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+4NoRegret bobbitt15 KingsOwn19 Farmer1906 8 posters |
Who and how? | Belfort SUB | | 0% | [ 0 ] | Belfort TKO/KO | | 38% | [ 9 ] | Belfort UD | | 0% | [ 0 ] | Belfort SD | | 0% | [ 0 ] | Franklin SD | | 4% | [ 1 ] | Franklin UD | | 33% | [ 8 ] | Franklin TKO/KO | | 25% | [ 6 ] | Franklin SUB | | 0% | [ 0 ] |
| Total Votes : 24 | | Poll closed |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Franklin vs Belfort Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:44 pm | |
| Who you got and how?
I'm calling Rich by UD. He's footwork will be enough to frustrate Vitor's straight forward attack. Franklin picks his shots and works that leg and body kick in ala Jardine-Liddell & Griffin-Rampage.
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KingsOwn19 Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva,Dan Henderson, Emelianenko Fedor, Josh Barnett Posts : 12421 Join date : 2009-07-16 Location : Northern California
| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:00 pm | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:22 pm | |
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NoRegret Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone that comes to FIGHT! Posts : 4548 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 34 Location : The Dirty 330- Ohio
| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:49 pm | |
| I voted for Rich Franklin via UD
But I think Rich might even come outta this fight with a TKO win. I think it'd be very possible for him in this fight...if he frustrates Belfort to the level that I think he will, Franklin will catch Belfort off guard and catch him making a mistake and BOOM! It can and might be over that quick. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:18 pm | |
| we already have a franklin belfort poll lol.
It's likely either a KO early from Vitor or a lopsided decision for Franklin.
The story of this fight will be if Vitor can finally overcome the hump and fight competitively after the first half of the first round. He's got some serious karate skills added to his game now, so maybe he's developed the patience and mentality to fight strong throughout the entire battle. | |
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oggy420 Bronze Belt
Posts : 6483 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:28 pm | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:36 pm | |
| I must have missed it because I looked before I posted. | |
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| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:11 pm | |
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Andrew the Raider King Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael, Sexyama, Condit, Hendricks, Cowboy, Struve Posts : 4356 Join date : 2009-07-17 Age : 54 Location : Montgomery, AL
| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:53 am | |
| Franklin, just Jedi mind tricks Belfort. Vitor has what it takes to be great physically, he doesn't have it in the head. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:42 pm | |
| - Farmer1906 wrote:
- I must have missed it because I looked before I posted.
You posted in it several times even. Anyway this thread is better because that one was hijacked by combat arguing about a bet we never even made lol. - Quote :
- If Belfort doesn't crush him fast he doesn't have a chance. Statistically, almost none. If you look at his resume, the number of post round 1 KO's, TKOs, submissions, and decisions of top fighters is exactly 2. Those wins were over Yvel and Herring in Pride events in 2000-01, both by decision. Good wins but not over world beaters. He's never stopped a top fighter outside of the first round, ever and outside of those decisions he's never beaten a top fighter on the scorecards. And in fact, your chances of beating Belfort jump significantly past the 2 minute mark in the fight. One half of his wins and one third of all his fights end before 2:00 into the fight. He has only won four fights that went 9 minutes or longer, and all his losses happen after 9 minutes, except Couture's first beating, which took eight minutes and sixteen seconds.
This reminds me of the Randy vs Page debate on ESPN where everyone was like "Page left hook r2" when Page has exactly zero KO's past the first round over any top fighters save Liddell's towel toss.
Bottom line, if Franklin is still alive and well at the start of the second round, Belfort has absolutely no chance.
Like I said, first round Belfort KO or lopsided Franklin UD. And the odds are stacked against Vitor here here. While Franklin lost to Anderson Silva ugly and early, Vitor Belfort is no Anderson Silva and his 90 seconds worth of head-down run-forward lighting-fist isn't going to fell a crafty and smart striker like Franklin. Anyway here was the only real post of value. But I'd like to see Vitor finally break the cycle and not fold under pressure. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:46 pm | |
| I like Vitor maybe lol. Actually this is a very tough fight to pick. | |
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Andrew the Raider King Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael, Sexyama, Condit, Hendricks, Cowboy, Struve Posts : 4356 Join date : 2009-07-17 Age : 54 Location : Montgomery, AL
| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:15 pm | |
| I would like to see Vitor get it going again, but Rich is no slouch. Again, I think this can be a very exciting fight for fans. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:09 pm | |
| I find it amazing only respectable MMA journalists are breaking this fight down like I am. Usually the herd at the very least replicates those opinions. | |
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Andrew the Raider King Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael, Sexyama, Condit, Hendricks, Cowboy, Struve Posts : 4356 Join date : 2009-07-17 Age : 54 Location : Montgomery, AL
| Subject: Re: Franklin vs Belfort Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:42 am | |
| Nice Wolf. Nothing is better than patting yourself on the back and then telling everyone how good your are. | |
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