King Mo-"I'm done holding my tongue"

Exposed in what? He had already shown good striking and we know his wrestling is some of the best in MMA. Brock doesn't have great(just good) wrestling and has abysmal striking. Mo has been a boxing fan and trained boxing his whole life.

He has a lot of work to do still. Where he is with his better talents(wrestling and hard punches) makes him dangerous and suited to be highly ranked right now, similar to an Arsken, maybe a little further advanced, but he has a lot of work to do still. A guy on his back can't bloody you up round after round.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Exposed in what? He had already shown good striking and we know his wrestling is some of the best in MMA. Brock doesn't have great(just good) wrestling and has abysmal striking. Mo has been a boxing fan and trained boxing his whole life.

Come on now, I won't say he is a bum but his striking is OK, I wouldn't go as far as to call it "good". The guy is still very raw and IMO he wouldn't do well in the UFC vs the top level guys right now. Most have him ranked in the top 10 and I have him just outside that mark. Some think he might be ready to challenge guys like Evans and Rampage. I disagree. I think he is being pushed too fast and people are ranking him too high too fast. He has decent power in the standup but he isn't a good striker.

I think King Mo is good. His standup needs work but he is tough and obviously has great wrestling.

He's just making excuses here, though.

I want to see Sonnen and King Mo now! Sonnen injects some shark piss and BOOM! Kicks Mo's ass.

Mo is every bit as good or better than Bader.

I like Lawal a lot more than Bader. Better wrestler. Better striker. Probably equal conditioning.

I still think Bader should have lost to Nog and be put in the kneejerk fans overrated pile...which i've had him in from the jump.

TRIPLE D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

King Mo would beat the shit out of Brock Lesnar at HW, I firmly believe that.

This would surprise me a whole lot less after last weekend. Lasnar would again really only have an advantage in power. I think Mo has better speed, wrestling and striking. It would be a better fight than Lesnar had with Cain though. Cain is beyond Mo significantly right now I think.

OU wrote:

most overrated fighter in MMA now that Brock is dethroned.

+1

As an mma fan, this is what I dislike about mma fans in general...this idea that if a guy loses, he was "exposed." Mo is ultra talented and anyone who really watches mma who claims otherwise is biased and kidding themselves. So the guy lost one fight...big deal. He will come back better each time as long as his knee stays healthy. He was supposed to be "exposed" by Moussasi, and then when he beat Moussasi, all the same people here were still saying how Moussasi is great and Mo will still be "exposed" or what not. Anyway, imo Mo would beat Bader. His last fight, he clearly looked flat and anyone can look flat in a fight. Let his knee heal, ignore the talk and just watch the man fight. The talk is for the casual fans anyway because they are not interested in the fight unless there is drama. Be honest with yourself, King Mo is definitely a top 15 LHW.

jimbojones1950 wrote:

As an mma fan, this is what I dislike about mma fans in general...this idea that if a guy loses, he was "exposed." Mo is ultra talented and anyone who really watches mma who claims otherwise is biased and kidding themselves. So the guy lost one fight...big deal. He will come back better each time as long as his knee stays healthy. He was supposed to be "exposed" by Moussasi, and then when he beat Moussasi, all the same people here were still saying how Moussasi is great and Mo will still be "exposed" or what not. Anyway, imo Mo would beat Bader. His last fight, he clearly looked flat and anyone can look flat in a fight. Let his knee heal, ignore the talk and just watch the man fight. The talk is for the casual fans anyway because they are not interested in the fight unless there is drama. Be honest with yourself, King Mo is definitely a top 15 LHW.

I have no problem with someone calling him top 15. It's when he starts creeping in around #8 that starts to bother me. Just FYI I thought before the Mo fight that Mousasi was overrated at LHW and I still think that. After watching that fight it confirmed in my mind that both fighters are overrated. Neither are top 10 in my mind. I'll put them much closer to #15.

OU wrote:

jimbojones1950 wrote:

As an mma fan, this is what I dislike about mma fans in general...this idea that if a guy loses, he was "exposed." Mo is ultra talented and anyone who really watches mma who claims otherwise is biased and kidding themselves. So the guy lost one fight...big deal. He will come back better each time as long as his knee stays healthy. He was supposed to be "exposed" by Moussasi, and then when he beat Moussasi, all the same people here were still saying how Moussasi is great and Mo will still be "exposed" or what not. Anyway, imo Mo would beat Bader. His last fight, he clearly looked flat and anyone can look flat in a fight. Let his knee heal, ignore the talk and just watch the man fight. The talk is for the casual fans anyway because they are not interested in the fight unless there is drama. Be honest with yourself, King Mo is definitely a top 15 LHW.

I have no problem with someone calling him top 15. It's when he starts creeping in around #8 that starts to bother me. Just FYI I thought before the Mo fight that Mousasi was overrated at LHW and I still think that. After watching that fight it confirmed in my mind that both fighters are overrated. Neither are top 10 in my mind. I'll put them much closer to #15.

Fair enough. Id say if Mo is in the UFC in 2 years, he will be a title contender and will reach top 5 status by then.

jimbojones1950 wrote:

OU wrote:

jimbojones1950 wrote:

As an mma fan, this is what I dislike about mma fans in general...this idea that if a guy loses, he was "exposed." Mo is ultra talented and anyone who really watches mma who claims otherwise is biased and kidding themselves. So the guy lost one fight...big deal. He will come back better each time as long as his knee stays healthy. He was supposed to be "exposed" by Moussasi, and then when he beat Moussasi, all the same people here were still saying how Moussasi is great and Mo will still be "exposed" or what not. Anyway, imo Mo would beat Bader. His last fight, he clearly looked flat and anyone can look flat in a fight. Let his knee heal, ignore the talk and just watch the man fight. The talk is for the casual fans anyway because they are not interested in the fight unless there is drama. Be honest with yourself, King Mo is definitely a top 15 LHW.

I have no problem with someone calling him top 15. It's when he starts creeping in around #8 that starts to bother me. Just FYI I thought before the Mo fight that Mousasi was overrated at LHW and I still think that. After watching that fight it confirmed in my mind that both fighters are overrated. Neither are top 10 in my mind. I'll put them much closer to #15.

Fair enough. Id say if Mo is in the UFC in 2 years, he will be a title contender and will reach top 5 status by then.

Honestly, he's way too old for that to happen

jimbojones1950 wrote:

OU wrote:

jimbojones1950 wrote:

As an mma fan, this is what I dislike about mma fans in general...this idea that if a guy loses, he was "exposed." Mo is ultra talented and anyone who really watches mma who claims otherwise is biased and kidding themselves. So the guy lost one fight...big deal. He will come back better each time as long as his knee stays healthy. He was supposed to be "exposed" by Moussasi, and then when he beat Moussasi, all the same people here were still saying how Moussasi is great and Mo will still be "exposed" or what not. Anyway, imo Mo would beat Bader. His last fight, he clearly looked flat and anyone can look flat in a fight. Let his knee heal, ignore the talk and just watch the man fight. The talk is for the casual fans anyway because they are not interested in the fight unless there is drama. Be honest with yourself, King Mo is definitely a top 15 LHW.

I have no problem with someone calling him top 15. It's when he starts creeping in around #8 that starts to bother me. Just FYI I thought before the Mo fight that Mousasi was overrated at LHW and I still think that. After watching that fight it confirmed in my mind that both fighters are overrated. Neither are top 10 in my mind. I'll put them much closer to #15.

Fair enough. Id say if Mo is in the UFC in 2 years, he will be a title contender and will reach top 5 status by then.

In 2 years I expect Mo to tighten his game and at that point be a very legit threat. I just think people are jumping on him as a top guy too early, that's all.

killerofchicken wrote:

jimbojones1950 wrote:

OU wrote:

jimbojones1950 wrote:

As an mma fan, this is what I dislike about mma fans in general...this idea that if a guy loses, he was "exposed." Mo is ultra talented and anyone who really watches mma who claims otherwise is biased and kidding themselves. So the guy lost one fight...big deal. He will come back better each time as long as his knee stays healthy. He was supposed to be "exposed" by Moussasi, and then when he beat Moussasi, all the same people here were still saying how Moussasi is great and Mo will still be "exposed" or what not. Anyway, imo Mo would beat Bader. His last fight, he clearly looked flat and anyone can look flat in a fight. Let his knee heal, ignore the talk and just watch the man fight. The talk is for the casual fans anyway because they are not interested in the fight unless there is drama. Be honest with yourself, King Mo is definitely a top 15 LHW.

I have no problem with someone calling him top 15. It's when he starts creeping in around #8 that starts to bother me. Just FYI I thought before the Mo fight that Mousasi was overrated at LHW and I still think that. After watching that fight it confirmed in my mind that both fighters are overrated. Neither are top 10 in my mind. I'll put them much closer to #15.

Fair enough. Id say if Mo is in the UFC in 2 years, he will be a title contender and will reach top 5 status by then.

Honestly, he's way too old for that to happen

?

He's only 29 and just made his debut 2 years ago. The health of his knee would be the only thing preventing that

bobbitt15 wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

jimbojones1950 wrote:

OU wrote:

jimbojones1950 wrote:

As an mma fan, this is what I dislike about mma fans in general...this idea that if a guy loses, he was "exposed." Mo is ultra talented and anyone who really watches mma who claims otherwise is biased and kidding themselves. So the guy lost one fight...big deal. He will come back better each time as long as his knee stays healthy. He was supposed to be "exposed" by Moussasi, and then when he beat Moussasi, all the same people here were still saying how Moussasi is great and Mo will still be "exposed" or what not. Anyway, imo Mo would beat Bader. His last fight, he clearly looked flat and anyone can look flat in a fight. Let his knee heal, ignore the talk and just watch the man fight. The talk is for the casual fans anyway because they are not interested in the fight unless there is drama. Be honest with yourself, King Mo is definitely a top 15 LHW.

I have no problem with someone calling him top 15. It's when he starts creeping in around #8 that starts to bother me. Just FYI I thought before the Mo fight that Mousasi was overrated at LHW and I still think that. After watching that fight it confirmed in my mind that both fighters are overrated. Neither are top 10 in my mind. I'll put them much closer to #15.

Fair enough. Id say if Mo is in the UFC in 2 years, he will be a title contender and will reach top 5 status by then.

Honestly, he's way too old for that to happen

?

He's only 29 and just made his debut 2 years ago. The health of his knee would be the only thing preventing that

Yeah I'm with Bobbitt on this. He is still young enough. Plenty of MMA fighters don't peak until early 30s.

OU wrote:

bobbitt15 wrote:

killerofchicken wrote:

jimbojones1950 wrote:

OU wrote:

jimbojones1950 wrote:

As an mma fan, this is what I dislike about mma fans in general...this idea that if a guy loses, he was "exposed." Mo is ultra talented and anyone who really watches mma who claims otherwise is biased and kidding themselves. So the guy lost one fight...big deal. He will come back better each time as long as his knee stays healthy. He was supposed to be "exposed" by Moussasi, and then when he beat Moussasi, all the same people here were still saying how Moussasi is great and Mo will still be "exposed" or what not. Anyway, imo Mo would beat Bader. His last fight, he clearly looked flat and anyone can look flat in a fight. Let his knee heal, ignore the talk and just watch the man fight. The talk is for the casual fans anyway because they are not interested in the fight unless there is drama. Be honest with yourself, King Mo is definitely a top 15 LHW.

I have no problem with someone calling him top 15. It's when he starts creeping in around #8 that starts to bother me. Just FYI I thought before the Mo fight that Mousasi was overrated at LHW and I still think that. After watching that fight it confirmed in my mind that both fighters are overrated. Neither are top 10 in my mind. I'll put them much closer to #15.

Fair enough. Id say if Mo is in the UFC in 2 years, he will be a title contender and will reach top 5 status by then.

Honestly, he's way too old for that to happen

?

He's only 29 and just made his debut 2 years ago. The health of his knee would be the only thing preventing that

Yeah I'm with Bobbitt on this. He is still young enough. Plenty of MMA fighters don't peak until early 30s.

I'd rather wait and see his next fight, knee problems are tuff to come back from... especially when as you age