Pacman vs Margo not a farce afterall

soonermark890 wrote:

Ali wrote:

gomez1012 wrote:

Extra weight? Tony's been a career WW and not done well when he moved up to 147, add the beat downs he received against Cotto and Mosley, I think he's at his end

Having zero defense will lead to Pac having the chance to do more damage early and often

Tony struggled at Jr Middleweight when he faced men the same size as him, Manny's 5'6 frame isn't suitable for 150lb +. Margarito was able to walk through Cotto's shots and smile at him, I can't see Manny's power doing the same damage as Mosley, his best chance is to use his speed and box to a decision, but as we've seen lately Manny's been content to allow fighters to test his chin at the higher weights.

Why do you say that? Mosley hit Cotto and Cotto didnt fold but when Manny hit him he did. I am not saying that Manny has more power than Shane. I will say that Margo's chin is not the same as it use to be and Manny will KO him within 7 rounds.

1) Shane Mosley has knocked out Jr Middleweights, Manny's only stopped Welterweights so far.
2) Miguel Cotto boxed Mosley in his prime, he hadn't received that brutal Margarito beating.
3) I've seen no evidence to suggest Magrarito's chin isn't strong enough to withstand Pac's shots, it took Shane multiple rounds to break Tony down and stop him.

Ali wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Ali wrote:

gomez1012 wrote:

Extra weight? Tony's been a career WW and not done well when he moved up to 147, add the beat downs he received against Cotto and Mosley, I think he's at his end

Having zero defense will lead to Pac having the chance to do more damage early and often

Tony struggled at Jr Middleweight when he faced men the same size as him, Manny's 5'6 frame isn't suitable for 150lb +. Margarito was able to walk through Cotto's shots and smile at him, I can't see Manny's power doing the same damage as Mosley, his best chance is to use his speed and box to a decision, but as we've seen lately Manny's been content to allow fighters to test his chin at the higher weights.

Why do you say that? Mosley hit Cotto and Cotto didnt fold but when Manny hit him he did. I am not saying that Manny has more power than Shane. I will say that Margo's chin is not the same as it use to be and Manny will KO him within 7 rounds.

1) Shane Mosley has knocked out Jr Middleweights, Manny's only stopped Welterweights so far.
2) Miguel Cotto boxed Mosley in his prime, he hadn't received that brutal Margarito beating.
3) I've seen no evidence to suggest Magrarito's chin isn't strong enough to withstand Pac's shots, it took Shane multiple rounds to break Tony down and stop him.

Margo's chin is not the same. Remember he has taken a ton of beatings too.
To me Ali. Its the combination of a bunch of things that leads me to believe that Margo will be KO'd.
1. Manny is the fastest fighter Margo has seen.
2. He is also one of the hardest punchers that Margo has seen.
3. Margo is not the same fighter he once was.
4. Manny does not slow down
5. The combinations that Manny throws will allow him to land huge bombs early.

I see Manny shooting in and out hitting the slow Margo all night long and Margo never really being able to find Manny and he eventually goes night night around round 7 from the huge amout of punishment he took.

Ali wrote:

soonermark890 wrote:

Ali wrote:

gomez1012 wrote:

Extra weight? Tony's been a career WW and not done well when he moved up to 147, add the beat downs he received against Cotto and Mosley, I think he's at his end

Having zero defense will lead to Pac having the chance to do more damage early and often

Tony struggled at Jr Middleweight when he faced men the same size as him, Manny's 5'6 frame isn't suitable for 150lb +. Margarito was able to walk through Cotto's shots and smile at him, I can't see Manny's power doing the same damage as Mosley, his best chance is to use his speed and box to a decision, but as we've seen lately Manny's been content to allow fighters to test his chin at the higher weights.

Why do you say that? Mosley hit Cotto and Cotto didnt fold but when Manny hit him he did. I am not saying that Manny has more power than Shane. I will say that Margo's chin is not the same as it use to be and Manny will KO him within 7 rounds.

1) Shane Mosley has knocked out Jr Middleweights, Manny's only stopped Welterweights so far.
2) Miguel Cotto boxed Mosley in his prime, he hadn't received that brutal Margarito beating.
3) I've seen no evidence to suggest Magrarito's chin isn't strong enough to withstand Pac's shots, it took Shane multiple rounds to break Tony down and stop him.

MARGARITO'S CHIN- He took shots from Cintron (the frog landed some decent shots but Margo just smiled and came forward), Clottey, PW, Cintron (the frog landed some decent shots again but Margo just smiled and came forward), Cotto (hit Margarito with everything but the kitchen sink), and Mosley (who destroyed the chin).

It is simple-if you think Margarito has the chin of steel that stood up to everyone but Mosley, then you are giving Mosley a ton of credit. (some days I think like Ali).


There is a high likelihood that Margarito's chin has gone past its sell by date(alot of days I think Margo's punch resistance is gone or significantly lessened). You can't eat shots from Cintron, Clottey, PW, Cintron, Cotto, with your damn face. It isn't as he boxed the shit out of those guys. He won or lost fighting his way: eating shots to the face.


I neglected to go through the fights he went through before he faced the top competition at 147 (listed above).

Also- He is 32 years old and has been a professional since 1994. Guys who turn pro when they are 15 or 16 don't usually have careers that go very well into the 30s.

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

Diego408 wrote:

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

Pacquiao was going to be in for a tough fight with Diaz.

Pacquiao was going to get destroyed by the much bigger De la Hoya.

Pacquiao was going to get roughed up by Hatton who looked great against the speedy Malignaggi.

Pacquaiao was going to get KO'd by the stronger body attacks of Cotto.

Clottey who enters the ring at 170 would price to be too much for the undersized Pacquiao.

Heard it all before Jigga, Margarito IMO is shot and Pacman boxes circles around the slow footed Mexican.

Not so, as Pacquaio was the betting favorite in all those fights besides the DLH bout. Had people of known DLH would come in as a stick figure in the ring, no one would have gave him a chance. After seeing oscar was still 145 on fight night, I knew he was introuble.

Do you just disagree to be a fucking pain in the ass? These were arguments presented by people on the other board. You were there for those arguments. These are not my thoughts.

How am i being a pain in the ass? Pacquaio was the betting favorite in all but 1 fight. I do remember the arguements, but it was just a handful of people making them, not the majority of the public. I thought DLH and Cotto were gonna take those bouts, but the rest were easy to predict.

Diego408 wrote:

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

Diego408 wrote:

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

Pacquiao was going to be in for a tough fight with Diaz.

Pacquiao was going to get destroyed by the much bigger De la Hoya.

Pacquiao was going to get roughed up by Hatton who looked great against the speedy Malignaggi.

Pacquaiao was going to get KO'd by the stronger body attacks of Cotto.

Clottey who enters the ring at 170 would price to be too much for the undersized Pacquiao.

Heard it all before Jigga, Margarito IMO is shot and Pacman boxes circles around the slow footed Mexican.

Not so, as Pacquaio was the betting favorite in all those fights besides the DLH bout. Had people of known DLH would come in as a stick figure in the ring, no one would have gave him a chance. After seeing oscar was still 145 on fight night, I knew he was introuble.

Do you just disagree to be a fucking pain in the ass? These were arguments presented by people on the other board. You were there for those arguments. These are not my thoughts.

How am i being a pain in the ass? Pacquaio was the betting favorite in all but 1 fight. I do remember the arguements, but it was just a handful of people making them, not the majority of the public. I thought DLH and Cotto were gonna take those bouts, but the rest were easy to predict.

And the point I was making was that this sort of post is played out. Tired. Been done before. There will always be detractor and naysayers. Fact is Manny has looked better every yet people can't seem to accept that he is elite and special. He's gonna kill post cotto and shane Margarito. Its not going to be close.

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

Diego408 wrote:

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

Diego408 wrote:

hardcoreBEE24 wrote:

Pacquiao was going to be in for a tough fight with Diaz.

Pacquiao was going to get destroyed by the much bigger De la Hoya.

Pacquiao was going to get roughed up by Hatton who looked great against the speedy Malignaggi.

Pacquaiao was going to get KO'd by the stronger body attacks of Cotto.

Clottey who enters the ring at 170 would price to be too much for the undersized Pacquiao.

Heard it all before Jigga, Margarito IMO is shot and Pacman boxes circles around the slow footed Mexican.

Not so, as Pacquaio was the betting favorite in all those fights besides the DLH bout. Had people of known DLH would come in as a stick figure in the ring, no one would have gave him a chance. After seeing oscar was still 145 on fight night, I knew he was introuble.

Do you just disagree to be a fucking pain in the ass? These were arguments presented by people on the other board. You were there for those arguments. These are not my thoughts.

How am i being a pain in the ass? Pacquaio was the betting favorite in all but 1 fight. I do remember the arguements, but it was just a handful of people making them, not the majority of the public. I thought DLH and Cotto were gonna take those bouts, but the rest were easy to predict.

And the point I was making was that this sort of post is played out. Tired. Been done before. There will always be detractor and naysayers. Fact is Manny has looked better every yet people can't seem to accept that he is elite and special. He's gonna kill post cotto and shane Margarito. Its not going to be close.

and I agree, Pacquaio is not going to be in many relevant fights anymore and its the reason I dont ever talk about him much. Hes casing out his name with old fighters....... call me when hes fighting Floyd. Im anticipating Martinez vs Williams, if one fight in November should be on PPV it should be that one because both guys fight their asses off, taken the toughest of challenges and rightfully deserve every penny theyre making.

BTW I got Pacquaio beating Margarito by a wide UD (9-3 or 10-2)

I've read most of the comments on Pac - Margo. I've come to the conclusion that you guys are desperate for a fight. Pac's going to kill this mediocre piece of immoral shit. C'mon fellas. Tony's not even a fighter without the cement in the gloves.