What current WW would give GSP the most problems?

I think Shields get clowned by GSP, and Diaz i dont even deserves to be in the Octagon with him. However I do think with Kos on the roll he seems to be on lately, he might give GSP the best fight.

But i still think GSP whoops all there asses.

Maybe they can get a handicapped match going.

Ugh, now everyone thinks Nick would give GSP trouble? I'll comeback when everyone regains their common sense.

I think Penn gassing at 170 had a lot to do with him having to grapple with guys bigger than him.

Koscheck would pose the most trouble from that list.

Nick Diaz would be second to last right above Hardy. His wrestling is pretty mediocre and his style of punches of bunches won't work at all against GSP. Georges is a terrible matchup for him.

Had to go with BJ because, out of all the fighters on the list, Penn is still the best. But, as for current welterweights, I'd have to choose Koscheck.

tolivendiewithLA wrote:

Ugh, now everyone thinks Nick would give GSP trouble? I'll comeback when everyone regains their common sense.

Only 3 out of 18 right now have picked Nick. The question only ask who would give him the MOST problems. It doesn't ask you to pick out the guy that can beat GSP. The question is just to see who you think would make GSP work the hardest, who can give him the most respectable fight. Clearly most people do not believe any WW currently stands a chance to actually win. You don't have to give the guy a shot of winning, just the guy that gives him the best fight. I think people are having problems separating the two.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Bigs03 wrote:

I picked other because no one on this list poses much of a threat to GSP. The only way GSP gets a real challenge is by moving up.

Then who is your other at WW? So no on on the list can make him sweat at all? No one pushes him any harder then the rest? No one is saying your pick has to win or even come close. Just simply who would make him work the hardest for the win.

If I had to choose I would go with Kos, but again, none of those guys poses much of a threat at all. He's that much better than the rest at 170. He's absolutely laid waste to the top guys in the division, I see no reason that would change anytime soon. Nick Diaz has looked very good lately but the competition he's looked good against is nothing compared to the competition GSP has faced over the past few years. Give GSP the same competition that Nick has had and he runs roughshod over them. Give Nick the same competition GSP has faced and he most likely has multiple losses. Their level of competition really isn't even comparable.

Bigs... I think most people would agree with that. However that is why the question is phrased the way it is. It doesn't ask who could beat GSP but rather who would be his toughest test. Now he may be better then his next closest competitor by a large margin but that really doesn't matter for this question. I was going to just ask who is the #2 WW in the world? But I don't think that answer necessarily gives you the biggest test for GSP because of styles and whatnot. Just curious to what everyone thought. I mean GSP has to fight someone right? We can't just not give anyone because he is that much better.

OUSOONERSOU wrote:

Bigs... I think most people would agree with that. However that is why the question is phrased the way it is. It doesn't ask who could beat GSP but rather who would be his toughest test. Now he may be better then his next closest competitor by a large margin but that really doesn't matter for this question. I was going to just ask who is the #2 WW in the world? But I don't think that answer necessarily gives you the biggest test for GSP because of styles and whatnot. Just curious to what everyone thought. I mean GSP has to fight someone right? We can't just not give anyone because he is that much better.

And that is where the move to MW comes in.

Wow there are some thick heads in here LOL at OUSOONERSOU having to explain it over and over.

i went with Nick Diaz. GSP has already smashed Alves, Fitch, and Penn. Koscheck has a shot, but i think Nick Diaz with his length, unorthodox striking, and bjj skills would have the best shot at giving him a tough fight. Before people start getting they're panties in a bunch, i will say that GSP would beat Nick Diaz as well as everyone on this list. But the question was who do you think could give him problems. IMO stylistically Nick could cause some problems for Georges, but ultimatley i think GSP would ware him down with his wrestling and either GnP him or win by decision.

oggy420 wrote:

i went with Nick Diaz. .

Shocker lol

haha i know

Nick Diaz sort of this years Carlos Condit. Remember when he would have been on this list?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Nick Diaz sort of this years Carlos Condit. Remember when he would have been on this list?

That's the problem with Diaz also. The level of competition Condit was fighting in the WEC is nothing compared to what GSP faces regularly in the UFC. Same with Nick, the level of competition is nowhere close. Nick could come to the UFC and never even earn a shot at GSP because I think there are multiple guys on Sooners list that could and would beat Nick Diaz. GSP is simply on another level and Nick would have a lot of work to do to warrant getting a shot at GSP if he came to the UFC.

It's weird that Jon Fitch, the guy who is almost a unanimous number 2 in the WW division doesn't have a single vote. But that's just a testament to his lack of offensive skills. He's easily the toughest guy, and would probably be the hardest for GSP to finish, but he just doesn't have what it takes. As for my vote, I would put it on Hazelett now that I think about it. I clicked on Hardy, but that was before I had thought about how great and creative a grappler Hazelett is.

Nothing slows creativity like being flat on your back eating elbow after elbow after being half concussed by a superman punch that landed before you even realized it was being thrown.

Chorky, you have a good point on Fitch, but he hasn't looked the same since his last ass whipping by GSP. But Hazlett? Didn't he just get his ass kicked by Daley? Great grappler? Maybe. But you are not a great grappler, when you now think you want to be a striker.

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Chorky, you have a good point on Fitch, but he hasn't looked the same since his last ass whipping by GSP. But Hazlett? Didn't he just get his ass kicked by Daley? Great grappler? Maybe. But you are not a great grappler, when you now think you want to be a striker.

I think if Hazelett could take a mulligan on his fight with Daley he would rethink that horrible gameplan. He should've been immediately trying to take the fight to the ground. I don't know what he was thinking but whoever made that gameplan for him should be fired. Hazelett was way overmatched standing in that fight yet he stood straight up and let Daley tee off on his face. Stupid.

Dustin Hazlett would get mauled in any phase of the game by GSP.

Bigs03 wrote:

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Chorky, you have a good point on Fitch, but he hasn't looked the same since his last ass whipping by GSP. But Hazlett? Didn't he just get his ass kicked by Daley? Great grappler? Maybe. But you are not a great grappler, when you now think you want to be a striker.

I think if Hazelett could take a mulligan on his fight with Daley he would rethink that horrible gameplan. He should've been immediately trying to take the fight to the ground. I don't know what he was thinking but whoever made that gameplan for him should be fired. Hazelett was way overmatched standing in that fight yet he stood straight up and let Daley tee off on his face. Stupid.

+1

i went kos, I think diaz 2nd and shields 3rd

Andrew the Raider King wrote:

Chorky, you have a good point on Fitch, but he hasn't looked the same since his last ass whipping by GSP. But Hazlett? Didn't he just get his ass kicked by Daley? Great grappler? Maybe. But you are not a great grappler, when you now think you want to be a striker.

Well, the question, as has been pointed out many times is who would give GSP the most problems. I happen to think Hazelett's creative yet technical grappling could give him some problems. I'm not saying Hazelett's even close to being good enough to win the fight, but if I had to imagine a way to give GSP problems, Dustin's got the only thing I can imagine. I'd compare it to Demian Maia vs. Anderson. Do I think Maia would win? No. But I can see how he could pose more of a threat to him than any standup fighter. Slick grappling is something that very few people have, and it's a tool that can give anybody problems if a fight ends up on the ground.

Good point