Hendo = GOAT?

Quality of wins:

Henderson beat 10 big-show champions: Carlos Newton, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Murilo Bustamante, Kazuo Misaki, Vitor Belfort, Wanderlei Silva, Rich Franklin, Rafael Cavalcante, Fedor Emelianenko and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua. Comparatively, Anderson Silva, has wins over six champions.

Quality of losses:

Of Henderson's eight losses, only Ricardo Arona and Antonio Rogerio Nogueira have not held notable titles. Henderson also holds victories over three (Misaki, Wanderlei and Big Nog) of the opponents who defeated him.

None of the four fighters to best Anderson Silva wore a significant championship belt in his career.

The minuses:

The hang-up in calling Henderson the greatest all-time, is a March 2008 second-round rear-naked-choke defeat to Anderson Silva. Silva's 14-0 run through the UFC is a defining streak of longevity that has always eluded Henderson. After starting his career 9-0, Henderson's win column is almost entirely comprised of three- and four-fight win streaks, interrupted by one of eight career losses.

Henderson is 1-3 in his most recent title bouts. He fell to light-heavyweight champ "Rampage" via unanimous decision in September 2007, and tapped out to Anderson Silva six months later. He left the octagon for Strikeforce, where he was upset by middleweight champion Jake Shields.

The big plus:

Where Henderson surpasses Silva is in his divisional jumping. The significance in jumping up two weight classes to best the two greatest heavyweights of the generation Fedor Emelianenko and Big Nog) is a feat that cannot be understated.

Like Henderson, Silva has been successful in three weight classes, but with much less frequency.

The bottom line:

If Henderson stops Jones' ferocious title run comprised of former titleholders, there may be little controversy in calling him the greatest ever.


http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/400347/Is-Dan-Henderson-the-greatest-fighter-of-all-time/

If Hendo can somehow pull it off against Jones he would definitely have a case especially when factoring in his age.

We didn't even vote him the GOAT at LHW
https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/t4574p75-top-10-light-heayweights-of-all-time?highlight=time

https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/t4147-who-is-the-greatest-mma-fighter-all-time?highlight=time
Hendo didn't even make the poll, ouch.

That's because some of his accomplishments happened outside of the light heavyweight division. He beat Fedor in a Heavyweight bout, Minotauro in a Heavyweight bout, Gono and Misaki in Middleweight bouts. Holding a title in two different weight classes at the same time, etc etc etc. Not to mention he just put on possibly the best fight of all time a few months ago against Shogun and while many people(including Myself) scored it differently than the judges did that night the fact remains that fight lived up to the hype.

Ludo wrote:

That's because some of his accomplishments happened outside of the light heavyweight division. He beat Fedor in a Heavyweight bout, Minotauro in a Heavyweight bout, Gono and Misaki in Middleweight bouts. Holding a title in two different weight classes at the same time, etc etc etc. Not to mention he just put on possibly the best fight of all time a few months ago against Shogun and while many people(including Myself) scored it differently than the judges did that night the fact remains that fight lived up to the hype.

I know, I just wanted to be a dick and post some links. It makes Farmer happy.

Then carry on, soldier.

https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/t14530-rashad-evans-the-goat?highlight=goat
Rashad Evans? LOL

If he beats Jones, yes. If he would have beat Prime Rampage or Anderson I would have him GOAT right now.

Not even close. Too many losses.

freakzilla wrote:

Not even close. Too many losses.

He's 29-8... But just look at who some of those losses are to:

Wanderlei Silva during his prime, and a decision loss at that(who he beat two times following this loss)
Minotauro Nogueira by Submission(who he split a series with)
Minotoro by Submission
Prime Rampage Jackson
Anderson Silva
Jake Shields during Shields' run of 5 undefeated years

The only two losses in Henderson's career that come as a surprise are Arona(not THAT much of a surprise), and Misaki.

But forget the losses for a moment. Who else has a win column like Hendo does? Who else knocked out Fedor, went to war with Shogun, knocked out Wanderlei, and holds wins over Vitor, Gono, Chonan, Minotauro, Ninja Rua, and Carlos Newton?

Then again why am I even bothering to explain this to you? You hate Hendo and will say whatever you can to make it clear you'll give him nothing for his accomplishments.

Those losses show that he isn't the GOAT.

freakzilla wrote:

Those losses show that he isn't the GOAT.

So which one of those 8 guys is the GOAT?

If he KO's Jones he'd be the Baphomet for sure.

https://ninjasplace.forumotion.net/t14360-where-does-hendo-rank-all-time?highlight=rank
Boom, the best reference yet.

Hey does anybody remember this?






It really reminds me a lot of this





Not sure if this is even appropriate