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Cu Bu Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : AXE MURDERER Posts : 3648 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Norman oklahoma
| Subject: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:27 am | |
| Huge Axe Murderer fan here but have to say bisping performed well and was humble afterwards. I think he is good for the UFC, he can play a heel and be competitive at 185. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:49 am | |
| Yeah I was impressed with Bisping and thought he put on a helleva fight with Wandy. The fact is he had a shot at winning the fight if he would have pulled out the 3rd round in my opion. | |
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NoRegret Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone that comes to FIGHT! Posts : 4548 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 34 Location : The Dirty 330- Ohio
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:06 pm | |
| I wasnt impressed with Bisping so much as I was unimpressed by Wandy.
Wandy's speed has diminished more and more with each fight he gets.
Im still a pretty firm believer that Bisping doesnt have a good chin. He's been rocked and should have been knocked out in his last three fights...
Hendo DID knock him out...Kang had Bisping rocked but didnt take advantage because Kang is a scrub...Wandy had Bisping rocked and had he had another 5 seconds in the round, he would have scored a knockout.
That was the one and ONLY real time in the fight that Wandy just charged in guns blazing and throwing flurries like that and he rocked Bisping.
I really question Bisping beating any legit contenders at 185. | |
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Farmer1906 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Griffin, Franklin, Hendo, Sonnen, Wand, Lawler, Belfort, Pettis, Aldo, Mousasi Posts : 10222 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:43 pm | |
| Your unimpressed with Wand even though he almost finished Bisping 3 times? There is absolutely no doubt in my mind the Wand finishes Bisping with a few more seconds in the 2nd and 3rd round. Half the bar didn't realize the bell rang and it wasn't a stoppage for Wand. He destroyed Bisping when he overwhelmed him, but he didn't get stupid and et caught like he did vs Rampage.
I came away impressed. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:16 pm | |
| Kang is a scrub, Bisping is trash, Wanderlei is garbage.
Takes a lot to impress noregret. | |
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timthebim Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : BJ PENN, JOSH KOSCHECK, SPIDER Posts : 16809 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 42 Location : Detroit
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:21 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Kang is a scrub, Bisping is trash, Wanderlei is garbage.
Takes a lot to impress noregret. LOL thats funny but Im with Farmer i thought at the end of the third that the ref jumped in to stop the fight. Wandy was clearly impressive to me although I thought Bisping fought a good fight also. Bisping just isnt as good as Wandy. | |
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Cu Bu Black Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : AXE MURDERER Posts : 3648 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : Norman oklahoma
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:51 pm | |
| seriously if wand threw some from the hip tight shots he could set up flurries with leg kicks and take out lots of 85ers | |
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muayjitsu Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Wand, Thiago Alves, BJ Penn, Cain, Vitor, Tito, SHOGUN Posts : 1300 Join date : 2009-07-18 Age : 39 Location : TEJAS
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:17 pm | |
| Put Bisping VS Belcher and I would pick Belcher. | |
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NoRegret Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone that comes to FIGHT! Posts : 4548 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 34 Location : The Dirty 330- Ohio
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:37 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- Kang is a scrub, Bisping is trash, Wanderlei is garbage.
Takes a lot to impress noregret. Kang IS a scrub. Where did I say Bisping was trash and where did I say Wanderlei was garbage? I said Bisping has no chin and Wanderlei didnt really impress me. He should have done what he did in the final 20 seconds of round 3 way earlier in the fight. Wandy just looked slow to me. I never said he didnt almost finish Bisping...but almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. Neither fighter was overly impressive. And I am surprised by you wolfy, you of all people..a guy who supposedly "breaks down fights"...and thought either man was impressive? REALLY?!
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NoRegret Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone that comes to FIGHT! Posts : 4548 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 34 Location : The Dirty 330- Ohio
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:38 pm | |
| Also Wolfy...if im so SUPER hard to impress then WHY did I give the PPV such a good rating in the thread I made?
Hmmm...yep...I am so hard on these things. | |
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boomer sooner Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, since way back Posts : 1191 Join date : 2009-09-30 Age : 43 Location : Flint, MI
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:39 pm | |
| How about Belcher vs. Wand instead. THat would be a war! Still, it looks like Wand will get Akiyama probably in some UFC Japan event. | |
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muayjitsu Purple Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Wand, Thiago Alves, BJ Penn, Cain, Vitor, Tito, SHOGUN Posts : 1300 Join date : 2009-07-18 Age : 39 Location : TEJAS
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:45 pm | |
| - boomer sooner wrote:
- How about Belcher vs. Wand instead. THat would be a war! Still, it looks like Wand will get Akiyama probably in some UFC Japan event.
I just said that LOL! | |
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bobbitt15 Gold Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Chael Sonnen, Michael Chandler, Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Condit Posts : 14830 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 35 Location : Cincinnati
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:47 pm | |
| Wand-Akiyama is definitely the next fight. Akiyama "beat" Belcher in his last fight anyway | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:48 pm | |
| I was impressed but blood lusting for that finish that never came. Wand looked good almost great, but this 185 thing is going to be tough. Bisping has never sniffed top ten talent anywhere other then the end of Hendo and Wands glove, so there should be tougher fights to come. | |
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LA Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Lyoto Machida, BJ Penn, Anderson Silva, Jose Aldo Posts : 15046 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 37 Location : Boston, Mass and Los Angeles, California
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:31 pm | |
| Bisping is the kind of fighter that can dominate mid level guys, but needs to win by decision if he's gonna beat any top guys, which I doubt he can. | |
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NoRegret Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone that comes to FIGHT! Posts : 4548 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 34 Location : The Dirty 330- Ohio
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:33 pm | |
| - tolivendiewithLA wrote:
- Bisping is the kind of fighter that can dominate mid level guys, but needs to win by decision if he's gonna beat any top guys, which I doubt he can.
I am glad we see eye to eye on that. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:40 pm | |
| Jesus Noregret calm down, I wasn't seriously attacking you or your opinion, I was just making a jest, lower your weapon and take your status down from defcon 5 please. You weren't kidding when you said you have an issue with dealing with percieved attacks.
Don't take this the wrong way, but when you were real young did you get picked on a lot?
Anyway.
Bisping is a great fighter. I am not sure Rich Franklin would beat him. He is still improving all the time as well. His best days are still ahead of him. Two of his three losses are close decision losses to Wanderlei Silva and Rashad Evans. I think he is right in the thick of things at MW in the UFC, talent wise.
Kang is far from a "scrub", he is just inconsistant and loses fights he should win. | |
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NoRegret Red Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Anyone that comes to FIGHT! Posts : 4548 Join date : 2009-07-15 Age : 34 Location : The Dirty 330- Ohio
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:43 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way, but when you were real young did you get picked on a lot? Not that this is part of the thread...but yes, I was. I was a minority in my neighborhood and schools growing up, and was pretty skinny most my life...soooo yeah. | |
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GDPofDRC Administrator
Favorite Fighter(s) : Shogun, Fedor, Wand, Saku, Hendo, BJ, Bas, Cain, Mike Vallely Posts : 21274 Join date : 2009-08-04 Age : 105 Location : Fresyes, CA
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:53 pm | |
| I think if Wand hadn't almost kicked Bisping in the head at the end of that round and instead lay down some leather he might of got the tko. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:17 pm | |
| I think Bisping is mediocre and didnt learn to much from Hendo
yall notice he kept circling into Wandys right | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:19 pm | |
| No he didn't. He did a good job avoiding the big right until the last five seconds. He had really improved his footwork, and was doing pretty decent, but there isn't much you can do against a murderer.
Bisping is a good fighter. | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:20 pm | |
| Notice this deathblow only came out of Wandy's clinch, against the fence. | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:23 pm | |
| - Wolfgangsta wrote:
- No he didn't. He did a good job avoiding the big right until the last five seconds. He had really improved his footwork, and was doing pretty decent, but there isn't much you can do against a murderer.
Bisping is a good fighter. your wrong. He was circling to his left all night, didnt get caught but he was circling left ALOT | |
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Wolfgangsta Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Conor McGregor, Machida, Jon Jones, Ronda Rousey Posts : 18955 Join date : 2009-07-15 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:26 pm | |
| He was circling left and right both ways. They even mentioned his improved footwork at one point during the broadcast. Because he was going left, in addition to going right, does not mean he was putting himself in danger or is a bad fighter. He was also backing out more as he circled. What is he supposed to do, circle right the whole time and eat a left hand? | |
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Birdofthad Platinum Belt
Favorite Fighter(s) : Ken shamrock, Frank Shamrock, Guy Mezger, Pete Williams, you get it Lions Den Posts : 17542 Join date : 2009-07-19 Age : 37 Location : D Town
| Subject: Re: Bisping Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:29 pm | |
| o hes supposed to learn from fights and when your big mistake in the Knockout your known for was circling right into the right hand I hope you would fucking improve on that. Instead he was circling to Wandys right hand numerous times. Granted he didnt get knocked out from this mistake this time, its definately something he needs to wor on. Sorry Bisping isnt upper echelon fighter IMO. Also lets keep in mind where Wandys at in his career | |
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