Subject: Happy 70th John Lennon Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:10 pm
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:27 pm
He is dead. Sorry to share the bad news with you.
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:38 pm
Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:36 pm
bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
He is dead. Sorry to share the bad news with you.
Oh I had no idea. When did this happen? I just saw him in a concert with Elvis, Buddy Holly, Michael Jackson, and Easy E.
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:38 pm
Thomasdrrn09 wrote:
bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
He is dead. Sorry to share the bad news with you.
Oh I had no idea. When did this happen? I just saw him in a concert with Elvis, Buddy Holly, Michael Jackson, and Easy E.
I bet that was a helluva show.
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:52 am
You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the World will live as one
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:45 am
bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
Thomasdrrn09 wrote:
bigbeastcardinal12 wrote:
He is dead. Sorry to share the bad news with you.
Oh I had no idea. When did this happen? I just saw him in a concert with Elvis, Buddy Holly, Michael Jackson, and Easy E.
I bet that was a helluva show.
Was 2Pac there?
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:04 am
LA wrote:
You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the World will live as one
Probably the single dumbest set of lyrics ever put to paper. But at least it's accompanied by an awful score.
It's really too bad such a gifted artist is remembered for that crap. It'd be like remembering Muhammad Ali for his win over Jean Pierre Coopman.
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:06 pm
marbleheadmaui wrote:
LA wrote:
You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the World will live as one
Probably the single dumbest set of lyrics ever put to paper. But at least it's accompanied by an awful score.
It's really too bad such a gifted artist is remembered for that crap. It'd be like remembering Muhammad Ali for his win over Jean Pierre Coopman.
You're joking right? That's regarded as one of his best songs and very influential in music.
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:07 pm
who?
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:14 pm
LA wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
LA wrote:
You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the World will live as one
Probably the single dumbest set of lyrics ever put to paper. But at least it's accompanied by an awful score.
It's really too bad such a gifted artist is remembered for that crap. It'd be like remembering Muhammad Ali for his win over Jean Pierre Coopman.
You're joking right? That's regarded as one of his best songs and very influential in music.
A lot of people like the song Imagine but don't like the lyrics because of it's obvious communist message. I'm not saying thats why Marble does not like it but you'll see a lot of people crap on the lyrics because when somebody writes lyrics like that, ideals play a big factor on whether people will like it or not. I don't agree with the message of the song(atleast not all of it, i'm definetly not big on religion) but it's definetly one of my favorites because of it's melody and score. Lennon pretty much said and i paraphrase that the song would have infuriated most people because of it's anti-religion, atnti-capatilist, anti-government, anti-this and that message, especially at the time but it didnt because it was sugar coated with a great melody.
John Lennon was great. The Beatles are my favorite. John Lennon's solo stuff was very erratic. It has some of the best stuff i've ever heard(Instant Karma, Imagine, Jealous Guy, How Do You Sleep?) and some of the most pretentious garbage i've ever seen spewed out of an artist so great(see Two Virgins).
I know it's passed, but Happy B-Day.
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:21 pm
I read the song is crap and replied, the rest is common knowledge at this point, but it's still a great song.
I hate that vid of it when Yoko is just sitting next to him being..... Yoko
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:22 pm
LA wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
LA wrote:
You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the World will live as one
Probably the single dumbest set of lyrics ever put to paper. But at least it's accompanied by an awful score.
It's really too bad such a gifted artist is remembered for that crap. It'd be like remembering Muhammad Ali for his win over Jean Pierre Coopman.
You're joking right? That's regarded as one of his best songs and very influential in music.
Nope. It is absolutely awful. Now Norwegian Wood or a Day in the Life? Great stuff.
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:26 pm
LA wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
LA wrote:
You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the World will live as one
Probably the single dumbest set of lyrics ever put to paper. But at least it's accompanied by an awful score.
It's really too bad such a gifted artist is remembered for that crap. It'd be like remembering Muhammad Ali for his win over Jean Pierre Coopman.
You're joking right? That's regarded as one of his best songs and very influential in music.
By who? Rolling Stone? VH1? Beatles fans are two steps above Gaga fans on the intellectual continuum.
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:32 pm
You like Slayer.........
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:34 pm
marbleheadmaui wrote:
LA wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
LA wrote:
You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the World will live as one
Probably the single dumbest set of lyrics ever put to paper. But at least it's accompanied by an awful score.
It's really too bad such a gifted artist is remembered for that crap. It'd be like remembering Muhammad Ali for his win over Jean Pierre Coopman.
You're joking right? That's regarded as one of his best songs and very influential in music.
Nope. It is absolutely awful. Now Norwegian Wood or a Day in the Life? Great stuff.
Just gonna have to completely disagree with you then
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:35 pm
marbleheadmaui wrote:
LA wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
LA wrote:
You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the World will live as one
Probably the single dumbest set of lyrics ever put to paper. But at least it's accompanied by an awful score.
It's really too bad such a gifted artist is remembered for that crap. It'd be like remembering Muhammad Ali for his win over Jean Pierre Coopman.
You're joking right? That's regarded as one of his best songs and very influential in music.
Nope. It is not "absolutely" awful. Now Norwegian Wood or a Day in the Life? Great stuff.
FFY... Too harsh on Imagine, but spot on with the others...
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:43 pm
LA wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
LA wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
LA wrote:
You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the World will live as one
Probably the single dumbest set of lyrics ever put to paper. But at least it's accompanied by an awful score.
It's really too bad such a gifted artist is remembered for that crap. It'd be like remembering Muhammad Ali for his win over Jean Pierre Coopman.
You're joking right? That's regarded as one of his best songs and very influential in music.
Nope. It is absolutely awful. Now Norwegian Wood or a Day in the Life? Great stuff.
Just gonna have to completely disagree with you then
Understood. It's music. Like trying to determine the "best" flavor of ice cream. It's impossible. It is ALL taste. I mean when Muskrat Love gets to be a hit and something like Johnny 99 doesn't? What else can it be?
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:44 pm
LTFG wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
LA wrote:
marbleheadmaui wrote:
LA wrote:
You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one, I hope some day you'll join us, and the World will live as one
Probably the single dumbest set of lyrics ever put to paper. But at least it's accompanied by an awful score.
It's really too bad such a gifted artist is remembered for that crap. It'd be like remembering Muhammad Ali for his win over Jean Pierre Coopman.
You're joking right? That's regarded as one of his best songs and very influential in music.
Nope. It is not "absolutely" awful. Now Norwegian Wood or a Day in the Life? Great stuff.
FFY... Too harsh on Imagine, but spot on with the others...
IMPOSSIBLE to be too harsh on Imagine. It deserves to be boiled in oil
Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:21 pm
Yeah I am a huge Lennon fan but Imagine is his most overrated song. It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't talk about having no possessions while living in a multi million dollar NYC city apartment.
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:34 pm
Imagine is a stupid fairytale and one we base our society on.
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:39 pm
LA wrote:
You like Slayer.........
As someone who probably couldn't tell John Williams from Bach or Beethoven I wouldn't expect you to understand anything but lowest common denominator pop music, in all its guises. Slayer in the 80s made beautifully constructed symphonies of decay.
Here is a review from Hell Awaits worth reading ;
Quote :
Production: Representative of the production values of the time the soundstyling here captures the essence of guitars, drums, bass and then kicks the voice out over the top, this time with too much of a chilly overtone of echo.
Review: Fast and terrifying violent music fused from the alienated self-contrast of thrash and the accelerating rhythms of extreme speed and black metal, Slayer came hybrized but full of voice. From the clean-sung but entrenched, riot-shouted vocals of Tom Araya to the pugilistic network of respondent drumbeats upholding a harangue of ambient fast-strummed riffs and nervous, erratic, chaotic metaspoken lead guitar.
Noise-based as much of the guitar pyrocuneiform is, the power of Slayer's composition is to amplify a simple virus through breakdown into multiple variations of a core rhythm in architectural riffs built from fragmented scales and basic harmonic ideas to emphasize basic mathematical concepts behind the doomscience of lyrics and budding death metal aesthetic. Even the faster speed songs and the savage self-combative moments of thrash carry a complexity borrowed from the progressive rock gods of the previous generation and the metal masters who bestowed their creations with the complex metaphorical language of imagination.
Rhythmic emphasis comes entirely through guitars, which lead drums because the linear complexity tracking of the song moves fluidly through the variations of riffing which move, ambient, through patterns over the percussive components of the song, allowing drums to maintain greater simplicity and to unleash guitars to freedom of voicing over predictable rhythm upholding self-defined major components of each song. Slayer's composition is often called chromatic, meaning that it uses linear scales, but more appropriately it is nihilistic: a note or chord becomes the basis for invention of new recombinant pieces of information, creating a self-specialized evolutionary compositional space for the conception of each song.
Nihilism pervades also the virulent lyrics and the haphazard, almost careless method with which guitarists K. King and J. Hanneman drop into a solo and work it through some motions of noise. The core of this comes within the text of Slayer's obssession with the seat of control of violence and death, as well as from the alienated methodology of their major ancestors in hardcore and thrash. However nihilism is not their excuse, only their origin; without pretense they wrest beauty from the essential deconstruction of music, and from that beauty they create romantic epics of despair and oblivion that influenced all metal, and much of popular music, to follow.
Slayer at their best approximated eternal forms like classical music, but twisted and dark, music expressing the insanity of modern society.
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:06 pm
Well you know nothing about my taste in music and it's about as diverse as one's taste can get, but when you always are suggesting people like pop music and so forth, you are going to get remarks like you like Slayer. And lets not champion their music to be on the likes of classical music. From what I found that review comes from anus.com
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:42 pm
Marble why am I not surprised
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Subject: Re: Happy 70th John Lennon Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:59 pm
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