Yall Wanna Know Why Your Lineal Title is Wrong?

atleast IMO. Everyone is saying ohh Randy left and lost the title to Enson Inoeu

BUT

if you wanna be realistic, the lineal title was lost by Ken Shamrock to Minori Suzuki in Pancrase

Lineal tittle my rear end... just sayin'

Birdofthad wrote:

atleast IMO. Everyone is saying ohh Randy left and lost the title to Enson Inoeu

BUT

if you wanna be realistic, the lineal title was lost by Ken Shamrock to Minori Suzuki in Pancrase

It still leads to Werdum.

Until Overeem crushes him in a month or two.

Birdofthad wrote:

atleast IMO. Everyone is saying ohh Randy left and lost the title to Enson Inoeu

BUT

if you wanna be realistic, the lineal title was lost by Ken Shamrock to Minori Suzuki in Pancrase

1. Ken didn't have the lineal title then under any tree.
2. The match was a work.
3. Balls.

stole this from a BE post.

"It really is 'THE' lineal title at stake in Werdum vs Overeem The first UFC Heavyweight title was lost lineally by Couture and found it’s way to Fedor’s PRIDE Heavyweight title.

The 2nd title was dissolved with Rutten’s retirement.

The 3rd UFC Heavyweight title was lost lineally by Couture, and then again by Barnett(who won it physically from Couture)…both of those found their way to Fedor’s PRIDE title.

The lineal PRIDE title became the WAMMA title when Fedor defeated Sylvia.

Meanwhile, Nelson won the IFL Heavyweight title and defended it twice before losing it lineally to Arlovski, who then lost it to Fedor, unifying it with Fedor’s WAMMA title.

Antonio Silva won EliteXC’s vacant Heavyweight title, and never lost it lineally until he was beaten by Werdum.

Werdum then defeated Fedor and won his WAMMA title.

So yeah, in a lineal sense, the first UFC Heavyweight title, the 3rd UFC Heavyweight title(on 2 different occasions), the PRIDE Heavyweight title, the WAMMA Heavyweight title, the IFL Heavyweight title, and the EliteXC Heavyweight title are all on the line and ready to be unified with the lineal StrikeForce Heavyweight title when Alistair Overeem and Fabricio Werdum face off.

That will ALL then be held under the banner of the StrikeForce Heavyweight Grand Prix title."
by Chris Groves

I've written extensively on this and Jonathan Snowden has some good pieces up now about it as well.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

I've written extensively on this and Jonathan Snowden has some good pieces up now about it as well.

these?
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/1/18/1941732/strikeforce-heavyweight-tournament-lineal-title-at-stake-on-showtime


http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/1/19/1943864/yakuza-steroids-and-heart-trouble-the-lineal-title-journeys-to-japan

LA wrote:

I really don't understand why won't recognize the lineal title.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Birdofthad wrote:

atleast IMO. Everyone is saying ohh Randy left and lost the title to Enson Inoeu

BUT

if you wanna be realistic, the lineal title was lost by Ken Shamrock to Minori Suzuki in Pancrase

1. Ken didn't have the lineal title then under any tree.
2. The match was a work.
3. Balls.

so having King of Pancrase and then winning the SuperFight title wasnt the title hahahahahah

So what was UFC 10 and 11's tournaments somehow special ??? Coleman won the superfight title, they just changed the name to HW title

hate 2 break it to ya people, sorry Danas erased and changed history numerous times

Bro get Ken's dick out of the back of your throat and check his record ;

1996-05-17 Loss 22–5–2 United States Dan Severn UFC 9: Motor City Madness Decision (Split) Round 1, 30:00 United States Detroit, Michigan, US Lost UFC Superfight Championship
1996-02-16 Win 22–4–2 United States Kimo Leopoldo UFC 8: David vs. Goliath Submission (Kneebar) Round 1, 4:24 Puerto Rico Bayamon, Puerto Rico Defended UFC Superfight Championship
1996-01-28 Win 21–4–2 Japan Yoshiki Takahashi Pancrase-Truth 1 Decision (Lost Points) Round 1, 20:00 Japan Yokohama, Kanagawa, Japan
1995-12-14 Win 20–4–2 Japan Katsuomi Inagaki Pancrase-Eyes Of Beast 7 Submission (Arm Triangle Choke) Round 1, 3:19 Japan Sapporo, Hokkaido, Japan
1995-09-08 Draw 19–4–2 Russia Oleg Taktarov UFC 7: The Brawl in Buffalo Draw Round 1, 33:00 United States Buffalo, New York, US Retains UFC Superfight Championship. Match was declared a draw because there were no judges.
1995-07-22 Win 19–4–1 Australia Larry Papadopoulos Pancrase-1995 Neo-Blood Tournament, Round 1 Submission (Achilles Lock) Round 1, 2:18 Japan Tokyo, Japan

1995-07-14 Win 18–4–1 United States Dan Severn UFC 6: Clash of the Titans Submission (Guillotine choke) Round 1, 2:14 United States Casper, Wyoming, US Won UFC Superfight Championship

1995-05-13 Loss 17–4–1 Japan Minoru Suzuki Pancrase-Eyes Of Beast 4 Submission (Kneebar) Round 1, 2:14 Japan Urayasu, Chiba, Japan Lost King of Pancrase title. Match rumored to be a work

1995-04-07 Draw 17–3–1 Brazil Royce Gracie UFC 5: The Return of the Beast Draw Round 1, 36:00 United States Charlotte, North Carolina, US For UFC Superfight Championship. Match was declared a draw because there were no judges.

1995-03-10 Win 17–3 Netherlands Bas Rutten Pancrase-Eyes Of Beast 2 Submission (Kneebar) Round 1, 1:01 Japan Yokohama, Kanagawa, Japan Defends King of Pancrase title
1995-01-26 Win 16–3 Netherlands Leon Dijk Pancrase-Eyes Of Beast 1 Submission (Heel Hook) Round 1, 4:45 Japan Nagoya, Aichi, Japan
1994-12-17 Win 15–3 Japan Manabu Yamada Pancrase - King of Pancrase Tournament Second Round Decision (Unanimous) Round 1, 30:00 Japan Tokyo, Japan Won King of Pancrase Tournament: Became first Pancrase Champion
1994-12-17 Win 14–3 Japan Masakatsu Funaki Pancrase - King of Pancrase Tournament Second Round Submission (Arm Triangle Choke) Round 1, 5:50 Japan Tokyo, Japan


He lost no titles overseas kiddo. Sowry.

Well since it is fairly well known that Alexander the Great was practically unstoppable in Pankration matches and is thought to have never lost, plus he died in his early 30s...I think the lineal title died with him.

must fight the urge to edit your post into something funny......must.....fight....urge

Hey Wolf, you read this?
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/1/21/1944855/the-only-lineal-title-that-means-anything-the-saku-belt

Yes.