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| who wins? Jones vs Shogun | |
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Shogun vs Jones | Shogun | | 61% | [ 17 ] | Jones | | 39% | [ 11 ] |
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| Subject: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:31 pm | |
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| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:32 pm | |
| just curious to which way this board is leaning right now. | |
| | | NoRegret Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:33 pm | |
| Shogun. His standup is more refined, and his jiu jitsu would give Jones problems if this went to the ground IMO as well. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:39 pm | |
| - NoRegret wrote:
- Shogun. His standup is more refined, and his jiu jitsu would give Jones problems if this went to the ground IMO as well.
True, but Jones has the speed and the reach. He is also pretty well rounded himself. I'm taking Jones but I wouldn't be surprised to see Shogun finish it. I bet this fight doesn't go the distance. | |
| | | MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:50 pm | |
| I really really wanted to pick Shogun but my mind wouldn't let me, I think Jones is gonna win via decision because of his wrestling. I don't think Jones will stand to much even though I think he could compete with Shoguns standup I just think he'll take the easier road and control Shogun to a decision. Shogun will threaten with subs but Jones will maintain position and defend them.
Let me just state that I hope I'm wrong and Shogun KOs Jones | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:58 pm | |
| Shogun. Big Knockdown punch, big GnP Stoppage.
Jones will get his legs and body battered early. He might get Shogun down, but will not be able to keep him there. He is gonna get hurt, frustrated then dropped. 2nd round. Size won't mean much, This won't be the first or third 6'4" + guy to be Ko'd by Rua. History is repeating itself. Shogun has been the dog in about 75% of his biggest fights, it will keep repeating and he will go on to beat the favorite. | |
| | | MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:00 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- Shogun. Big Knockdown punch, big GnP Stoppage.
Jones will get his legs and body battered early. He might get Shogun down, but will not be able to keep him there. He is gonna get hurt, frustrated then dropped. 2nd round. Size won't mean much, This won't be the first or third 6'4" + guy to be Ko'd by Rua. History is repeating itself. Shogun has been the dog in about 75% of his biggest fights, it will keep repeating and he will go on to beat the favorite. I really hope your right | |
| | | SOKO Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:00 pm | |
| cant call it but I do know shogun will be in his face like no other. | |
| | | NoRegret Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:03 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- NoRegret wrote:
- Shogun. His standup is more refined, and his jiu jitsu would give Jones problems if this went to the ground IMO as well.
True, but Jones has the speed and the reach. He is also pretty well rounded himself. I'm taking Jones but I wouldn't be surprised to see Shogun finish it. I bet this fight doesn't go the distance. I know Jones is mega talented, but I think his lack of experience is going to be his downfall in this fight. Shogun is one of the smartest fighters in the game, and has been fighting professionaly for a very long time...Jones has only been training for 3 years. I think Shogun gets a big advantage from that. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:06 pm | |
| If Jones wins, he is Shogun the next generation stature-wise. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:09 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- If Jones wins, he is Shogun the next generation stature-wise.
Nope....he is better. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:27 pm | |
| I got shogun by KO
And wasn't it this board that proclaimed Shogun the fastest LHW In the world? You see jones being faster? | |
| | | NoRegret Red Belt
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:28 pm | |
| People are caught up in the Jones hype train right now.
Machida made a quick Rashad Evans look slow...and Shogun made a really quick Machida look slow.
I really think Shogun is much faster than people are giving credit for. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:28 pm | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- I got shogun by KO
And wasn't it this board that proclaimed Shogun the fastest LHW In the world? You see jones being faster? Not even a question, Jones is faster for sure. | |
| | | killerofchicken Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:30 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- killerofchicken wrote:
- I got shogun by KO
And wasn't it this board that proclaimed Shogun the fastest LHW In the world? You see jones being faster? Not even a question, Jones is faster for sure. Because he looked faster than a HUGE Bader? IDK, but I'm glad the fights 6 weeks away cuz we'll find out | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:35 pm | |
| - killerofchicken wrote:
- OU wrote:
- killerofchicken wrote:
- I got shogun by KO
And wasn't it this board that proclaimed Shogun the fastest LHW In the world? You see jones being faster? Not even a question, Jones is faster for sure. Because he looked faster than a HUGE Bader? IDK, but I'm glad the fights 6 weeks away cuz we'll find out No, not at all. I thought it was clear before this fight ever happened. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:36 pm | |
| - OU wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- If Jones wins, he is Shogun the next generation stature-wise.
Nope....he is better. There is nothing he can do that matches up to Shogun's 2005 rise to prominence. But to beat Shogun would be close to the modern day equivalent. | |
| | | OU Administrator
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:42 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- OU wrote:
- GDPofDRC wrote:
- If Jones wins, he is Shogun the next generation stature-wise.
Nope....he is better. There is nothing he can do that matches up to Shogun's 2005 rise to prominence. But to beat Shogun would be close to the modern day equivalent. He has the potential to be a more dominate Champion if he never goes through the lows Shogun did and stays healthy. | |
| | | GDPofDRC Administrator
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:50 pm | |
| He does have that. Shogun didn't sustain a setback injury until he was 23. | |
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:53 pm | |
| - GDPofDRC wrote:
- He does have that. Shogun didn't sustain a setback injury until he was 23.
Exactly, that old man's time has come and gone... | |
| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:54 pm | |
| I want to say Jones because I believe he will be champion sooner than later but I just dont think he is ready for Shogun just yet. He has never really been hit let alone in trouble in a fight and i would like to see how he reacts before I say he can beat the best 205er in the world. Shogun is my pick in 6 weeks, but Bones if this fight was next year. | |
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:58 pm | |
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| | | timthebim Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:08 pm | |
| Very close and I would think most think the fight will be the same way. | |
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:20 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: who wins? Jones vs Shogun Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:27 pm | |
| sweet version of that picture, man 7-7? Didn't think it would be dead even like that. | |
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