Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz did between 150,000 to 200,000 PPV buys

Lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez's decision against Juan Diaz in their pay-per-view rematch of 2009's fight of the year last week generated between 150,000 and 200,000 buys, far exceeding what was needed to break even, Golden Boy's Schaefer told ESPN.com. "I think it has an opportunity to reach 200,000," Schaefer said. "We only have the satellite numbers, but they are strong. I'm very pleased. With the gate we did, $900,000, and the closed circuit, it shows that Marquez has established himself as a star in the United States. It also shows as well that an outstanding undercard created an event not only driven by the main event. I was very pleased with the way it was embraced."

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Good and bad...good sign that it well but that means GBP likely be more inclined to do cards like this on PPV

More PPV = not good

gomez1012 wrote:

Good and bad...good sign that it well but that means GBP likely be more inclined to do cards like this on PPV

More PPV = not good

well in all honesty i was glad that they put a great undercard together. one thing i always noticed when i would go to donking events were that he would always put a good undercard so if goldenboy follows this pattern it would be great. as far as ppv we are wayyyy past the point of them giving us anything for free although they did have a couple of the fights for this event for free.

I expected it to at least get over 300,000, that's a pretty poor number considering Marquez is a big name.

Ali_1748 wrote:

I expected it to at least get over 300,000, that's a pretty poor number considering Marquez is a big name.

I think 200k is just about right

Good card overall but the main event was so-so w/an expected outcome
Marquez was coming off a loss to Floyd, Diaz off two L's to Paulie....Marquez a big favorite

Rum, on PPVs, it just sucks man. $50-60 a pop, I dont want it to be like wrestling or UFC, where every month or so you got to cough up that much to enjoy the fights....

Shit, PPV is suppose to be for the truly big fights...now a tool to milk fans for their $

gomez1012 wrote:

Ali_1748 wrote:

I expected it to at least get over 300,000, that's a pretty poor number considering Marquez is a big name.

I think 200k is just about right

Good card overall but the main event was so-so w/an expected outcome
Marquez was coming off a loss to Floyd, Diaz off two L's to Paulie....Marquez a big favorite

Rum, on PPVs, it just sucks man. $50-60 a pop, I dont want it to be like wrestling or UFC, where every month or so you got to cough up that much to enjoy the fights....

Shit, PPV is suppose to be for the truly big fights...now a tool to milk fans for their $

i think it just did around 200,000 because of diaz losing to paulie. and yeah when you have a fighter like calderon or chavez jr headlining in ppvs then you know the ppv thing has gotten out of hand

heck i'll even take it a step higher. last week i was looking for a stream for the rosado-ennis fight..AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY SELLING THIS FOR 15 BUCKS AS PPV LMAO

So do I hjave the math right? $900k gate plus 50% x $50 x 200,000?

That's revenue of just shy of $6 million.

HBO wasn't gonna pay that. Sounds to me like goiing PPV made economic sense.

marbleheadmaui wrote:

So do I hjave the math right? $900k gate plus 50% x $50 x 200,000?

That's revenue of just shy of $6 million.

HBO wasn't gonna pay that. Sounds to me like goiing PPV made economic sense.

HBO paid 2.25 million for Khan-Paulie and Ortiz-Campbell, paid 3 million for ONE fight in Cintron-Williams

6 million for 4 good match ups, THATS A BARGAIN!!!

marbleheadmaui wrote:

So do I hjave the math right? $900k gate plus 50% x $50 x 200,000?

That's revenue of just shy of $6 million.

HBO wasn't gonna pay that. Sounds to me like goiing PPV made economic sense.

I just expected a bit more buys, I mean Pavlik vs Hopkins only done 170,000 buys.

Ali_1748 wrote:

marbleheadmaui wrote:

So do I hjave the math right? $900k gate plus 50% x $50 x 200,000?

That's revenue of just shy of $6 million.

HBO wasn't gonna pay that. Sounds to me like goiing PPV made economic sense.

I just expect a bit more buys, I mean Pavlik vs Hopkins only done 170,000 buys.

I hear ya.

That is right on with the number I expected.

i agree ppv fights get out of hand.if 200 000 was a success yet mannys700 000 against clottey is a failure.170000 for pavik and bo hop..bo hop cant draw ..soo the bar in the future for many fights will be 150 000 or 200 000 and forget showtime and hbo..whos the sucker..its the ppv buyers .yep go ahead keep paying for that stuff..it will get to the point of one a week..for fights that are not a must see no matter what type of fight...keep being a sucker.this way fighters keep getting far more money then there talent deserves..
how many on this board are multi millionares..thats what you create in one fight by paying money for a event thats not a must see fight..150 000 200 000 is the new bar for success..thats a breeze cause there are too many suckers out there..
hey football should look at this..forget reg tv folks.there are far more die hard football fans that will fork over 50 a week for 16 to 20 weeks then there are boxing fans..sorry thats how i feel...the suckers created this monster and will feed it noo matter what slop they serve up...

i dont like how he says "far exceeding what we needed to break even" like come on, that doesnt exactly sound ambitious

dmar5143 wrote:

i agree ppv fights get out of hand.if 200 000 was a success yet mannys700 000 against clottey is a failure.170000 for pavik and bo hop..bo hop cant draw ..soo the bar in the future for many fights will be 150 000 or 200 000 and forget showtime and hbo..whos the sucker..its the ppv buyers .yep go ahead keep paying for that stuff..it will get to the point of one a week..for fights that are not a must see no matter what type of fight...keep being a sucker.this way fighters keep getting far more money then there talent deserves..
how many on this board are multi millionares..thats what you create in one fight by paying money for a event thats not a must see fight..150 000 200 000 is the new bar for success..thats a breeze cause there are too many suckers out there..
hey football should look at this..forget reg tv folks.there are far more die hard football fans that will fork over 50 a week for 16 to 20 weeks then there are boxing fans..sorry thats how i feel...the suckers created this monster and will feed it noo matter what slop they serve up...

Yep, like Rum mentioned some unknowns on PPV and worst of all this year on PPV - Hopkins vs Jones II

it's a solid number for a second tier fight. do the math.

my worry is they will start throwing more on ppv

I really wish I could get in the middle of these PPV fights. These mediocre fights are selling.

its not a great economic climate. People don't want to shell out $50 for a PPV.

It really didn't have 4 great matchups. Yeah, maybe I'm a bit negative, but even before the PPV, I was saying it wasn't worth the $50.

Too many matchups with guys not sharp in prior fight/fights.
1-Casamayor-KO'd by Marquez. Sits forever. Looks like shit against a journeyman at welter. Was screaming way past sell by date before the fight.
2-Guererro-he hadn't done alot in the last couple of years. Beating medium opposition while not fighting much. And he was slated to fight at 140, which is a new weight.
3-Juarez-he's always the same; he starts way too slow and plays catch-up.
4-Linares-he got KO'd and only had 1 comeback fight (where he didn't dominate and didn't look confident in his chin).
5-Marquez-sitting for almost a year and coming off of a bad loss
6-Diaz-KO'd in first fight, and was coming off of 2 losses to Paulie (we all know he lost the first fight).

I think I said saturday night, that this would have made for a couple of great regular HBO cards.

On paper it was a great card, it was sort of like a Boxing version of a UFC card.

I certainly didn't think it was worth $50 to watch on TV, but 150-200 K is a very solid number for this card.

I don't understand how anyone could be disappointed with that number. When Calzahge v Jones did that number...THAT was disappointing.

captainanddew wrote:

its not a great economic climate. People don't want to shell out $50 for a PPV.

It really didn't have 4 great matchups. Yeah, maybe I'm a bit negative, but even before the PPV, I was saying it wasn't worth the $50.

Too many matchups with guys not sharp in prior fight/fights.
1-Casamayor-KO'd by Marquez. Sits forever. Looks like shit against a journeyman at welter. Was screaming way past sell by date before the fight.
2-Guererro-he hadn't done alot in the last couple of years. Beating medium opposition while not fighting much. And he was slated to fight at 140, which is a new weight.
3-Juarez-he's always the same; he starts way too slow and plays catch-up.
4-Linares-he got KO'd and only had 1 comeback fight (where he didn't dominate and didn't look confident in his chin).
5-Marquez-sitting for almost a year and coming off of a bad loss
6-Diaz-KO'd in first fight, and was coming off of 2 losses to Paulie (we all know he lost the first fight).

I think I said saturday night, that this would have made for a couple of great regular HBO cards.

I'm happy the card did fairly well, even though I didn't pay for it. The card was solid. Every fighter on the card was top 20 in their division. It had a theme of old vets vs. newcomers. Everyone who won either already is or has the strong potential to become a title holder in their weight class. That's not including Bika-Mendy in a title eliminator and getting to see some good young prospects for free.

If you picked the card apart it would have been a solid HBO and Showtime card for 2 weeks.

That's what i pretty much expected. Mosley-Mora will do less than that.

It was a solid card, but a $50 PPV has to be more than solid.
I wanted to watch it. I couldn't justify paying $50 for it, so I was one of the guys on here who used alternative means.

200 thousanf buys makes you a ppv star WTF?

captainanddew wrote:

It was a solid card, but a $50 PPV has to be more than solid.
I wanted to watch it. I couldn't justify paying $50 for it, so I was one of the guys on here who used alternative means.

Paid $30.00 for it, Tecate $20 rebate