Bisping

timthebim wrote:

Wolfgangsta wrote:

Bisping is top ten inside the UFC but will never have a good enough chin to power ratio to survive fight in fight out with his style.

I agree with this but i do feel he is good enough to jump up and take one of the top guys on any given night he just cant beat them consistantly.

At Lightheavy ?? I can't really see Mike having success there even against the likes of Forrest and Tito.

freakzilla316ftw wrote:

He looks too small at Middleweight. He'd have much more power at Light-Heavyweight.

Problem with that is every1 else has more power there also. His chin cant stand up at LHW.

Didn't the Hamill and Evans fights show why Bisping shouldn't be at Light Heavy.

He was in the Evans fight though.

timthebim wrote:

He was in the Evans fight though.

Mike done decent in that fight, after that fight Rashad went on to knockout Lidell and Forrest.

Yeah so that fight was the start of Rashads run at the title.

I don't stack him up with those guys at all. He's a middle of the pack fighter who looks great against other middle of the pack fighters not quite closer to being a legit gatekeeper as him, such as Akiyama, Miller and Kang.

UFC might actually give this a guy a title shot one day after beating somebody like Akiyama...and shit is gonna get ugly.

He looked good tonight but it's nothing we've never seen from him before, only to fight Rashad, Hendo and Wandy and get controlled, knocked out cold and outclassed respectively.

Sorry, still not on the Bisping wagon and never was on the Akiyama wagon to be truly impressed with Bispings win.

timthebim wrote:

I try to not like Bisping but I love watching him fight. He is an action guy who trys to finish fights but he just has this chin problem in big fights.

I wouldn't call it a chin problem so much as a "holy fuck these guys hit hard" problem. Both times he got knocked around/out were against two guys who made themselves legends of the sport with toughness and heavy hands.

I agree Ludo but when I say chin problems I mean that he leaves his chin out in open and backs up with it high in the air.

That much I agree with. He was doing it early on last night even. But towards the end of the fight he finally stopped circling to his left and thats when he was really starting to pour it on. That is probably because Akiyama was about as mobile a scarecrow though.

Yeah Sexyama looked pretty gassed by the middle of the 2nd into the third round.

Akiyama really needs to get in shape or he's going to be without a job in the UFC very soon if not already. I wouldn't be surprised to see him cut after three straight losses.

Im with u 3 loses and Sexyama maybe out of a gig.

Sexy has won FOTN all 3 of his bouts so far and is still an Asian star I'm sure. I don't think he's in much danger. I'd like to see a drop to WW though and it sounds like Dana would too

the division isn't the issue so much as him not being in shape. It won't matter if he's 185 or 155 if he can't keep his hands up after 7 and a half minutes of fighting.

Good point. All they talked about is how he learned from the Leben fight and after the 1st round he looked exactly the same.

LudoCain wrote:

timthebim wrote:

I try to not like Bisping but I love watching him fight. He is an action guy who trys to finish fights but he just has this chin problem in big fights.

I wouldn't call it a chin problem so much as a "holy fuck these guys hit hard" problem. Both times he got knocked around/out were against two guys who made themselves legends of the sport with toughness and heavy hands.

Aki, not known for his power, wobbled him early, as did Kang.

Still recovering from the Hendo shot imo, but he works his way through the fog on most occasions.

He has two straight losses. Not three.

captain organic wrote:

LudoCain wrote:

timthebim wrote:

I try to not like Bisping but I love watching him fight. He is an action guy who trys to finish fights but he just has this chin problem in big fights.

I wouldn't call it a chin problem so much as a "holy fuck these guys hit hard" problem. Both times he got knocked around/out were against two guys who made themselves legends of the sport with toughness and heavy hands.

Aki, not known for his power, wobbled him early, as did Kang.

Still recovering from the Hendo shot imo, but he works his way through the fog on most occasions.

I disagree here. Akiyama has one punch power, and he has demonstrated it several times in his career. He absolutely flattened Kang. Kang has shown heavy enough hands in several bouts as well.

Wolfgangsta wrote:

He has two straight losses. Not three.

We know Wolf we are talking about if he loses his next fight.

He's definitely in a must win situation at this point. Kendall Grove?

Wolfgangsta wrote:

He's definitely in a must win situation at this point. Kendall Grove?

If he loses to Maia that would make sense

Oh I forgot that fight was scheduled. Who else is available.

Dollaway is the only person I can really think of

That's actually a better fight anyway.