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LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: GSP just too good Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:38 am | |
| Aside from a fluke loss to Matt Serra, GSP has not only beaten, but dominated his competition in the UFC WW division. GSP displayed yet again tonight why he is in a league of his own. Kos came into the fight another top WW and challenger, thought to have improve since their first meeting and therefore provide GSP with a challenge, only to be completely outclassed. GSP's quickness was too much, jap too crisp and talent too great. So the question is, what do we want GSP to do next? He's already beaten the who's who of MMA WWs, and although he is probably set to face Jake Sheilds next, I can say confidently George will remain Champion after that fight, most likely in dominant fashion. So with that said, MW anyone? I think the time has come. | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:07 am | |
| His Karate helps unify his entire game because he has incorporated takedowns directly into his striking and can phase shift seamlessly. You have to defend against everything at once. You can not isolate him or take him out of his element. You can't see what he is going to do. He feints too well. You can't hit him. He sees your technique coming and is just too fast.
He re-enforces why he deserves P4P billing over Anderson, Fedor, and even Jose Aldo, who I have been very vocal about possibly deserving it. He is the most well rounded fighter in the game, who is only rivaled by Jose Aldo in terms of three phase proficiency.
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| | | LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:27 am | |
| He is the most well-rounded fighter I have ever seen, but I think it's his incredible athletism paired with his skill and talent which really brings his abilitys full circle. Either way, he's on another level and I think it's time for him to move up and face possibly tougher competition. Before tonight I would have argued for Anderson to be #1 P4P, but now I can say GSP deserves the spot. Not only would I pick GSP above Anderson now P4P, but laso H2H, and I'm a much bigger Spider fan then I am GSP. We know Anderson's weakness, and that happens to be one of GSP strengths, the striikng dangers will still be there, and I think a fighter with subs off his back is a must in order to beat GSP, but his takedowns and wrestling would prove to be too much IMO. | |
| | | captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:38 am | |
| Yup, def the #1 p4p guy in the world. Has the ability to blow open even the smallest of cracks in an opponents game, no matter what the soft spot may be.
Without looking too far ahead, I'm actually digging the Shields fight, cause I think it will provide for the now rare GSP KO.
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| | | MMAEYES Black Belt
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:18 am | |
| Yeah I don't like the guy but you can't knock his skills can you | |
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:51 am | |
| He can be beat. The problem is he is so well rounded that even if you outclass him in one area he will do everything possible to keep that fight in a situation where is he at the advantage. The only thing Kos probably had on GSP was power, GSP stayed outside and was never really at risk. Jake will have the edge in BJJ but GSP has the tools he needs to avoid that. IMO you will need a good sprawl and brawl fighter to beat GSP. Someone who has the striking to hurt GSP and the TD defense to stay on his feet. Right now there really isn't any WW that fits that mold. I do think GSP is somewhat lucky with the weight class he is in. He just doesn't have any matchup problems out there for him at that weight right now. I think he would be much more beatable at MW. More guys with the power to hurt him. If he couldn't get someone like Vitor down he would be in big trouble. | |
| | | jimbojones1950 Green Belt
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:16 pm | |
| This improvement in GSP's boxing is only going to get better and better. His only real competition will be at 185. Completely outboxed, outwrestled and outclassed Koscheck. Definitely p4p the best in the game. | |
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:22 pm | |
| Kos held his own with wrestling. GSP couldn't hold him down if he wanted to. Kos was able to take him down, he just didn't attempt many take downs. | |
| | | LA Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:31 pm | |
| Kos did hold his own wrestling, but then GSP is soo much better everywhere else
It'd be interesting to see Askren and GSP, at least wrestlingwise | |
| | | captain organic Bronze Belt
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:06 am | |
| - LA wrote:
- Kos did hold his own wrestling, but then GSP is soo much better everywhere else
It'd be interesting to see Askren and GSP, at least wrestlingwise gotta figure Askren would have a distinct wrestling advantage. | |
| | | Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:09 am | |
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:17 am | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/12/gsp-vs-koscheck-ii-fightmetric-report.html
Just so we're clear, GSP was 4-9 on takedown attempts, and Kos was 1-4 and that one he fought extremely hard for. So strictly speaking, GSP owned him there too. yeah but he couldn't hold Kos down for nothing, might have had him down 1 min the entire fight. Kos was pretty much on par wrestling, even with the broken orbital. It wasn't wrestling that won that fight. | |
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:17 am | |
| - OU wrote:
- Wolfgangsta wrote:
- http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/12/gsp-vs-koscheck-ii-fightmetric-report.html
Just so we're clear, GSP was 4-9 on takedown attempts, and Kos was 1-4 and that one he fought extremely hard for. So strictly speaking, GSP owned him there too. yeah but he couldn't hold Kos down for nothing, might have had him down 1 min the entire fight. Kos was pretty much on par wrestling, even with the broken orbital. It wasn't wrestling that won that fight. I think a point in there though is that he took the guy down, a good wrestler, but didn't decide to try and beat him there where it was potentially gonna be much more difficult to work. He beat him where he was going to have the best advantage and did so soundly. GSP just too good, yes. GSP just too smart, even more so. | |
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:20 am | |
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:20 am | |
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:22 am | |
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| Subject: Re: GSP just too good Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:52 am | |
| I'm still in the minority that thinks GSP will struggle at MW. I think some of those guys might be able to sprawl and brawl on GSP and I think they have the power and strength to hurt him. | |
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