The HW problem/Boxing problem

OK I just thought of something that would be a great buisness decision for the big promoters. Why dont they start putting in boxing gyms that are free to anyone under 18 in poor neighborhoods. Would that not bring back boxing in a lot of ways? Anyways its just an idea. What do you guys think?

They cant make them free because they would have to pay staff, equipment, locations, water, lights, etc. There are just to many things that need up keep to have the gym for free in my opion.

timthebim wrote:

They cant make them free because they would have to pay staff, equipment, locations, water, lights, etc. There are just to many things that need up keep to have the gym for free in my opion.

Free to the people under 18. Think about it. Say Bob Arum starts a top rank gym. He gets 50 kids to join then maybe one of them becomes a star and starts making him millions. Is that not worth it to a guy as rich as arum? It is an investment to be sure. But someone will come out of those gyms that would be stars.

idk if thats the real problem. around here my friend runs the gym and is sooooo much cheaper than other martial art. btw the boxing gym is always packed. there's a bjj gym here that gabriel gonzaga goes to the ufc guy and they use to charge 50 a month FOR KIDS. i believe the boxing gym is 60 FOR THE YEAR.
i just think parents just forget that a boxing gym is ACTUALLY an option that they can bring their kids into.

soonermark890 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

They cant make them free because they would have to pay staff, equipment, locations, water, lights, etc. There are just to many things that need up keep to have the gym for free in my opion.

Free to the people under 18. Think about it. Say Bob Arum starts a top rank gym. He gets 50 kids to join then maybe one of them becomes a star and starts making him millions. Is that not worth it to a guy as rich as arum? It is an investment to be sure. But someone will come out of those gyms that would be stars.

bobs a jew come on now sooner, there's no way he would give anything for free jk

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

They cant make them free because they would have to pay staff, equipment, locations, water, lights, etc. There are just to many things that need up keep to have the gym for free in my opion.

Free to the people under 18. Think about it. Say Bob Arum starts a top rank gym. He gets 50 kids to join then maybe one of them becomes a star and starts making him millions. Is that not worth it to a guy as rich as arum? It is an investment to be sure. But someone will come out of those gyms that would be stars.

bobs a jew come on now sooner, there's no way he would give anything for free jk

LMFAO. He would to make millions.

But is it a good idea? Or am I just being hopefull?

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

They cant make them free because they would have to pay staff, equipment, locations, water, lights, etc. There are just to many things that need up keep to have the gym for free in my opion.

Free to the people under 18. Think about it. Say Bob Arum starts a top rank gym. He gets 50 kids to join then maybe one of them becomes a star and starts making him millions. Is that not worth it to a guy as rich as arum? It is an investment to be sure. But someone will come out of those gyms that would be stars.

bobs a jew come on now sooner, there's no way he would give anything for free jk

LMFAO. He would to make millions.

But is it a good idea? Or am I just being hopefull?

like i said i think we should bring it out there more and notify kids about the sport. i always place flyers for kids where i work at so that they are aware of this program.
parents always think of baseball, soccer, basketball or football. and let's be real the avarage parent thinks of karate as a martial art lmao but i agree trouble youths like the ones i work with should always have the option of going to a boxing gym.

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

They cant make them free because they would have to pay staff, equipment, locations, water, lights, etc. There are just to many things that need up keep to have the gym for free in my opion.

Free to the people under 18. Think about it. Say Bob Arum starts a top rank gym. He gets 50 kids to join then maybe one of them becomes a star and starts making him millions. Is that not worth it to a guy as rich as arum? It is an investment to be sure. But someone will come out of those gyms that would be stars.

bobs a jew come on now sooner, there's no way he would give anything for free jk

LMFAO. He would to make millions.

But is it a good idea? Or am I just being hopefull?

like i said i think we should bring it out there more and notify kids about the sport. i always place flyers for kids where i work at so that they are aware of this program.
parents always think of baseball, soccer, basketball or football. and let's be real the avarage parent thinks of karate as a martial art lmao but i agree trouble youths like the ones i work with should always have the option of going to a boxing gym.

Yeah one way to get them into boxing is going to the schools and recruit. Put up flyers in the schools. Make an after school boxing program. All schools are open to these ideas and would let you speek to the students. All you have to do is ask.

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

They cant make them free because they would have to pay staff, equipment, locations, water, lights, etc. There are just to many things that need up keep to have the gym for free in my opion.

Free to the people under 18. Think about it. Say Bob Arum starts a top rank gym. He gets 50 kids to join then maybe one of them becomes a star and starts making him millions. Is that not worth it to a guy as rich as arum? It is an investment to be sure. But someone will come out of those gyms that would be stars.

bobs a jew come on now sooner, there's no way he would give anything for free jk

LMFAO. He would to make millions.

But is it a good idea? Or am I just being hopefull?

like i said i think we should bring it out there more and notify kids about the sport. i always place flyers for kids where i work at so that they are aware of this program.
parents always think of baseball, soccer, basketball or football. and let's be real the avarage parent thinks of karate as a martial art lmao but i agree trouble youths like the ones i work with should always have the option of going to a boxing gym.

Yeah one way to get them into boxing is going to the schools and recruit. Put up flyers in the schools. Make an after school boxing program. All schools are open to these ideas and would let you speek to the students. All you have to do is ask.

i was just watching how in some areas in chicago they actually do have boxing programs run by former gang members.

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

They cant make them free because they would have to pay staff, equipment, locations, water, lights, etc. There are just to many things that need up keep to have the gym for free in my opion.

Free to the people under 18. Think about it. Say Bob Arum starts a top rank gym. He gets 50 kids to join then maybe one of them becomes a star and starts making him millions. Is that not worth it to a guy as rich as arum? It is an investment to be sure. But someone will come out of those gyms that would be stars.

bobs a jew come on now sooner, there's no way he would give anything for free jk

LMFAO. He would to make millions.

But is it a good idea? Or am I just being hopefull?

Good idea yes, ever gonna happen NO!

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

They cant make them free because they would have to pay staff, equipment, locations, water, lights, etc. There are just to many things that need up keep to have the gym for free in my opion.

Free to the people under 18. Think about it. Say Bob Arum starts a top rank gym. He gets 50 kids to join then maybe one of them becomes a star and starts making him millions. Is that not worth it to a guy as rich as arum? It is an investment to be sure. But someone will come out of those gyms that would be stars.

bobs a jew come on now sooner, there's no way he would give anything for free jk

LMFAO. He would to make millions.

But is it a good idea? Or am I just being hopefull?

like i said i think we should bring it out there more and notify kids about the sport. i always place flyers for kids where i work at so that they are aware of this program.
parents always think of baseball, soccer, basketball or football. and let's be real the avarage parent thinks of karate as a martial art lmao but i agree trouble youths like the ones i work with should always have the option of going to a boxing gym.

Yeah one way to get them into boxing is going to the schools and recruit. Put up flyers in the schools. Make an after school boxing program. All schools are open to these ideas and would let you speek to the students. All you have to do is ask.

i was just watching how in some areas in chicago they actually do have boxing programs run by former gang members.

Every state in the US should have a boxing program.

timthebim wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

They cant make them free because they would have to pay staff, equipment, locations, water, lights, etc. There are just to many things that need up keep to have the gym for free in my opion.

Free to the people under 18. Think about it. Say Bob Arum starts a top rank gym. He gets 50 kids to join then maybe one of them becomes a star and starts making him millions. Is that not worth it to a guy as rich as arum? It is an investment to be sure. But someone will come out of those gyms that would be stars.

bobs a jew come on now sooner, there's no way he would give anything for free jk

LMFAO. He would to make millions.

But is it a good idea? Or am I just being hopefull?

Good idea yes, ever gonna happen NO!

I was thinking the same thing.

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

timthebim wrote:

They cant make them free because they would have to pay staff, equipment, locations, water, lights, etc. There are just to many things that need up keep to have the gym for free in my opion.

Free to the people under 18. Think about it. Say Bob Arum starts a top rank gym. He gets 50 kids to join then maybe one of them becomes a star and starts making him millions. Is that not worth it to a guy as rich as arum? It is an investment to be sure. But someone will come out of those gyms that would be stars.

bobs a jew come on now sooner, there's no way he would give anything for free jk

LMFAO. He would to make millions.

But is it a good idea? Or am I just being hopefull?

like i said i think we should bring it out there more and notify kids about the sport. i always place flyers for kids where i work at so that they are aware of this program.
parents always think of baseball, soccer, basketball or football. and let's be real the avarage parent thinks of karate as a martial art lmao but i agree trouble youths like the ones i work with should always have the option of going to a boxing gym.

Yeah one way to get them into boxing is going to the schools and recruit. Put up flyers in the schools. Make an after school boxing program. All schools are open to these ideas and would let you speek to the students. All you have to do is ask.

i was just watching how in some areas in chicago they actually do have boxing programs run by former gang members.

Every state in the US should have a boxing program.

they do

Whats sad is I live just outside of OKC and I have never heard of one. There needs to be more advertisement. I am telling you if they just went to all the schools close by they would get a ton of kids to join.

soonermark890 wrote:

Whats sad is I live just outside of OKC and I have never heard of one. There needs to be more advertisement. I am telling you if they just went to all the schools close by they would get a ton of kids to join.

you should take the initiave sooner. i do all the time with my clients. im a case worker for teens and i always put it out there as an option. i've actually have gotten a couple of kids to go but then they quit lol what do you do for a living if you dont mind me asking?

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Whats sad is I live just outside of OKC and I have never heard of one. There needs to be more advertisement. I am telling you if they just went to all the schools close by they would get a ton of kids to join.

you should take the initiave sooner. i do all the time with my clients. im a case worker for teens and i always put it out there as an option. i've actually have gotten a couple of kids to go but then they quit lol what do you do for a living if you dont mind me asking?

I am a teacher and coach. If I knew where there is a boxing gym that does this stuff I would hand out flyers for them. I could also get a friend of mine to do it. He is a teacher in the ghetto.

lmao you have the perfect job to do this as i do bro. my friends gym is at the local community center here in springfield mass. you should find out if any of the community centers whether is boys and girls or ymca have programs. another way would be contacting the oklahoma boxing commision they HAVE to know where you can go and do this.

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

lmao you have the perfect job to do this as i do bro. my friends gym is at the local community center here in springfield mass. you should find out if any of the community centers whether is boys and girls or ymca have programs. another way would be contacting the oklahoma boxing commision they HAVE to know where you can go and do this.

Thats not a bad idea. The problem is my school is middle class white america. Not the best clients to be recruiting. LOL

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

lmao you have the perfect job to do this as i do bro. my friends gym is at the local community center here in springfield mass. you should find out if any of the community centers whether is boys and girls or ymca have programs. another way would be contacting the oklahoma boxing commision they HAVE to know where you can go and do this.

Thats not a bad idea. The problem is my school is middle class white america. Not the best clients to be recruiting. LOL

you never know. just plant the seed or hook up with your buddy in the ghetto...btw tommy morisson is from your area and he was middle class no?

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

RUM CAPITAL wrote:

lmao you have the perfect job to do this as i do bro. my friends gym is at the local community center here in springfield mass. you should find out if any of the community centers whether is boys and girls or ymca have programs. another way would be contacting the oklahoma boxing commision they HAVE to know where you can go and do this.

Thats not a bad idea. The problem is my school is middle class white america. Not the best clients to be recruiting. LOL

you never know. just plant the seed or hook up with your buddy in the ghetto...btw tommy morisson is from your area and he was middle class no?

Very true. He has a gym in Norman OK I think.

Where do the teachers/trainers come from?

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Where do the teachers/trainers come from?

I dont know thats a big ?. Maybe the boxers who train at the gym could do a couple of hours teaching the next generation.

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Where do the teachers/trainers come from?

I dont know thats a big ?. Maybe the boxers who train at the gym could do a couple of hours teaching the next generation.

What I mean is I am perfectly competent to work with beginning amateurs and teach fitness and basic boxing skills. Stance, basic footwork, how to hit the various bags etc. But the difference between me and the guy who runs the gym, who is competent to handle experienced amateurs, teach fight tactics, be useful in a corner is miles and miles. The coaches who come to visit from Oahu and who handle natgional level amateurs are a cut above that but they aren't ready to handle pros either.

Where do THOSE guys come from? Of course given the cornerwork we see perhaps they simply don't exist in great numbers anymore.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Where do the teachers/trainers come from?

I dont know thats a big ?. Maybe the boxers who train at the gym could do a couple of hours teaching the next generation.

What I mean is I am perfectly competent to work with beginning amateurs and teach fitness and basic boxing skills. Stance, basic footwork, how to hit the various bags etc. But the difference between me and the guy who runs the gym, who is competent to handle experienced amateurs, teach fight tactics, be useful in a corner is miles and miles. The coaches who come to visit from Oahu and who handle natgional level amateurs are a cut above that but they aren't ready to handle pros either.

Where do THOSE guys come from? Of course given the cornerwork we see perhaps they simply don't exist in great numbers anymore.

Yeah I dont have an answer for you. They have to be out there dont they?

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

Where do the teachers/trainers come from?

I dont know thats a big ?. Maybe the boxers who train at the gym could do a couple of hours teaching the next generation.

What I mean is I am perfectly competent to work with beginning amateurs and teach fitness and basic boxing skills. Stance, basic footwork, how to hit the various bags etc. But the difference between me and the guy who runs the gym, who is competent to handle experienced amateurs, teach fight tactics, be useful in a corner is miles and miles. The coaches who come to visit from Oahu and who handle natgional level amateurs are a cut above that but they aren't ready to handle pros either.

Where do THOSE guys come from? Of course given the cornerwork we see perhaps they simply don't exist in great numbers anymore.

Yeah I dont have an answer for you. They have to be out there dont they?

No actually they don't. If they were I don't think Manny Steward would be conducting seminars and I don't think fighters from all over the world would be going to the Wild Card. I know I sound like a broken record, but I look back at the great trainers who were still around in the 1970's and who had been doing it for 30+ years. Names like Futch and Dundee and Arcel and Clancy and Sandy Saddler and Freddie Brown and Teddy Bentham and Cuyo Hernandez and Victor Valle and Lou Duva and Tony Ayala and Al Certo and Cus Damato then I think well Futch taught Roach and Certo taught McGirt and Cus taught Teddy AND THAT'S IT????????????

I really do think we've lost a generation of boxing knowledge