he is still being ranked 3-5 overall in the LHW division. Should I rank Phil Davis over Machida because he has won 8 in a row?

I'm not talking about divisional rankings but P4P rankings. If you lose 2 in a row you're out. Especially since the 2 guys that beat him weren't in the top 5 HW before they fought him and Bigfoot still isn't. Fedor is probably the 7th best heavyweight right now so there is no chance of him being top 10 P4P.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

The alleged GOAT just got his ass beat twice and now we want to put him in against one of the best wrestlers with a nasty right to boot? I wuld rather watch shit fights on M-1.

Lol, yeah I'm sure Hendo would walk right through Fedor

Jamal wrote:

I'm not talking about divisional rankings but P4P rankings. If you lose 2 in a row you're out. Especially since the 2 guys that beat him weren't in the top 5 HW before they fought him and Bigfoot still isn't. Fedor is probably the 7th best heavyweight right now so there is no chance of him being top 10 P4P.

I disagree. When I know a fighter is a top 10 p4p fighter. I will rank him that way. No brainer IMO, Fedor is still a top 10 p4p fighter. Fedor may be ranked #7, but in reality he is much better then that. Sorry bro but I strongly disagree with you here. I think you are flat out wrong.

He tapped to Werdum, Bigfoot destroyed him, Bigfoot isn't even top 5 so how is Fedor? I love Fedor and he is in my top 3 favorites so no bias towards him here.

Jamal wrote:

He tapped to Werdum, Bigfoot destroyed him, Bigfoot isn't even top 5 so how is Fedor? I love Fedor and he is in my top 3 favorites so no bias towards him here.

Bigfoot had 1 dominate round, an injury stopped that fight. He wasn't rolling on the ground crying for the ref to stop the fight like some douche bag with $2 hair cut and a dick on his chest.
I'm not even a Fedor "fan", but I respect the hell out of him. He is still at top p4p talent.

josh200612 wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

josh200612 wrote:

hendo will knock him out nuff said.

SHUTCHOMOUF!

STFUCF!

I dont even want to ask what that means....

Jamal wrote:

He tapped to Werdum, Bigfoot destroyed him, Bigfoot isn't even top 5 so how is Fedor? I love Fedor and he is in my top 3 favorites so no bias towards him here.

They were both bigger than Fedor and the Werdum fight doesnt count in my mind. That was just a mistake. Bigfoot on the other hand beat his ass, but he weighed 50 lbs more. If Bigfoot weighed 40 lbs lighter, Fedor would've slaughtered him. Fedor is still a top p4p guy. He would be the favortie to win a cruiserweight tournament for a title in any organization.

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

josh200612 wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

josh200612 wrote:

hendo will knock him out nuff said.

SHUTCHOMOUF!

STFUCF!

I dont even want to ask what that means....

It means shut the fuck up card fucker
you're a cock sucking, ass licking card fucker
you're a card fucker, yes it's true
NOBODY fucks cards quite like you

so shut your fucking face card fucker!

OU wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

josh200612 wrote:

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

josh200612 wrote:

hendo will knock him out nuff said.

SHUTCHOMOUF!

STFUCF!

I dont even want to ask what that means....

It means shut the fuck up card fucker
you're a cock sucking, ass licking card fucker
you're a card fucker, yes it's true
NOBODY fucks cards quite like you

so shut your fucking face card fucker!

OMG! OU hit it right on the head hahaha!

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

The alleged GOAT just got his ass beat twice and now we want to put him in against one of the best wrestlers with a nasty right to boot? I wuld rather watch shit fights on M-1.

WINNING!

josh200612 wrote:

hendo will knock him out nuff said.

I knew we had something in common. That would be fucking epic.

Freak has never really understood P4P, did a whole bunch of fighters all of a sudden become more skilled then Fedor? The answer is obvious and his losses, well one, was due to a size disadvantage, the other sloppyness. But for all the reasons Brock could never be top 10 P4P, the opposite applies for Fedor who will almost always be top 10 P4P.

Oh Anderson vs GSP, Shogun, Bones > Hendo vs Fedor but stll a great fight

If Fedor made this move in the UFC it could have been trouble, for all the disadvantages he had at HW, he also had inherent advantages being smaller. Guys will be more well-rded and quicker at LHW.

LA wrote:

Freak has never really understood P4P, did a whole bunch of fighters all of a sudden become more skilled then Fedor? The answer is obvious and his losses, well one, was due to a size disadvantage, the other sloppyness. But for all the reasons Brock could never be top 10 P4P, the opposite applies for Fedor who will almost always be top 10 P4P.

Oh Anderson vs GSP, Shogun, Bones > Hendo vs Fedor but stll a great fight

If Fedor made this move in the UFC it could have been trouble, for all the disadvantages he had at HW, he also had inherent advantages being smaller. Guys will be more well-rded and quicker at LHW.

Maybe, but he could possibly put on some epic battles. Tell me you wouldn't kill 6 infants to watch Fedor vs Shogun. I know I would.

I have pointed out for years that Fedor was walking through nobodeis and everyone wanted to call me a hater. Now that he has lost twice in a row, you guys are still making fucking excuses? Fuck you all. Werdum had him tapping in under 2 minutes. "He made a mistake". Silva beat his ass "It was a loss by injury, it doesn't count". What he used to be and was at one point is gone and that train is not going to return.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

I have pointed out for years that Fedor was walking through nobodeis and everyone wanted to call me a hater. Now that he has lost twice in a row, you guys are still making fucking excuses? Fuck you all. Werdum had him tapping in under 2 minutes. "He made a mistake". Silva beat his ass "It was a loss by injury, it doesn't count". What he used to be and was at one point is gone and that train is not going to return.

LOL you are just too much sometimes. Who said the loss to Bigfoot didn't count? I'm just pointing out that it was a very close 1st round that many thought Fedor won. He got beat up good in round 2 and the fight was stopped due to injury. I just pointed out that isn't that same as rolling on the ground verbally tapping out cause you just can't take it anymore. Who knows what would have happened in round 3 if Fedor would have been able to continue.
Anyone that actually watched both of his losses knows that Fedor rushed in and made a mistake vs an elite grappler that made him pay for it. It's not like he tapped out to a leglock that any elementary student could pull off.
If you don't think Fedor has a chance to beat anyone in the world still to this day, you're wrong.

OU wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

I have pointed out for years that Fedor was walking through nobodeis and everyone wanted to call me a hater. Now that he has lost twice in a row, you guys are still making fucking excuses? Fuck you all. Werdum had him tapping in under 2 minutes. "He made a mistake". Silva beat his ass "It was a loss by injury, it doesn't count". What he used to be and was at one point is gone and that train is not going to return.

LOL you are just too much sometimes. Who said the loss to Bigfoot didn't count? I'm just pointing out that it was a very close 1st round that many thought Fedor won. He got beat up good in round 2 and the fight was stopped due to injury. I just pointed out that isn't that same as rolling on the ground verbally tapping out cause you just can't take it anymore. Who knows what would have happened in round 3 if Fedor would have been able to continue.
Anyone that actually watched both of his losses knows that Fedor rushed in and made a mistake vs an elite grappler that made him pay for it. It's not like he tapped out to a leglock that any elementary student could pull off.
If you don't think Fedor has a chance to beat anyone in the world still to this day, you're wrong.

The answer to your first question would be all those that said his loss to Tsuyoshi Kohsaka didn't really count and you cannot tell me we haven't heard that BS a hundred times. Look, if you have any interest you can look at my history of picks and I have never once picked against the guy and up until his loss to Werdum, I always ranked him #1. But I have consistently been pointing out his lack of quality opposition since he last fought CC. I think history will vindicate my thought process, instead of being some fanboy who can't see past their desires vs reality. EXAMPLE: I am rooting for Randy against Machida, but I am not picking him to win. Desire vs. reality.

Yeah I get that. Often times I pick fighters to win that I have no interest in seeing them win. But I think time will eventually show that Werdum and Bigfoot are very worthy opponents and losses at that time to those fighters won't be anything to be ashamed of. Time will tell. But no rational human being should say that Kohsaka loss was legit. Under normal rules that would have been declared a win for Fedor.