Where is Cain in your top 10 HWs now?

Wherever i had Big Nog, Cain Velasquez is there now. So #3 or #4, and let's move Nog to maybe #5 or #6

I'll review my recent rankings there and get back to you on it...but Cain is definetly in for a bump. I just have to decide if i want to rank him ahead of Mir just yet.

yea wolffy im ranking fedro and Brock ahead and Mir jus by a bit its more a 3 a.) 3 b.)

Mir and Cain have two similar opponents and they finished Nog in the same fashion but since Mir finished Kongo i have to give him the slight nod...


in all honesty Cain is number 1 tho

Fedor
Cain
Lesnar
Mir
Dos Santos
Carwin
Nog
Rodgers
Arlovski
Werdum

Already said I think Cain beats Lesnar. Based on that, I see no reason to rank him below until I'm proven or persuaded otherwise.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Fedor
Cain
Lesnar
Mir
Dos Santos
Carwin
Nog
Rodgers
Arlovski
Werdum

Already said I think Cain beats Lesnar. Based on that, I see no reason to rank him below until I'm proven or persuaded otherwise.

This is the right rankings in my mind. Cain will be number 1 sooner or later.

1. Fedor
2. Brock
3. Carwin
4. Cain
5. Mir
6. JDS
7. Rogers
8. Werdum
9. Arlovski
10. Nelson

1. Fedor
2. Brock
3. Carwin
4. Cain
5. Mir
6. JDS
7. Rogers
8. Werdum
9. Arlovski
10. Nelson

is a win over gonzaga better then a win over Nog?

muayjitsu wrote:

is a win over gonzaga better then a win over Nog?

I honestly can see GG beating Nog. If you are referring to Carwin at 3? I just think Carwin is the guy that has the best chance against Lesnar in theUFC HW division. I also think AA got a crap win against Nelson. Nelson is better than people think. Just boring.

muayjitsu wrote:

is a win over gonzaga better then a win over Nog?

at this stage it just might be.

Slow the fuck down.

Please see Randy vs Gonzaga and Nog vs Randy for details(MMA math is allowed here because your premise is so silly anything else silly pales in comparison)

LOL sure it is now nog is garabage. Gonzaga's biggest win was cro cop he has lost to any other real competitor he has faced. Lets see werdum umm he lost, Rand guess what he lost that too, and carwin lost that too. No beating gonzaga is not better then beating nog.

You guys are being ridiculous.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Slow the fuck down.

Please see Randy vs Gonzaga and Nog vs Randy for details(MMA math is allowed here because your premise is so silly anything else silly pales in comparison)

Gonzaga would take Randy if they fought again. If his nose wasn't broke at the beginning of the fight he would have won. I know woulda coulda

muayjitsu wrote:

LOL sure it is now nog is garabage. Gonzaga's biggest win was cro cop he has lost to any other real competitor he has faced. Lets see werdum umm he lost, Rand guess what he lost that too, and carwin lost that too. No beating gonzaga is not better then beating nog.

Carwin is still 3 imo

LOL BBC many if your arguments are coming off of what seems to be those would coulda should of. I mean you rank carwin 3 cause you think he has a better shot against Brock not because he earned that spot.

I believe any guy in my top ten could beat NOG right now!

muayjitsu wrote:

LOL BBC many if your arguments are coming off of what seems to be those would coulda should of. I mean you rank carwin 3 cause you think he has a better shot against Brock not because he earned that spot.

My top 10 isn't all about a guy earning a spot. I think Carwin could beat the rest of my top 10. Just like my #2 guy can beat my #8. Purley my opinion!

and I have Cain at 4.

1)Fedor
2)Brock
3)Mir
4)Cain

bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:

muayjitsu wrote:

LOL BBC many if your arguments are coming off of what seems to be those would coulda should of. I mean you rank carwin 3 cause you think he has a better shot against Brock not because he earned that spot.

My top 10 isn't all about a guy earning a spot. I think Carwin could beat the rest of my top 10. Just like my #2 guy can beat my #8. Purley my opinion!

I meant Carwin could beat the rest of # 3 to #10 on my list. Not Fedor or Brock.

1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Cain
5. Santos
6. Carwin
7. Nog
8. Werdum
9. Rogers
10. Antonio Silva? (sorry I am not putting the roids crew in my top 10 of anything)

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Cain
5. Santos
6. Carwin
7. Nog
8. Werdum
9. Rogers
10. Antonio Silva? (sorry I am not putting the roids crew in my top 10 of anything)

Bigfoot was busted for roids also.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Cain
5. Santos
6. Carwin
7. Nog
8. Werdum
9. Rogers
10. Antonio Silva? (sorry I am not putting the roids crew in my top 10 of anything)

not a good sign when we dont want to count steroid users in the top 10 and we end up picking a roider to fill in for the better known roiders

Ninja\Rua/Fan wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

1. Fedor
2. Lesnar
3. Mir
4. Cain
5. Santos
6. Carwin
7. Nog
8. Werdum
9. Rogers
10. Antonio Silva? (sorry I am not putting the roids crew in my top 10 of anything)

Bigfoot was busted for roids also.

While Overeem is only suspected. As is Mir imo. And Brock is a pretty good candidate, at least at some point.

Stop with the roid talk it does not improve your skill Big foot is still a lower level talent. Overeem still has no chin. And Mir had great skills before he gained any mass.

Well take him off Ninja and replace him with Struve for all I care. Because after the first nine, there really isn't much depth to the HW division. Not like LHW or LW at least. As for "suspected" roids users? I don't count them until they are busted. Example: I do not acknowledge Barry Bond's, Sammy Sosa's or Mark McGwire's single-season HR record. There is Mickey Mantle, then the Babe. I can't believe I referenced baseball at Ninja's place.