Fightmetric Machida vs Rampage:

http://blog.fightmetric.com/2010/11/rampage-vs-machida-fightmetric-report.html

Now I scored it 1st Machida, 2nd Page, 3rd obviously Machida which was also by far the most dominant rd of the fight. The Fightmetric shows Machida landed more significant strikes in rd one, I think they are showing shots thrown by Page cause no way he landed that many body shots in the 1st. I would have possible scored it official a draw if I were a judge, which is the way they scored it, which would then be completely understandable for the immediate rematch.

I like(as in hate) how people were all over the fight metric for Shogun-Machida I, people treated it like it was infallible but disregard the fight metric for Penn-Edgar I and Machida-Rampage. Two fights where the underdog won. Nobody will go around posting the fight metric for this one for every post like they did Shogun-Machida I.

Machida should have won.

Machida won that fight clearly, but I in no way want to see a rematch of two men who won't engage, Rampage had the openings but wouldn't pull the trigger, and Machida was fighting very tentative for the first two rounds, it looked like Rampage finally said Fuck it I am losing and I need to press the fight, I was suprised that Machida hurt him like that, but don't see a rematch being any better. And judging from what Dana has been saying, he does not want to see it either.

KingsOwn19 wrote:

I like(as in hate) how people were all over the fight metric for Shogun-Machida I, people treated it like it was infallible but disregard the fight metric for Penn-Edgar I and Machida-Rampage. Two fights where the underdog won. Nobody will go around posting the fight metric for this one for every post like they did Shogun-Machida I.

Machida should have won.

While I agree, I also think that the Shogun-Machida I fight was different in one respect. There was a lot of action through out the fight and the fighters were landing significant shots. People who felt Shogun was robbed thought so because they thought it was clear that he was landing the more significant shots. So they went to fight metric and used that to show their argument. The Penn-Edgar and Machida-Rampage fights were also close fights, but there were far fewer significant shots landed in the rounds that were close. I can honestly say that I couldn't tell who won the Penn-Edgar fight and last night's fight and wouldn't care if the decisions went the opposite way. It so happens that fight metric's numbers show that Penn and Machida landed more significant shots, but simply watching those fights it was harder to tell.

cascade_run wrote:

Machida won that fight clearly, but I in no way want to see a rematch of two men who won't engage, Rampage had the openings but wouldn't pull the trigger, and Machida was fighting very tentative for the first two rounds, it looked like Rampage finally said Fuck it I am losing and I need to press the fight, I was suprised that Machida hurt him like that, but don't see a rematch being any better. And judging from what Dana has been saying, he does not want to see it either.

I just don't see how people can be saying this if they watched the fight. Dude it was a close fight, could've been a draw, and if it wasn't it had to be a SD which it was. Stop

Ziggy116 wrote:

cascade_run wrote:

Machida won that fight clearly, but I in no way want to see a rematch of two men who won't engage, Rampage had the openings but wouldn't pull the trigger, and Machida was fighting very tentative for the first two rounds, it looked like Rampage finally said Fuck it I am losing and I need to press the fight, I was suprised that Machida hurt him like that, but don't see a rematch being any better. And judging from what Dana has been saying, he does not want to see it either.

I just don't see how people can be saying this if they watched the fight. Dude it was a close fight, could've been a draw, and if it wasn't it had to be a SD which it was. Stop

you cant win fights running away the whole time.

Ziggy116 wrote:

cascade_run wrote:

Machida won that fight clearly, but I in no way want to see a rematch of two men who won't engage, Rampage had the openings but wouldn't pull the trigger, and Machida was fighting very tentative for the first two rounds, it looked like Rampage finally said Fuck it I am losing and I need to press the fight, I was suprised that Machida hurt him like that, but don't see a rematch being any better. And judging from what Dana has been saying, he does not want to see it either.

I just don't see how people can be saying this if they watched the fight. Dude it was a close fight, could've been a draw, and if it wasn't it had to be a SD which it was. Stop

It had to be a split decision? What does that even mean?

KingsOwn19 wrote:

I like(as in hate) how people were all over the fight metric for Shogun-Machida I, people treated it like it was infallible but disregard the fight metric for Penn-Edgar I and Machida-Rampage. Two fights where the underdog won. Nobody will go around posting the fight metric for this one for every post like they did Shogun-Machida I.

Machida should have won.

Eh, like Chaos said, Machida vs Shogun was a technical striking match with actual strikes landing. The first 2 rounds of Machida-Rampage took place mostly in the clinch against the fence with neither dude really landing anything. The only real factor in determining the decision for Shogun-Machida was who landed the harder and more frequent strikes. Since neither dude last night was doing shit, stuff like aggressiveness and octagon control actually mattered

I scored it 29-28 Rampage,

Gave rampage 1st and 2nd

3rd was Machida but Rampage did enough to not make it a 10-8

Birdofthad wrote:

I scored it 29-28 Rampage,

Gave rampage 1st and 2nd

3rd was Machida but Rampage did enough to not make it a 10-8

+1

the only way page won the 1st and 2nd round was only if people agree that all page did was clinch machida against the cage (ala rashad) in order to gain points by octogon control but unlike rashad failed to take machida down. if that the case then yes page won the first 2 rounds were he played it safe in order not to engage. once he did in the third it was clear who the better fighter was

throwdownfight1 wrote:

the only way page won the 1st and 2nd round was only if people agree that all page did was clinch machida against the cage (ala rashad) in order to gain points by octogon control but unlike rashad failed to take machida down. if that the case then yes page won the first 2 rounds were he played it safe in order not to engage. once he did in the third it was clear who the better fighter was

as much as we might hate it, THIS IS HOW MMA IS JUDGED!!! and FYI he did take him down in the second!

Aggression and octagon control are what won the first two rounds for Rampage with a judge. However the first round probably should have gone to Machida based on the number of strikes landed in the first. It is what it is. Neither fighter fought comfortably.

As both fighters are 2 of my top 10 favorite fighters alltime, I have no bias here so..

Although Page may have tried to push the pace and gain octagon control more in the 1st, he didn't do so enough for his lack of landed strikes to give him the rd, Machida landed more strikes in the 1st and his style dictated the rd, Page was swinging a missing a lot. Even the second was up in the air, I would have probably scored it for Page if I remmeber correctly, but it wasn't dominant by any means. The 3rd was obvious. When I think about the fight, and I've seen it twice, the best case I can make for Page is a draw, while with Machida I see a draw or win, this kind of close fight is the exact type of fight which requires an immediate rematch, Dana's missing the boat here.

I scored it 10-9, 10-10, 10-9 for a 30-28 win for Machida. The first round was clearly Machida's as he landed more of the cleaner, effective, hard strikes. Rampage only landed 2 hard strikes. As for the second round, neither fighter did anything of note to deserve to win the round. A lot of people trumpet the takedown Rampage had, but they seem to not understand that the "get up" Machida had negates the takedown because Rampage didn't do anything with the takedown.