Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?

yo, they were playing against juiced pitchers. evens out. Their totals count. Anyway, Brock was busted with HGH. Case closed.

Really? When was that? I am not saying he hasn't done them, I just have no proof. BTW, you are right, I forgot about the pitchers. But now both of us are talking baseball.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Well take him off Ninja and replace him with Struve for all I care. Because after the first nine, there really isn't much depth to the HW division. Not like LHW or LW at least. As for "suspected" roids users? I don't count them until they are busted. Example: I do not acknowledge Barry Bond's, Sammy Sosa's or Mark McGwire's single-season HR record. There is Mickey Mantle, then the Babe. I can't believe I referenced baseball at Ninja's place.

You mean Roger Maris and then the Babe? And I don't think Bonds was ever officially busted. Yeah prob a good idea to leave the baseball references alone.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

yo, they were playing against juiced pitchers. evens out. Their totals count. Anyway, Brock was busted with HGH. Case closed.

judging by the statistics it obviously does not even out. And it would only even out if all pitchers juiced.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

yo, they were playing against juiced pitchers. evens out. Their totals count. Anyway, Brock was busted with HGH. Case closed.

Yeah I need a link to believe Brock was on HGH. I would think that I had heard of that one before. Not saying you are a liar, but you could have been misinformed. Brock has been in MMA for a few years and is probably the biggest name in the sport to date and I have never heard that.

Lesnar was arrested for possession steroids in 2001 and then the charges were dropped when they did tests on it

01. Fedor
02. Lesnar
03. Mir
04. Cain
05. Rogers
06. Carwin
07. Santos
08. Arlovski
09. Nog
10. Werdum

Fedor
Lesnar
Mir
Cain
Carwin
Santos
Rogers
Nog
AA
Werdum

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

01. Fedor
02. Lesnar
03. Mir
04. Cain
05. Rogers
06. Carwin
07. Santos
08. Arlovski
09. Nog
10. Werdum

really rogers at 5?

Rogers, Carwin and Santos are a toss up but Rogers has a win over Arlovski and the other 2 have never beaten anyone ranked that high so he gets the nod ahead of them.

captain organic wrote:

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Cain
5. Santos
6. Carwin
7. Nog
8. Werdum
9. Rogers
10. Antonio Silva? (sorry I am not putting the roids crew in my top 10 of anything)

Bigfoot was busted for roids also.

While Overeem is only suspected. As is Mir imo. And Brock is a pretty good candidate, at least at some point.

Didn't Brock get into some trouble over a big bag of growth inducing 'vitamins' in several years back. Must of been Barry Bonds Flax Seed oil.

oops posted before I finished reading the last few posts.

While a Louisville detective told TSG that the material was some kind of growth hormone, Lesnar's defense attorney, Scott Cox, characterized the confiscated pills as a "vitamin type of thing."

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/lesnarmug1.html

GDPofDRC wrote:

captain organic wrote:

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Cain
5. Santos
6. Carwin
7. Nog
8. Werdum
9. Rogers
10. Antonio Silva? (sorry I am not putting the roids crew in my top 10 of anything)

Bigfoot was busted for roids also.

While Overeem is only suspected. As is Mir imo. And Brock is a pretty good candidate, at least at some point.

Didn't Brock get into some trouble over a big bag of growth inducing 'vitamins' in several years back. Must of been Barry Bonds Flax Seed oil.

I have been waiting for a link to find that out myself. Can't believe it until I see proof.

1. Fedor (And it still isn't close)
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Cain
5. Dos Santos
6. Nog
7. Carwin
8. Barnett
9. Rogers
10. Arlovski

GDPofDRC wrote:

captain organic wrote:

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Cain
5. Santos
6. Carwin
7. Nog
8. Werdum
9. Rogers
10. Antonio Silva? (sorry I am not putting the roids crew in my top 10 of anything)

Bigfoot was busted for roids also.

While Overeem is only suspected. As is Mir imo. And Brock is a pretty good candidate, at least at some point.

Didn't Brock get into some trouble over a big bag of growth inducing 'vitamins' in several years back. Must of been Barry Bonds Flax Seed oil.

oops posted before I finished reading the last few posts.

While a Louisville detective told TSG that the material was some kind of growth hormone, Lesnar's defense attorney, Scott Cox, characterized the confiscated pills as a "vitamin type of thing."

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/lesnarmug1.html

So pretty much the cops thought they were steroids and tests PROVED that they were not steroids or HGH. Then the detectives apologized and said they thought they were HGH. That just proves how people take a story and make it what it isn't. Like I have said for the last few years. THERE IS NO PROOF I HAVE EVER HEARD THAT MAKES ME THINK LESNAR HAS EVER DONE STEROIDS.

Can someone prove he didn't? Are the only athletes who use ped's the ones who get caught? I doubt it myself so I'm left to form my own opinion. Nothing can be really proven.

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Cain
5. Rogers
6. Santos
7. Nog
8. Carwin
9. Werdum
10. Overeem

Rogers at 5? is this you Ninja?

I don't see how Rogers at 5 is so far-fetched.

I do. I just don't see him being able to beat guys like Carwin, Cain, JDS, and Mir. Then you throw in guys like Werdum & Nog who could very easily beat Rogers with a slick sub. I might even take Arlovski in a remacth because I don't think Rogers can do that again.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Can someone prove he didn't? Are the only athletes who use ped's the ones who get caught? I doubt it myself so I'm left to form my own opinion. Nothing can be really proven.

lmao I was just thinking "What the hell is PED's?" Took a sec but it almost went clear over my head. lol