Melendez vs. Thomson III, Feijao vs. Kyle likely for May 19th

Hopefully Kyle doesn't pull out

They were trying hard to make Pettis vs Gilbert happen, but once Pettis got injured they jut scrapped the idea.

Where the fuck is Gegard?

Buying sf has been worse more than better for mma so far.

GDPofDRC wrote:

Buying sf has been worse more than better for mma so far.

We got/get Hendo v Jones/Evans, Overeem vs Brock, Overeem vs JDS, Diaz vs Penn, and Diaz vs Condit out of the deal so far. All 5 fights bigger than anything in SF.

Farmer1906 wrote:

GDPofDRC wrote:

Buying sf has been worse more than better for mma so far.

We got/get Hendo v Jones/Evans, Overeem vs Brock, Overeem vs JDS, Diaz vs Penn, and Diaz vs Condit out of the deal so far. All 5 fights bigger than anything in SF.

SF was far better before they started gutting it. I'm with G, everything was better before Zuffa started fucking with it.

Strikeforce - 30 cards in the last two years, 2012's third SF event is scheduled for May. How is that better?

Zuffa was banking on the casual fan mentality of a couple of big fights being more important then a higher volume of quality fights. I like watching MMA so I'll take more quality fights over a couple of big moments any day.

Bigfoot, Reem, Werdum, Cormier, and Barnett in the UFC alone makes the buyout worth it.

I'd still like to just see a full merger

bobbitt15 wrote:

Bigfoot, Reem, Werdum, Cormier, and Barnett in the UFC alone makes the buyout worth it.

I'd still like to just see a full merger

I'd rather keep getting non PPV cards on Showtime. SF was almost can't miss with it's entertainment. I like watching fights. But I guess that isn't important to MMA fans?

The UFC is at the point where the ratio for every PPV compared to an FX/Fuel/Fox card is pretty small. I can live with that for seeing the best fighting under the same org.

Watching fights is cool and all, but when more than half the discussion revolves around: "Man, I'd like to see what this guy could do in the UFC" then it has its drawbacks

bobbitt15 wrote:

The UFC is at the point where the ratio for every PPV compared to an FX/Fuel/Fox card is pretty small. I can live with that for seeing the best fighting under the same org.

Watching fights is cool and all, but when more than half the discussion revolves around: "Man, I'd like to see what this guy could do in the UFC" then it has its drawbacks

That's the point, not even a handful of good fighters have crossed over and much more than a handful of good fighters are in the fight doldrums that is Zuffa Strikeforce.

I don't think its been that bad. Which guys have been really unactive since Zuffa? You have to factor in that the prelims are actually stacked since Zuffa has been running it which helps a lot

Mousasi I'd obviously like to see fighting but Kyle pulled out for the 10th time after they had that set up. I do want to see Romero and de Lima back in there though

There's over 30 guys there who I wan to see booked for fights.... waiting.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/28114/jz-cavalcante-vs-isaac-vallie-flagg-added-to-strikeforce-grand-prix-finale.mma
A lightweight matchup between Strikeforce vets Gesias "JZ" Cavalcante (16-4-1 MMA, 1-1 SF) and Isaac Vallie-Flagg (12-3-1 MMA, 1-0 SF) is set for the preliminary card of "Strikeforce: Heavyweight Grand Prix Finale."

The latest "Strikeforce: Heavyweight Grand Prix Finale" card includes:

Josh Barnett vs. Daniel Cormier (heavyweight grand-prix finale)
Champ Gilbert Melendez vs. Josh Thomson (for lightweight title)
Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante vs. Mike Kyle
Naj-Shon Burrell and Bobby Voelker
Gesias "JZ" Cavalcante vs. Isaac Vallie-Flagg
Virgil Zwicker vs. Guto Inocente
Billy Evangelista vs. James Terry
Nate Marquardt vs. Tyron Woodley*
Derrick Mehmen vs. Gian Villante*

http://www.mmamania.com/2012/4/10/2939410/gilbert-melendez-ufc-mma-strikeforce-big-name-josh-thompson-call-out

Quote :

"Dude, probably the females (will be in the UFC first) the way things are looking right now. That's not even nice. I was hoping for something big. I was hoping I would get a higher profile person from the UFC, something to help my stock go up. But you know what, I'm going to try and make a statement with Thomson and I am going to show him there is a big difference between the guy he fought in 2006, 2009 and now 2012. I really want to display my skills so I am going to get pumped for this."

When asked what it would take to get Zuffa to bend a little bit and send him some 155-pound sharks from the UFC his way, "El Nino" says he is trying, but he doesn't see the same eagerness from those Lightweights:

Quote :

"You're asking the wrong guy bro, you know what I mean? I want to make it happen, I'm asking for it, I don't hear them really asking for me. I don't know, it's tough; it's a tough situation for everybody."

OU wrote:

http://www.mmamania.com/2012/4/10/2939410/gilbert-melendez-ufc-mma-strikeforce-big-name-josh-thompson-call-out

Quote :

"Dude, probably the females (will be in the UFC first) the way things are looking right now. That's not even nice. I was hoping for something big. I was hoping I would get a higher profile person from the UFC, something to help my stock go up. But you know what, I'm going to try and make a statement with Thomson and I am going to show him there is a big difference between the guy he fought in 2006, 2009 and now 2012. I really want to display my skills so I am going to get pumped for this."

When asked what it would take to get Zuffa to bend a little bit and send him some 155-pound sharks from the UFC his way, "El Nino" says he is trying, but he doesn't see the same eagerness from those Lightweights:

Quote :

"You're asking the wrong guy bro, you know what I mean? I want to make it happen, I'm asking for it, I don't hear them really asking for me. I don't know, it's tough; it's a tough situation for everybody."

Why would he see the eagerness? They know the undercard of a UFC fight or a fight on FX is bigger than headlining Strikeforce. They know people associate MMA=UFC. Gil needs to hurry up and finish his deal so he can sign with the UFC.

Yeah I was kind of thinking the same thing. Why would one of the higher profile guys in the UFC be eager to jump over to SF to challenge Gil? I guess I could see someone like Kenny Florian, since he won't be getting another title shot...ever. He would have to hope for one of the guys ranked between 5-10 in the UFC to make the jump. Because I don't see the guys "in the mix" crossing over for such a difficult fight. Maybe someone like BJ Penn who is probably only interested in big time matchups.

OU wrote:

Yeah I was kind of thinking the same thing. Why would one of the higher profile guys in the UFC be eager to jump over to SF to challenge Gil? I guess I could see someone like Kenny Florian, since he won't be getting another title shot...ever. He would have to hope for one of the guys ranked between 5-10 in the UFC to make the jump. Because I don't see the guys "in the mix" crossing over for such a difficult fight. Maybe someone like BJ Penn who is probably only interested in big time matchups.

I don't know if Gil expects those guys to be eager, I think he is just making the observation that while he would love to fight some of the UFC guys, those guys do not want to make the move to SF.

Gil seems to be the guy who has been left out in the cold in the merger. And it came at a bad time considering his self imposed layoff prior to the buyout.

captain organic wrote:

OU wrote:

Yeah I was kind of thinking the same thing. Why would one of the higher profile guys in the UFC be eager to jump over to SF to challenge Gil? I guess I could see someone like Kenny Florian, since he won't be getting another title shot...ever. He would have to hope for one of the guys ranked between 5-10 in the UFC to make the jump. Because I don't see the guys "in the mix" crossing over for such a difficult fight. Maybe someone like BJ Penn who is probably only interested in big time matchups.

I don't know if Gil expects those guys to be eager, I think he is just making the observation that while he would love to fight some of the UFC guys, those guys do not want to make the move to SF.

Gil seems to be the guy who has been left out in the cold in the merger. And it came at a bad time considering his self imposed layoff prior to the buyout.

There are plenty of guys stuck in SF that aren't getting fights. Gil is just the highest ranked of the bunch.

He's getting fights, just not the ones he wants. Its his contract though

bobbitt15 wrote:

He's getting fights, just not the ones he wants. Its his contract though

Other guys had contracts.

OU wrote:

captain organic wrote:

OU wrote:

Yeah I was kind of thinking the same thing. Why would one of the higher profile guys in the UFC be eager to jump over to SF to challenge Gil? I guess I could see someone like Kenny Florian, since he won't be getting another title shot...ever. He would have to hope for one of the guys ranked between 5-10 in the UFC to make the jump. Because I don't see the guys "in the mix" crossing over for such a difficult fight. Maybe someone like BJ Penn who is probably only interested in big time matchups.

I don't know if Gil expects those guys to be eager, I think he is just making the observation that while he would love to fight some of the UFC guys, those guys do not want to make the move to SF.

Gil seems to be the guy who has been left out in the cold in the merger. And it came at a bad time considering his self imposed layoff prior to the buyout.

There are plenty of guys stuck in SF that aren't getting fights. Gil is just the highest ranked of the bunch.

Gil prob deserved the jump more then any SF fighter. And hasn't gotten it. He's in a different class then any of the other SF guys still stuck there.

Given Thomsons last performance I really hope Gil goes in there and pummels him.

Zuffa is really taking SF to the next level. Check out this supa high tek interwebz page.
http://www.strikeforce.com/

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/4/11/2941745/check-out-strikeforces-website

OU wrote:

Zuffa is really taking SF to the next level. Check out this supa high tek interwebz page.
http://www.strikeforce.com/

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/4/11/2941745/check-out-strikeforces-website

Business as usual. SF is not dead, stronger and better than ever.